I like Absorb better than Venser. But I like nearly everything better than Venser.
I don't see this card making any regular cubes, but it should be a great combo cube card. Absorb is usually better for an identical cost and most 450-or-less cubes don't run that any more.
I used to not like Venser but not anymore. He's nuts: great +2 that is only going to be better, the 2nd ability is underrated, and the ultimate is pretty hard to win through. Whats not to like?
I don't like him because he's a five mana investment that only does something worthwhile when already-decent cards are in play, and actually does nothing on an empty board (or after a sweeper). I love blink decks. I love aggressive U/W decks. I actually tried him three separate times in my cube, at three different sizes, before figuring out that he was just not good enough. The second ability is quite good, though. Restoration Angel is the acceptable face of blink, for us; Venser is not.
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He can't possibly be real. The design is bland and he's a better than four power unblockable with huge upside. You don't get that for three mana. He'd still be amazing at four.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
Word. It's pretty nuts. I can't believe they'd let you have 4 unblockable damage for three mana. Of course, with the power creep of creatures recently, I guess I wouldn't be too surprised.
It's not strictly better than Scroll Thief either, but it's much better than both Finkel and the latter card. I will sure run it if it's real, but I'm not hopeful. I just think it's too obviously strong. Geist was more subtly strong and was probably a mistake.
Compared to Geist, I don't think it's unprintable. It's not even strictly better than Finkel, and that card's really old.
It's not strictly better since they're different colors so Finkel is of course better in a UB deck than the UR guy would be. But it is definitely overall better, since you're always getting in, you're always getting in for more damage even if you draw a card, and can end a game quick if you decide to hit for 4.
I understand that. But it survives a greater suite of removal (quite a bit more, actually), and it resolves as a better blocker the turn it comes down. Plus, he's not legendary (albeit that doesn't matter much in the cube).
I think it's a great card, but I don't think it's so unprintable that it has to be fake. I think it is, but I wouldn't be surprised if Wizards considered it "printable" by today's standards for a pushed legendary gold creature.
I understand that. But it survives a greater suite of removal (quite a bit more, actually), and it resolves as a better blocker the turn it comes down. Plus, he's not legendary (albeit that doesn't matter much in the cube).
I think it's a great card, but I don't think it's so unprintable that it has to be fake. I think it is, but I wouldn't be surprised if Wizards considered it "printable" by today's standards for a pushed legendary gold creature.
For sure. It still dies to a solid amount of removal, but yeah, it's probably fake unfortunately. I don't think this is really a blocking creature though--seems more at home in UR tempo/aggressive builds and the like.
No doubt. I don't include Finkel to block either. But it's nice to be able to hold their 2/1s off or a turn, or prevent 2 damage from an attacking 2/2 the turn it resolves. Blanking one combat step before turning him sideways for CA is a nice added benefit.
I think the card is fake. Not because of it's power-level, but because the poster has a history of delivering fake cards and it doesn't come from a reliable source site either.
I think cheap cost Legendary Gold creature would need to tend to be weaker now that Commander's in wizard eyes when they're designing card. 3 for 2/2 unblockable damage with fire/ice auto attached is rather nuts. I think it'll be mythic if it see prints.
Calling Melek fake from the source. Also, I'd expect the new champions have some interaction with the guilds' mechanics, however subtly. Ruric at the very least carries bloodrush well. The real melek I'd expect to derive some benefit from an overloaded effect, although I am uncertain how wizards will accomplish this (maybe an overload-snapcaster style effect).
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
The phrase "strictly" means a lot of different things to different people, but by all accounts this card isn't strictly better than finkel.
However, it is better than finkel by a pretty huge margin. I don't think it's unprintable and haven't really got an opinion on whether it's real or not. It's really, really good, for sure. What I don't understand is that the people in the rumour mill thread are saying that it's underpowered. What?
EDIT: yep, fake. Unsurprising but a bit of a shame.
I don't see this card making any regular cubes, but it should be a great combo cube card. Absorb is usually better for an identical cost and most 450-or-less cubes don't run that any more.
Also, it's weird to get yet another U/W BaB promo. Celestial Colonnade and Supreme Verdict were already printed as BaB promos.
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Word. It's pretty nuts. I can't believe they'd let you have 4 unblockable damage for three mana. Of course, with the power creep of creatures recently, I guess I wouldn't be too surprised.
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It's not strictly better since they're different colors so Finkel is of course better in a UB deck than the UR guy would be. But it is definitely overall better, since you're always getting in, you're always getting in for more damage even if you draw a card, and can end a game quick if you decide to hit for 4.
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I understand that. But it survives a greater suite of removal (quite a bit more, actually), and it resolves as a better blocker the turn it comes down. Plus, he's not legendary (albeit that doesn't matter much in the cube).
I think it's a great card, but I don't think it's so unprintable that it has to be fake. I think it is, but I wouldn't be surprised if Wizards considered it "printable" by today's standards for a pushed legendary gold creature.
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For sure. It still dies to a solid amount of removal, but yeah, it's probably fake unfortunately. I don't think this is really a blocking creature though--seems more at home in UR tempo/aggressive builds and the like.
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That's not how the phrase strictly better works. It's not strictly better because Finkel has a higher toughness and isn't legendary.
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However, it is better than finkel by a pretty huge margin. I don't think it's unprintable and haven't really got an opinion on whether it's real or not. It's really, really good, for sure. What I don't understand is that the people in the rumour mill thread are saying that it's underpowered. What?
EDIT: yep, fake. Unsurprising but a bit of a shame.
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Someone even suggested that it needed haste to be "on par" with Ruric Thar; I just about spit my coffee out.
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