When I entered the cube community this card was a staple. It got cut from a lot of cubes in the last years, probably because cubes got faster and less "dragon". If I look through my or other lists I see a lot of very fatties that are worth taking like Consecrated Sphinx, Griselbrand, Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Angel of Serenity ....
Will this card have a comeback any time soon?
Staple for us. A lot of times you can easily upgrade to a bigger beast. Or you can use bounce and abuse the hell out of it. Man o' War, Aether Adep, Boomerang-like spells, Jace, Crystal Shard, Erratic Portal.
Against some decks you will need to sideboard it out, but that can be said of a lot of cards (Bribary for example).
In our last draft I saw this card win multiple games with Crystal Shard and Man o' War.
we don't use sideboards and so cards like bribery and gilded drake can be pretty bad. even when you do, i'm not a huge fan of cubing with cards that can be bad against a good number of decks. drake gives your opponent such a strong threat you really need to be playing it late game and against aggro it's never useful. i think excluding it is a perfectly fine decision.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
I like Gilded Drake but it eventually got cut. I don't fault anyone for running it (hell, I may even re-add it in the future) but for us, it's out for now.
Gilded Drake is a sweet card, I haven't had it in my cube for a while though (it's getting altered but the guy is taking a long time :(). It's definitely one of my favorite cards because when you have a way to abuse it (mimic vat, waterfront bouncer, etc) it becomes so much fun and awesome. And that is my perfect cube card.
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I have become increasingly unimpressed with Bribery to the point that I almost might put Control Magic ahead of it. Gilded Drake is still going strong as one of my favorite control effects.
I have become increasingly unimpressed with Bribery to the point that I almost might put Control Magic ahead of it. Gilded Drake is still going strong as one of my favorite control effects.
control magic is hugely powerful. i can't believe it would be below bribery or gilded drake, both of which can be match-up dependent. control magic is amazing against any deck.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
I love Gilded Drake, when combined with the right cards it can be pretty crazy, and usually those cards aren't that hard to come by (at least in my own experience).
control magic is hugely powerful. i can't believe it would be below bribery or gilded drake, both of which can be match-up dependent. control magic is amazing against any deck.
I agree with this, I would put control magic at 3 behind Treachery and VShackles. Control Magic is so much better in the aggro match than sower is since they usually have an answer to a 2/2 but seldom an ansewr to enchantments
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I think it depends on your Cube metagame, with lots of aggro decks running around it is a bit too cute imho so I say it is fringe at 450. I am currently debating whether I want to cut it or not.
This card may not survive my next update. It's good, but it's not making the maindeck frequently anymore. And, given the proliferation of aggro dudes and tokens, it's been getting more difficult to get a good trade with it.
But then something supersick happens like getting it on a Mimic Vat or combining it with Squee and Waterfront Bouncer. I like the card but I'm not sure it's good enough anymore.
Certain cards really depend upon cube composition more than whether or not they fit into a particular cube size, and I believe Gilded Drake is one of those cards. If you have a high number of bounce and/or blink effects in your cube than Gilded Drake is an easy inclusion at 360+, if not than it's probably not going to be worth including just for the handful of times it can be a bomb.
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Readded Gilded Drake recently. Was pretty good in the last draft. Steal stuff. Got exiled with own Hostage Taker. Cast again. Steal another creature. Pretty awesome. What do you guys think of it in 2017 (in fact, almost 2018)?
It has always seemed great to me but it has been out of my price range, if I got one I would definitely give it a shot since 2 mana to perminantly steal a creature is really solid. Giving your opponent a 3/3 flyer is definitely a big drawback so it is terrible against agro, but there are a lot of creatures I will happily trade a 3/3 flyer for.
cubes have gotten a lot of great cards if gilded Drake and be pushed into 540 and greater. 😀 sad to see great cards go down but it also means that Wizards of the Coast has been good to this format over the last 10 years
When I entered the cube community this card was a staple. It got cut from a lot of cubes in the last years, probably because cubes got faster and less "dragon". If I look through my or other lists I see a lot of very fatties that are worth taking like Consecrated Sphinx, Griselbrand, Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Angel of Serenity ....
Will this card have a comeback any time soon?
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Against some decks you will need to sideboard it out, but that can be said of a lot of cards (Bribary for example).
In our last draft I saw this card win multiple games with Crystal Shard and Man o' War.
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I have become increasingly unimpressed with Bribery to the point that I almost might put Control Magic ahead of it. Gilded Drake is still going strong as one of my favorite control effects.
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Bribery is great against the Ramp/Natural Order/ Sneak Attack decks. Against most other decks its meh.
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I agree with this, I would put control magic at 3 behind Treachery and VShackles. Control Magic is so much better in the aggro match than sower is since they usually have an answer to a 2/2 but seldom an ansewr to enchantments
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But then something supersick happens like getting it on a Mimic Vat or combining it with Squee and Waterfront Bouncer. I like the card but I'm not sure it's good enough anymore.
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