Again, here's how the Power Rankings voting will work:
* This thread will be open until Monday, May 18 morning (pending participation).
* Voters are to rank the Top 20 cards for the RED group according to what they would take at Pack 1, Pick 1 (P1P1) in a regular draft. Partial lists will not be accepted.
* Please rank your cards from #1 through #20, with #1 being the card you would take over all the others.
* The VOTING thread is for posting your votes only. Small discussions about the voting, in particular pointing out errors in other voter's rankings and questions about the voting process, are allowed within reasonable length, but otherwise you should use the main CPR thread for discussions.
* Results will be posted in their own thread after this one is closed and all the votes are compiled.
* You can edit your vote freely, up until the moment the thread is closed.
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HOW TO VOTE ON SIMILAR CARDS
The following cards are considered to be equal. If you include them in your vote, they must be ranked as a single entry.
Also according to the rules, the following cards are included in other voting groups and must not be voted here:
* Vivid Crag and other lands able to produce 'mana of any color', even if their 'main' color is red. Their voting group is LANDS.
* Ancient Grudge, Kird Ape, Orcish Lumberjack and any other red card with abilities that cost mana of other colors or that require you to control lands of other basic types. Their voting group is GUILD or SHARD/WEDGE.
* Rakdos Cackler, Boros Reckoner and other hybrids cards with other color. Their voting group is also GUILD or SHARD/WEDGE.
* Mox Ruby, Iron Myr and other colorless artifacts that produce red mana but has no ability costing red mana or that requires you to control mountains. Their voting group is COLORLESS.
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PREVIOUS RANKINGS
For reference, here's the RED results for the previous three Power Rankings project. I'm including them here to be used as a reference only.
PLEASE NOTE! Since the last year's CPR, the following sets have been released:
* Conspiracy
* Magic 2015
* Commander 2014
* Khans of Tarkir
* Fate Reforged
* Dragons of Tarkir
While my rankings for W, U and B stayed very similar to those from last year, my R ranking changed quite a bit. Not only because it got more new cards than the other three colors, but also because many of the older cards moved around a lot.
And unlike those other three colors, R has nearly no cards that are insane in all kinds of decks. It has cards that are insane in specific archetypes (in which case, your first pick clearly steers your draft into that specific direction) or merely good in several archetypes.
1 Sulfuric Vortex
2 Goblin Guide
3 Purphoros, God of the Forge
4 Koth of the Hammer
5 Daretti, Scrap Savant
6 Lightning bolt
7 Young Pyromancer
8 Wildfire
9 Burning of Xinje
10 Goblin Rabblemaster
11 Tempt with Vengeance
12 Zurgo Bellstriker
13 Sneak Attack
14 Chain Lightning
15 Magma Jet
16 Hero of Oxid Ridge
17 Inferno Titan
18 Thundermaw Hellkite
19 Guttersnipe
20 Bonfire of the Damned
This was different. Top 5 was pretty easy for me, but after that it became fluid. Red has a lot of great archetype cards (Wildfire, Guttersnipe, Sneak Attack, Zurgo,...) and a couple of high quality cards (Magma Jet, Thundermaw Hellkit, Chain Lightning). Which card you pick as P1P1 depends on your playing style and the mood of the day. Do yoo want go for token, midrange-control, aggro or spells matters? I can imagine that next year my vote may look completely different.
Also interesting is that we cut Wildfire a while ago, but I still seem to rank it pretty high. I have always liked the card, but the archetype was often not powerful enough.
With only 19 votes so far (while the others had 24 to 26 votes), I'll extend the Red Voting until tomorrow. Then I'll close this thread regardless of how many extra votes it gets.
* This thread will be open until Monday, May 18 morning (pending participation).
* Voters are to rank the Top 20 cards for the RED group according to what they would take at Pack 1, Pick 1 (P1P1) in a regular draft. Partial lists will not be accepted.
* Please rank your cards from #1 through #20, with #1 being the card you would take over all the others.
* The VOTING thread is for posting your votes only. Small discussions about the voting, in particular pointing out errors in other voter's rankings and questions about the voting process, are allowed within reasonable length, but otherwise you should use the main CPR thread for discussions.
* Results will be posted in their own thread after this one is closed and all the votes are compiled.
* You can edit your vote freely, up until the moment the thread is closed.
===
HOW TO VOTE ON SIMILAR CARDS
The following cards are considered to be equal. If you include them in your vote, they must be ranked as a single entry.
Flames of the Firebrand = Arc Lightning
Searing Spear = Lightning Strike
Reckless Reveler = Torch Fiend
And the following cards, despite having very similar effects, are not considered equal and must be ranked at separated entries:
Wildfire x Burning of Xinye
Earthquake x Rolling Earthquake
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CARDS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THIS VOTING
According to the rules at the main thread, the following cards are included in the BLACK voting group:
* Barbarian Ring, Teetering Peaks, Ghitu Encampment and any other land able to produce only red mana, or that produces colorless mana but has abilities that cost red mana (and no other color).
* Gut Shot, Moltensteel Dragon, Flame Javelin and other "hybrid" red/colorless cards.
* Shrine of Burning Rage, Bosh, Iron Golem, Gauntlet of Might and other colorless artifacts with abilities costing red mana or that requires you to control mountains, red permanents or play red spells.
CARDS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED ON THIS VOTING
Also according to the rules, the following cards are included in other voting groups and must not be voted here:
* Vivid Crag and other lands able to produce 'mana of any color', even if their 'main' color is red. Their voting group is LANDS.
* Ancient Grudge, Kird Ape, Orcish Lumberjack and any other red card with abilities that cost mana of other colors or that require you to control lands of other basic types. Their voting group is GUILD or SHARD/WEDGE.
* Rakdos Cackler, Boros Reckoner and other hybrids cards with other color. Their voting group is also GUILD or SHARD/WEDGE.
* Mox Ruby, Iron Myr and other colorless artifacts that produce red mana but has no ability costing red mana or that requires you to control mountains. Their voting group is COLORLESS.
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PREVIOUS RANKINGS
For reference, here's the RED results for the previous three Power Rankings project. I'm including them here to be used as a reference only.
2 Lightning Bolt - 16.7
3 Siege-Gang Commander - 14.5
4 Banefire - 13.2
5 Wheel of Fortune - 11.3
6 Grim Lavamancer - 8.7
7 Wildfire - 8.4 (Burning of Xinye)
8 Chandra Nalaar - 7.6
9 Sneak Attack - 7.5
10 Sulfuric Vortex - 7.1
11 Starstorm - 6.4
12 Avalanche Riders - 4.7
12 Rolling Earthquake - 4.7
14 Demonfire - 4.6
14 Firebolt - 4.6
16 Incinerate - 4.5
17 Blast From the Past - 4.4
18 Mogg Fanatic - 4.3
19 Chain Lightning - 3.9
20 Fireball - 3.6
2 Lightning Bolt - 16.7
3 Siege-Gang Commander - 14.8
4 Wheel of Fortune - 13.0
5 Banefire - 10.8
6 Sulfuric Vortex - 10.3
7 Grim Lavamancer - 9.9
8 Rolling Earthquake - 9.3
9 Wildfire - 9.1 (Burning of Xinye)
10 Chandra Nalaar - 9.0
11 Chain Lightning - 8.0
12 Starstorm - 7.5
12 Avalanche Riders - 7.5
14 Goblin Guide - 6.6
15 Crater Hellion - 6.3
16 Incinerate - 5.9
17 Fireball - 5.0
18 Earthquake - 4.3
19 Demonfire - 4.0
20 Comet Storm - 3.9
2 Goblin Guide - 16.5
3 Koth of the Hammer - 13.4
4 Wheel of Fortune - 12.4
5 Flametongue Kavu - 11.9
6 Lightning Bolt - 11.0
7 Wildifre - 10.7
8 Sneak Attack - 9.4
9 Burning of Xinye - 9.2
10 Inferno Titan - 8.6
11 Rolling Earthquake - 8.1
12 Siege-Gang Commander - 6.6
13 Thundermaw Hellkite - 6.3
14 Grim Lavamancer - 6.0
15 Hellrider - 5.6
16 Purphoros, God of the Forge - 4.6
16 Arc Trail - 4.6
18 Earthquake - 4.1
19 Chandra, Pyromaster - 3.3
20 Hero of Oxid Ridge - 2.9
PLEASE NOTE! Since the last year's CPR, the following sets have been released:
* Conspiracy
* Magic 2015
* Commander 2014
* Khans of Tarkir
* Fate Reforged
* Dragons of Tarkir
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14. Earthquake
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16. Flametongue Kavu
17. Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
18. Greater Gargadon
19. Zurgo Bellstriker
20. Purphoros, God of the Forge
02 Goblin Guide
03 Wildfire
04 Burning of Xinye
05 Wheel of Fortune
06 Koth of the Hammer
07 Sneak Attack
08 Rolling Earthquake
09 Goblin Rabblemaster
10 Inferno Titan
11 Earthquake
12 Greater Gargadon
13 Daretti, Scrap Savant
14 Young Pyromancer
15 Goblin Welder
16 Purphoros, God of the Forge
17 Flametongue Kavu
18 Siege-Gang Commander
19 Grim Lavamancer
20 Arc Trail
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14. Wildfire
15. Burning of Xinye
16. Purphoros, God of the Forge
17. Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
18. Thundermaw Hellkite
19. Greater Gargadon
20. Feldon of the Third Path
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4. Rolling Earthquake
5. Goblin Rabblemaster
6. Sneak Attack
7. Earthquake
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9. Arc Trail
10. Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
11. Young Pyromancer
12. Fire Imp
13. Chain Lightning
14. Char
15. Grim Lavamancer
16. Zurgo Bellstriker
17. Purphoros, God of the Forge
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3 Lightning Bolt
4 Wheel of Fortune
5 Flametongue Kavu
6 Hellrider
7 Wildfire
8 Burning of Xinye
9 Goblin Rabblemaster
10 Chandra, Pyromaster
11 Young Pyromancer
12 Kikki Jikki
13 Thundermaw Hellkite
14 Incinerate
15 Sneak Attack
16 Koth of the Hammer
17 Chain Lightning
18 Inferno Titan
19 Grim Lavamancer
20 Purpheros, God of the Forge
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2. Sneak Attack
3. Koth of the Hammer
4. Hellrider
5. Inferno Titan
6. Lightning Bolt
7. Wheel of Fortune
8. Goblin Guide
9. Splinter Twin
10. Flametongue Kavu
11. Young Pyromancer
12. Zealous Conscripts
13. Purphoros
14. Goblin Rabblemaster
15. Thundermaw Hellkite
16. Bonfire of the Damned
17. Shrine of Burning Rage
18. Zurgo Bellstriker
19. Anger of the Gods
20. Greater Gargadon
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6. Inferno Titan
7. Rabblemaster
8. Pyromancer
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11. Wildfire
12. Burning of Xinye
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13. Feldon of the Third Path
14. Purphoros, God of the Forge
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16. Hellrider
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19. Siege-Gang Commander
20. Lightning Bolt
02 Goblin Guide
03 Wildfire
04 Burning of Xinye
05 Koth of the Hammer
06 Rolling Earthquake
07 Goblin Rabblemaster
08 Hellrider
09 Inferno Titan
10 Wheel of Fortune
11 Earthquake
12 Young Pyromancer
13 Purphoros, God of the Forge
14 Sneak Attack
15 Flametongue Kavu
16 Siege-Gang Commander
17 Lightning Bolt
18 Arc Trail
19 Grim Lavamancer
20 Greater Gargadon
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02 Flametongue Kavu
03 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
04 Goblin Rabblemaster
05 Wildfire
06 Burning of Xinye
07 Goblin Guide
08 Inferno Titan
09 Koth of the Hammer
10 Lightning Bolt
11 Zurgo Bellstriker
12 Sneak Attack
13 Rolling Earthquake
14 Purphoros, God of the Forge
15 Siege-Gang Commander
16 Thundermaw Hellkite
17 Daretti, Scrap Savant
18 Zealous Conscripts
19 Goblin Welder
20 Earthquake
While my rankings for W, U and B stayed very similar to those from last year, my R ranking changed quite a bit. Not only because it got more new cards than the other three colors, but also because many of the older cards moved around a lot.
And unlike those other three colors, R has nearly no cards that are insane in all kinds of decks. It has cards that are insane in specific archetypes (in which case, your first pick clearly steers your draft into that specific direction) or merely good in several archetypes.
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2 Burning of Xinye
3 Sulfuric Vortex
4 Sneak Attack
5 Koth of the Hammer
6 Goblin Guide
7 Wheel of Fortune
8 Inferno Titan
9 Rolling Earthquake
10 Goblin Rabblemaster
11 Thundermaw Hellkite
12 Earthquake
13 Purphoros, God of the Forge
14 Siege-Gang Commander
15 Young Pyromancer
16 Daretti, Scrap Savant
17 Goblin Welder
18 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
19 Flametongue Kavu
20 Grim Lavamancer
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8 Wildfire
9 Burning of Xinje
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13 Sneak Attack
14 Chain Lightning
15 Magma Jet
16 Hero of Oxid Ridge
17 Inferno Titan
18 Thundermaw Hellkite
19 Guttersnipe
20 Bonfire of the Damned
This was different. Top 5 was pretty easy for me, but after that it became fluid. Red has a lot of great archetype cards (Wildfire, Guttersnipe, Sneak Attack, Zurgo,...) and a couple of high quality cards (Magma Jet, Thundermaw Hellkit, Chain Lightning). Which card you pick as P1P1 depends on your playing style and the mood of the day. Do yoo want go for token, midrange-control, aggro or spells matters? I can imagine that next year my vote may look completely different.
Also interesting is that we cut Wildfire a while ago, but I still seem to rank it pretty high. I have always liked the card, but the archetype was often not powerful enough.
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