Could people critique cards and not others' card evaluation skills [...]
Ya, my bad. Sorry dschumm. I wasn't trying to attack you or anything ...it's just the third time Menagerie has been brought up as an example to explain why this mythic MDFC is bad, and it's frustrating because I think that's completely missing the boat. It looks at one small part ...of one effect ...of half of the card, and tries to use its existence as precedence to tear this card down. When in reality, that card is not only worse than the spell half of this card, but fails to contain THE one important factor that makes it good! It's like saying Stoneforge Mystic is a terrible Magic card because nobody's interested in Squire, and failing to even mention the equipment tutoring bit. It just fails to do the evaluation justice, and people can't get a clear and complete picture of what to expect when those kinds of comparisons are drawn. Anyways dschumm, I hope it didn't bother you.
In terms of ranking the mythic MDFCs, my initial take is this:
- Red above all else since it's the most flexible. Any deck playing red as a primary color should maindeck this, period.
- Green / White / Black are pretty equal, IMO. The white one has the best overall effect, the green one benefits from green's natural ability to ramp, and the black one is scalable.
- Blue one the worst of the bunch, IMO.
I would rank them Green = Black > Red > White >> Blue
I think the Green and Black spells are actively good in their respective colors and fit my cubes' themes very well. The Red ones best attribute is that it's an extremely flexible card that can be played basically at any point in the game. The White land is still excellent and had a solid "close the game" effect but I think it will be played as a land more often than not. I'm not a fan of the blue one because it needs too much set up, too much mana and it's sorcery speed.
This one does seem good, might even crack the tightest lists (360). Would def play at 450+.
I wish they didn't have to be different mana costs but I guess that would be OP.
Ya, my bad. Sorry dschumm. I wasn't trying to attack you or anything ...it's just the third time Menagerie has been brought up as an example to explain why this mythic MDFC is bad, and it's frustrating because I think that's completely missing the boat. It looks at one small part ...of one effect ...of half of the card, and tries to use its existence as precedence to tear this card down. When in reality, that card is not only worse than the spell half of this card, but fails to contain THE one important factor that makes it good! It's like saying Stoneforge Mystic is a terrible Magic card because nobody's interested in Squire, and failing to even mention the equipment tutoring bit. It just fails to do the evaluation justice, and people can't get a clear and complete picture of what to expect when those kinds of comparisons are drawn. Anyways dschumm, I hope it didn't bother you.
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I think the Green and Black spells are actively good in their respective colors and fit my cubes' themes very well. The Red ones best attribute is that it's an extremely flexible card that can be played basically at any point in the game. The White land is still excellent and had a solid "close the game" effect but I think it will be played as a land more often than not. I'm not a fan of the blue one because it needs too much set up, too much mana and it's sorcery speed.
I wish they didn't have to be different mana costs but I guess that would be OP.
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it's about time blue is actually bad at something in a cube (and even then, it isn't a terrible card).
I think this card is great. Instead of worrying about cuts, I think this set is going to push me to up the count on my cube.
I think the red, green, and black ones are all fantastic. The white one is a bit behind, but still great, and the blue one is a ways behind that.
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