Again, here's how the Power Rankings voting will work:
* This thread will be open until Thursday, May 14th morning (pending participation)
* Voters are to rank the Top 20 cards for the BLACK group according to what they would take at Pack 1, Pick 1 (P1P1) in a regular draft. Partial lists will not be accepted.
* Please rank your cards from #1 through #20, with #1 being the card you would take over all the others.
* The VOTING thread is for posting your votes only. Small discussions about the voting, in particular pointing out errors in other voter's rankings and questions about the voting process, are allowed within reasonable length, but otherwise you should use the main CPR thread for discussions.
* Results will be posted in their own thread after this one is closed and all the votes are compiled.
* You can edit your vote freely, up until the moment the thread is closed.
Special note for this year's voting:Liliana, Heretical Healer is an unreleased card and should not be included in your rank.
Voting started earlier this year so it could be finished before Magic: Origins release. You can't include her in your votes. The same is true for other cards from the set that may be spoilered before the end of this project.
===
HOW TO VOTE ON SIMILAR CARDS
The following cards are considered to be equal. If you include them in your vote, they must be ranked as a single entry.
(no relevant examples I could find)
And the following cards, despite having very similar effects, are not considered equal and must be ranked at separated entries:
According to the rules at the main thread, the following cards are included in the BLACK voting group:
* Volrath's Stronghold, Cabal Coffers, Phyrexian Tower and any other land able to produce only black mana, or that produces colorless mana but has abilities that cost black mana (and no other color).
* Dismember, Vault Skirge and other "hybrid" black/colorless cards.
* Lashwrithe, Dross Golem, Cranial Plating and other colorless artifacts with abilities costing black mana or that requires you to control swamps, black permanents or play black spells.
CARDS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED ON THIS VOTING
Also according to the rules, the following cards are included in other voting groups and must not be voted here:
* Vivid Marsh and other lands able to produce 'mana of any color', even if their 'main' color is black. Their voting group is LANDS.
* Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Brutal Hordechief, Unburial Rites, Harbor Bandit and any other black card with abilities that cost mana of other colors or that require you to control lands of other basic types. Their voting group is GUILD or SHARD/WEDGE.
* Rakdos Cackler, Deathrite Shaman and other hybrids cards with other color. Their voting group is also GUILD or SHARD/WEDGE.
* Mox Jet, Leaden Myr and other colorless artifacts that produce black mana but have no ability costing blue mana or that requires you to control plains. Their voting group is COLORLESS.
===
PREVIOUS RANKINGS
For reference, here's the BLACK results for the previous three Power Rankings project. I'm including them here to be used as a reference only.
PLEASE NOTE! Since the last year's CPR, the following sets have been released:
* Conspiracy
* Magic 2015
* Commander 2014
* Khans of Tarkir
* Fate Reforged
* Dragons of Tarkir
I don't think we can vote on cards that haven't come out yet.
That's true.
Zetsu_Sensei, please edit your ranking to exclude Liliana, Heretical Healer (you can now include Pack Rat back ). Magic: Origins is still unreleased, and no spoilered cards from the set are to be voted this year.
1. Mind Twist
2. Recurring Nightmare
3. Demonic Tutor
4. Vampiric Tutor
5. Liliana of the Veil
6. Braids, Cabal Minion
7. Dark Confidant
8. Bitterblossom
9. Toxic Deluge
10. Thoughtseize
11. Smallpox
12. Pack Rats
13. Reanimate
14. Imperial Seal
15. Griselbrand
16. Grave Titan
17. Hymn to Tourach
18. Entomb
19. Ophiomancer
20. Damnation
Honorable mention: Dark Ritual, Dismember and Pox
Blacks ranking feels less about power compared to the other colours, but more about which archetype you want to draft. Do you prefer aggro, control, pox or reanimater? This will determine your evaluation a lot.
Pox might actually rank higher than 10th for me personally. I'm pretty sure I've taken it P1P1 when I shouldn't have. I just love that card so much. Mono Black for life, yo.
* This thread will be open until Thursday, May 14th morning (pending participation)
* Voters are to rank the Top 20 cards for the BLACK group according to what they would take at Pack 1, Pick 1 (P1P1) in a regular draft. Partial lists will not be accepted.
* Please rank your cards from #1 through #20, with #1 being the card you would take over all the others.
* The VOTING thread is for posting your votes only. Small discussions about the voting, in particular pointing out errors in other voter's rankings and questions about the voting process, are allowed within reasonable length, but otherwise you should use the main CPR thread for discussions.
* Results will be posted in their own thread after this one is closed and all the votes are compiled.
* You can edit your vote freely, up until the moment the thread is closed.
Special note for this year's voting: Liliana, Heretical Healer is an unreleased card and should not be included in your rank.
Voting started earlier this year so it could be finished before Magic: Origins release. You can't include her in your votes. The same is true for other cards from the set that may be spoilered before the end of this project.
===
HOW TO VOTE ON SIMILAR CARDS
The following cards are considered to be equal. If you include them in your vote, they must be ranked as a single entry.
(no relevant examples I could find)
And the following cards, despite having very similar effects, are not considered equal and must be ranked at separated entries:
* Imperial Seal x Vampiric Tutor
===
CARDS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THIS VOTING
According to the rules at the main thread, the following cards are included in the BLACK voting group:
* Volrath's Stronghold, Cabal Coffers, Phyrexian Tower and any other land able to produce only black mana, or that produces colorless mana but has abilities that cost black mana (and no other color).
* Dismember, Vault Skirge and other "hybrid" black/colorless cards.
* Lashwrithe, Dross Golem, Cranial Plating and other colorless artifacts with abilities costing black mana or that requires you to control swamps, black permanents or play black spells.
CARDS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED ON THIS VOTING
Also according to the rules, the following cards are included in other voting groups and must not be voted here:
* Vivid Marsh and other lands able to produce 'mana of any color', even if their 'main' color is black. Their voting group is LANDS.
* Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Brutal Hordechief, Unburial Rites, Harbor Bandit and any other black card with abilities that cost mana of other colors or that require you to control lands of other basic types. Their voting group is GUILD or SHARD/WEDGE.
* Rakdos Cackler, Deathrite Shaman and other hybrids cards with other color. Their voting group is also GUILD or SHARD/WEDGE.
* Mox Jet, Leaden Myr and other colorless artifacts that produce black mana but have no ability costing blue mana or that requires you to control plains. Their voting group is COLORLESS.
===
PREVIOUS RANKINGS
For reference, here's the BLACK results for the previous three Power Rankings project. I'm including them here to be used as a reference only.
2 Recurring Nightmare - 18.5
3 Demonic Tutor - 17.5
4 Vampiric Tutor - 16.3
5 Bitterblossom - 14.7
6 Damnation - 12.3
7 Yawgmoth's Will - 9.9
8 Dark Confidant - 9.5
9 Hymn to Tourach - 9.1
10 Phyrexian Arena - 8.3
11 Thoughtseize - 7.1
12 Yawgmoth's Bargain - 6.1
13 Liliana Vess - 5.2
14 Shriekmaw - 4.7
15 Profane Command - 4.5
16 Duress - 4.2
17 Kokusho, the Evening Star - 4.0
18 Dark Ritual - 3.8
19 Hypnotic Specter - 2.9
20 Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni - 2.8
20 Sinkhole - 2.8
20 Living Death - 2.8
2 Recurring Nightmare - 18.9
3 Demonic Tutor - 17.6
4 Bitterblossom - 16.0
5 Vampiric Tutor - 13.8
6 Damnation - 13.7
7 Dark Confidant - 11.5
8 Phyrexian Arena - 11.0
9 Hymn to Tourach - 10.4
10 Kokusho, the Evening Star - 8.2
11 Yawgmoth's Bargain - 6.3
12 Thoughtseize - 6.2
13 Shriekmaw - 6.0
14 Profane Command - 5.8
15 Yawgmoth's Will - 4.8
16 Sorin Markov - 4.7
17 Graveborn Muse - 4.4
18 Imperial Seal - 3.3
19 Barter in Blood - 3.0
20 Liliana Vess - 2.7
2 Recurring Nightmare - 18.1
3 Demonic Tutor - 17.6
4 Bitterblossom - 15.6
5 Liliana of the Veil - 14.7
6 Vampiric Tutor - 13.2
7 Dark Confidant - 12.6
8 Grave Titan - 10.9
9 Braids, Cabal Minion - 7.6
10 Thoughtseize - 7.2
11 Pack Rat - 6.8
12 Toxic Deluge - 6.6
13 Imperial Seal - 6.3
14 Hymn to Tourach - 6.2
14 Damnation - 6.2
16 Shriekmaw - 4.4
17 Volrath's Stronghold - 3.8
18 Phyrexian Arena - 3.4
19 Reanimate - 2.6
20 Ophiomancer - 2.5
PLEASE NOTE! Since the last year's CPR, the following sets have been released:
* Conspiracy
* Magic 2015
* Commander 2014
* Khans of Tarkir
* Fate Reforged
* Dragons of Tarkir
BLACK VOTING IS NOW OPEN!
2. Mind Twist
3. Pack Rat
4. Dark Confidant
5. Bitterblossom
6. Demonic Tutor
7. Liliana of the Veil
8. Volrath's Stronghold
9. Toxic Deluge
10. Thoughtseize
11. Vampiric Tutor
12. Reanimate
13. Animate Dead
14. Damnation
15. Shriekmaw
16. Braids, Cabal Minion
17. Imperial Seal
18. Ophiomancer
19. Phyrexian Arena
20. Grave Titan
1: Recurring Nightmare
2: Mind Twist
3: Liliana of the Veil
4: Pack Rat
5: Demonic Tutor
6: Bitterblossom
7: Volrath's Stronghold
8: Vampiric Tutor
9: Toxic Deludge
10: Dark Confidant
11: Damnation
12: Imperial seal
13: Hymn to Tourach
14: Reanimate
15: Animate dead
16: Braids, Cabal Minion
17: Shriekmaw
18: Dismember
19: Attrition
20: Phyrexian Arena
2. Recurring Nightmare
3. Demonic Tutor
4. Vampiric Tutor
5. Bitterblossom
6. Liliana of the Veil
7. Griselbrand
8. Grave Titan
9. Phyrexian Arena
10. Dismember
11. Hymn to Tourach
12. Damnation
13. Toxic Deluge
14. Animate Dead
15. Pack Rat
16. Dark Confidant
17. Shriekmaw
18. Fleshcarver
19. Braids
20. Thoughtseize
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02 Recurring Nightmare
03 Shriekmaw
04 Bitterblossom
05 Demonic Tutor
06 Liliana of the Veil
07 Grave Titan
08 Vampiric Tutor
09 Toxic Deluge
10 Damnation
11 Dark Confidant
12 Dismember
13 Ophiomancer
14 Pack Rat
15 Braids, Cabal Minion
16 Flesh Carver
17 Skinrender
18 Hero's Downfall
19 Hymn to Tourach
20 Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath
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02 Recurring Nightmare
03 Demonic Tutor
04 Bitterblossom
05 Vampiric Tutor
06 Liliana of the Veil
07 Dark Confidant
08 Imperial Seal
09 Braids, Cabal Minion
10 Grave Titan
11 Toxic Deluge
12 Thoughtseize
13 Damnation
14 Pack Rat
15 Volrath's Stronghold
16 Hymn to Tourach
17 Ophiomancer
18 Griselbrand
19 Entomb
20 Animate Dead
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2. Recurring Nightmare
3. Dark Confidant
4. Bitterblossom
5. Liliana of the Veil
6. Demonic Tutor
7. Toxic Deluge
8. Damnation
9. Braids, Cabal Minion
10.Thoughtsieze
11. Vampiric Tutor
12. Imperial Seal
13. Pack Rat
14. Shriekmaw
15. Dismember
16. Ophiomancer
17. Grave Titan
18. Hymn to Tourach
19. Griselbrand
20. Animate Dead
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1. Demonic Tutor
2. Vampiric Tutor
3. Imperial Seal
4. Dark Confidant
5. Recurring Nightmare
6. Mind Twist
7. Ophiomancer
8. Braids, Cabal Minion
9. Liliana of the Veil
10. Thoughtseize
11. Toxic Deluge
12. Grave Titan
13. Bitterblossom
14. Shriekmaw
15. Damnation
16. Skinrender
17. Yawgmoth's Will
18. Tendrils of Agony
19. Griselbrand
20. Pack Rat
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That's true.
Zetsu_Sensei, please edit your ranking to exclude Liliana, Heretical Healer (you can now include Pack Rat back ). Magic: Origins is still unreleased, and no spoilered cards from the set are to be voted this year.
It is acceptable. Your vote will be counted.
However, IMO, she will deserve a spot in the Top 20 as soon as she's offficially release.
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1 Recurring Nightmare
2 Demonic Tutor
3 Vampiric Tutor
4 Braids, Cabal Minion
5 Toxic Deluge
6 Damnation
7 Reanimate
8 Griselbrand
9 Volrath's Stronghold
10 Animate Dead
11 Mind Twist
12 Shriekmaw
13 Go for the Throat
14 Doom Blade
15 Bitterblossom
16 Massacre Wurm
17 Blood-Soaked Champion
18 Geth, Lord of the Vault
19 Pack Rat
20 Ophiomancer
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1. Mind Twist
2. Recurring Nightmare
3. Demonic Tutor
4. Vampiric Tutor
5. Liliana of the Veil
6. Braids, Cabal Minion
7. Dark Confidant
8. Bitterblossom
9. Toxic Deluge
10. Thoughtseize
11. Smallpox
12. Pack Rats
13. Reanimate
14. Imperial Seal
15. Griselbrand
16. Grave Titan
17. Hymn to Tourach
18. Entomb
19. Ophiomancer
20. Damnation
Honorable mention: Dark Ritual, Dismember and Pox
Blacks ranking feels less about power compared to the other colours, but more about which archetype you want to draft. Do you prefer aggro, control, pox or reanimater? This will determine your evaluation a lot.
I feel compelled to repeat everything I hear
02 Recurring Nightmare
03 Bitterblossom
04 Liliana of the Veil
05 Grave Titan
06 Demonic Tutor
07 Dark Confidant
08 Vampiric Tutor
09 Imperial Seal
10 Pox
11 Pack Rat
12 Thoughtseize
13 Braids, Cabal Minion
14 Toxic Deluge
15 Damnation
16 Hymn to Tourach
17 Necropotence
18 Volrath's Stronghold
19 Ophiomancer
20 Griselbrand
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1. Mind Twist
2. Recurring Nightmare
3. Demonic Tutor
4. Vampiric Tutor
5. Liliana of the Veil
6. Braids, Cabal Minion
7. Bitterblossom
8. Dark Confidant
9. Imperial Seal
10. Thoughtseize
11. Toxic Deluge
12. Grave Titan
13. Griselbrand
14. Pack Rats
15. Entomb
16. Living Death
17. Animate Dead
18. Reanimate
19. Ophiomancer
20. Damnation
2 Mind Twist
3 Recurring Nightmare
4 Vampiric Tutor
5 Liliana of the Veil
6 Braids, Cabal Minion
7 Imperial Seal
8 Pack Rat
9 Grave Titan
10 Shriekmaw
11 Bitterblossom
12 Nekrataal
13 Grisselbrand
14 Dark Confidant
15 Thoughtseize
16 Hymn to Tourach
17 Damnation
18 Phyrexian Aren
19 Reanimate
20 Dark Ritual
1. Mind Twist
2. Recurring Nightmare
3. Demonic Tutor
4. Vampiric Tutor
5. Liliana of the Veil
6. Griselbrand
7. Bitterblossom
8. Grave Titan
9. Animate Dead
10. Hymn to Tourach
11. Thoughseize
12. Dark Confidant
13. Flesh Carver
14. Ophiomancer
15. Reanimate
16. Hero's Downfall
17. Toxic Deluge
18. Damnation
19. Shriekmaw
20. Volrath's Stronghold
1. Recurring Nightmare
2. Mind Twist
3. Bitterblossom
4. Vampiric Tutor
5. Demonic Tutor
6. Shriekmaw
7. Grave Titan
8. Toxic Deluge
9. Ophiomancer
10. Dark Confidant
11. Braids, Cabal Minion
12. Volrath's Stronghold
13. Damnation
14. Dismember
15. Reanimate
16. Pack Rat
17. Necropotence
18. Bloodsoaked Champion
19. Hero's Downfall
20. Master of the Feast
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2 Recurring Nightmare
3 Demonic Tutor
4 Bitterblossom
5 Dark Confidant
6 Vampiric Turtor
7 Imperial Seal
8 Liliana of the Veil
9 Grave Titan
10 Toxic Deluge
11 Braids, Cabal Minion
12 Pack Rat
13 Reanimate
14 Enbomb
15 Damnation
16 Volrath's Stronghold
17 Animate Dead
18 Thoughtseize
19 Hymn to Tourach
20 Shriekmaw
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1. Mind Twist
2. Recurring Nightmare
3. Demonic Tutor
4. Vampiric Tutor
5. Liliana of the Veil
6. Bitterblossom
7. Dark Confidant
8. Toxic Deluge
9. Braids, Cabal Minion
10. Griselbrand
11. Grave Titan
12. Thoughtseize
13. Pack Rat
14. Shriekmaw
15. Damnation
16. Volrath's Stronghold
17. Reanimate
18. Living Death
19. Dismember
20. Ophiomancer
2. Recurring Nightmare
3. Demonic Tutor
4. Vampiric Tutor
5. Bitterblossom
6. Pack Rat
7. Liliana of the Veil
8. Booster Tutor
9. Toxic Deluge
10. Imperial Seal
11. Dark Confidant
12. Damnation
13. Grave Titan
14. Thoughtseize
15. Braids, Cabal Minion
16. Ophiomancer
17. Volrath's Stronghold
18. Hymn to Tourach
19. Griselbrand
20. Entomb
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9. Liliana of the Veil
10. Toxic Deluge
11. Profane Command
12. Damnation
13. Master of the Feast
14. Yawgmoth's Will
15. Braids, Cabal Minion
16. Hymn to Tourach
17. Ophiomancer
18. Volrath's Stronghold
19. Shriekmaw
20. Bloodsoaked Champion
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1. Recurring Nightmare
2. Mind Twist
3. Demonic Tutor
4. Bitterblossom
5. Liliana of the Veil
6. Vampiric Tutor
7. Grave Titan
8. Dark Confidant
9. Imperial Seal
10. Thoughtseize
11. Braids, Cabal Minion
12. Toxic Deulge
13. Damnation
14. Pack Rats
15. Reanimate
16. Animate Dead
17. Hymn to Tourach
18. Volrath's Stronghold
19. Ophiomancer
20. Shriekmaw