Vaultbreaker3R
Creature - Orc Rogue (U)
Whenever ~ attacks, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card.
Dash 2R
4/2
Thoughts? I like that he hits for 4 turn three and can cycle needless land or outclassed creatures, searching for that game winning burn spell. This is a creature I'd likely dash more than cast.
I think everyone would play a sorcery that hit players for 4 and looted and returned to your hand. Albeit this is worse since it can be chumped, I think if you can get in with one hit, any after that is gravy.
Well, it makes Viashino Sandstalker look pretty silly, that's for sure. I liked it when it was first spoiled, but I think the fact that it trades with so much in combat will ultimately hurt it. The Goblin Heelcutter might actually be a stronger spell because the ability works better with the Dash drawback and it can push additional damage through by disrupting blocking.
I too am uncertain whether Goblin Heelcutter or Vaultbreaker is a better dash spell. Heelcutter is certainly better for pushing damage through and forcing your opponent into awkward blocks, but Vaultbreaker is much more powerful in a vacuum.
I think they're both just barely on the outside looking in for me. Red's 3 drops have gotten quite strong as of late... maybe a year or two ago these would have made the cut.
I'm always looking for more discard outlets to help reanimator, and this helps keep aggro decks in gas while applying pressure. I'm not sure if I like this better than Goblin Heelcutter or not, so I'd like to test both. I could see putting Fire Imp on the bench for a bit to try this card, or maybe Firestorm which has been in the bottom 10 of my cube for a really long time.
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I think Fire Imp is insane. 3 mana for a baby flametouge kavu ping 2 damage is awesome. It's no where near chopping block in my 360, even with my dislike of old border card and portal format. Certainly much better than this card.
You're probably right, I honestly can't think of a red 3-drop I'd rather get rid of unless Feldon doesn't work out. Firestorm is probably a better cut. Vaultbreaker can kind of replace it as a discard outlet (albeit a slower one) and Firestorm just hasn't been getting drafted.
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I think Fire Imp is insane. 3 mana for a baby flametouge kavu ping 2 damage is awesome. It's no where near chopping block in my 360, even with my dislike of old border card and portal format. Certainly much better than this card.
I cut Fire Imp from my 360. It's not a may ability, which hurts it a lot.
That being said, Fire Imp is much better than any of the guys being discussed in this thread I think.
I think Fire Imp is insane. 3 mana for a baby flametouge kavu ping 2 damage is awesome. It's no where near chopping block in my 360, even with my dislike of old border card and portal format. Certainly much better than this card.
I cut Fire Imp from my 360. It's not a may ability, which hurts it a lot.
That being said, Fire Imp is much better than any of the guys being discussed in this thread I think.
Even despite the may 2 damage is still decent unless on empty board. But if you tried it and don't like it, that's too bad, but let's just stick with agree to disagree. It's probably staying in my cube for at least another year though.
I think I'm gong to test this guy out. I've been looking for more discard outlets in red to support reanimator and this guy fills that role while attacking for 4 and drawing a card. Seems good.
I think I'm gong to test this guy out. I've been looking for more discard outlets in red to support reanimator and this guy fills that role while attacking for 4 and drawing a card. Seems good.
If you are primarily looking for another reanimation enabler, I think Gathan Raiders are a better option than Vaultbreaker.
I think I'm gong to test this guy out. I've been looking for more discard outlets in red to support reanimator and this guy fills that role while attacking for 4 and drawing a card. Seems good.
If you are primarily looking for another reanimation enabler, I think Gathan Raiders are a better option than Vaultbreaker.
Thanks for the recommendation but i don't run morph cards in my cube. I also think having a looter effect stapled to a hasted 4 power creature could be a good card in general, though probably best in reanimator decks. I think during testing I'll keep in mind the heelcutter and see which one i would rather have in that spot, if either.
Creature - Orc Rogue (U)
Whenever ~ attacks, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card.
Dash 2R
4/2
Thoughts? I like that he hits for 4 turn three and can cycle needless land or outclassed creatures, searching for that game winning burn spell. This is a creature I'd likely dash more than cast.
I think everyone would play a sorcery that hit players for 4 and looted and returned to your hand. Albeit this is worse since it can be chumped, I think if you can get in with one hit, any after that is gravy.
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I think they're both just barely on the outside looking in for me. Red's 3 drops have gotten quite strong as of late... maybe a year or two ago these would have made the cut.
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I cut Fire Imp from my 360. It's not a may ability, which hurts it a lot.
That being said, Fire Imp is much better than any of the guys being discussed in this thread I think.
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Even despite the may 2 damage is still decent unless on empty board. But if you tried it and don't like it, that's too bad, but let's just stick with agree to disagree. It's probably staying in my cube for at least another year though.
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Thanks for the recommendation but i don't run morph cards in my cube. I also think having a looter effect stapled to a hasted 4 power creature could be a good card in general, though probably best in reanimator decks. I think during testing I'll keep in mind the heelcutter and see which one i would rather have in that spot, if either.
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True. Vaultbreaker has been fine in my C/Ube, though.
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