Blue is tough, but if you can swing it, try to get your hands on Treachery. You may find Thieving Magpie isn't cutting it among the other 4-drops. Other good things to consider are Repeal, Memory Lapse, Gilded Drake, Willbender.
I've been meaning to get them in, I just keep forgetting. Thieving Magpie was noted as next on the chopping block. I do think I have a Willbender lying around... yes I do.
I'll keep an eye out for Treachery and Tangle Wire to see if they're cheap at my lgs.
G/x aggro has become prevalent in drafts as of late. I'd like to push it further into competitive archetypes so I'm looking at Rootwalla.
Changes Now (in hand) OUT--------------->IN
Desolation Angel----> Lingering Souls
Cinder Pyromancer--> Fireball
Archon of Justice---> Soltari Priest
Thieving Magpie----> Willbender
Ravenous Baloth----> Basking Rootwalla
OUT-----------------> IN
Cloudthresher--------> Tarmogoyf
Blastoderm-----------> Life from the Loam
Mirri the Cursed------> Grave Titan
Sunlance------------> Enlightened Tutor
Keldon Champion-----> Hero of Oxid Ridge
Although I'll be sad to see Champion-on-a-Vat go, ah good times.
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I'd rather lose Kodama, awakening zone, overrun, or mold shambler before blastoderm.
Wow, I completely missed that Awakening Zone was still in here. I love the I win now feel of Overrun. It's an iconic limited finisher and I'll be keeping it for now at least. Blastoderm gets played so little compared to Shambler that I couldn't see taking it out. I guess with Vorapede in now I could part with Kodama. I do notice the 4-drops in green are thinned a little. I guess I could make that switch fairly painlessly.
OUT-----------------------> IN
Kodama of the North Tree---> Blastoderm
Awakening Zone------------> Scavenging Ooze
This cube list is getting really competitive, really fast. The last 2 weeks of multiple updates are all very strong changes. Nice work man.
Thank you. I've been cubing a lot more recently, as I'm introducing some more people to the wonderful world of cube, they all want to play it every day. Also freetime to peruse through hidden away stores and a lot of spare cash don't hurt (recently got a couple bonuses). I don't ever see myself being able to afford the P8, but I'm still hoping for a Timetwister some day.
Save up for some CE stuff. Totally worth it for the cube, and not much more expensive than modern chase mythics are.
Just found a set of P9 for $650. I guess you're right. The duals from CE are, however, not worth it. I might as well spend another $10 for the real thing.
A lot of some sort of american burger perhaps? Or Jace 3, Garruk 2, SoFaF, SoLaS, and Vindicate?
Feast and Famine is on its way in soon. I'm trading very aggressively for things like Vindicate, Bitterblossom, Jitte, SoLaS, etc. Jace 3 is dropping in price by the day, if it gets reprinted it'll be almost nothing. Garruk 2 the same.
So, that leaves the burgers...
I look at it as an investment. Should I ever have to part with the cards (just the thought makes me shudder), which would be worth more? Revised or CE? That's why I'd written off the P9 and duals. I might be able to swing the duals and maybe that P9 CE set. But I'd definitely want the duals to be black bordered.
I prefer CE for the duals, but that's because I cube exclusively. I'd rather save the extra money and spend it on more awesome cube stuff. And they're a lot less (more than just $10 each). The underground sea alone will save you about $60-$70 vs a revised one ($55-ish vs $125-ish), and it'll be black-bordered. It's probably about $250 cheaper to buy all CE duals than Revised duals, and that's a lot of cheddar.
A complete set of CE gives you pretty damn pimp versions of a ton of cube cards. All 10 Duals and the P9 for a start, but there's 45+ cards from Beta in the cube, and you get very nice-looking versions of all of them in a complete CE set. If you're looking to buy the P9 and all the duals, you may just want to spend the extra cash on a full set. Just my $0.02.
I prefer CE for the duals, but that's because I cube exclusively. I'd rather save the extra money and spend it on more awesome cube stuff. And they're a lot less (more than just $10 each). The underground sea alone will save you about $60-$70 vs a revised one ($55-ish vs $125-ish), and it'll be black-bordered. It's probably about $250 cheaper to buy all CE duals than Revised duals, and that's a lot of cheddar.
A complete set of CE gives you pretty damn pimp versions of a ton of cube cards. All 10 Duals and the P9 for a start, but there's 45+ cards from Beta in the cube, and you get very nice-looking versions of all of them in a complete CE set. If you're looking to buy the P9 and all the duals, you may just want to spend the extra cash on a full set. Just my $0.02.
+1
Since I'm not including power I've started the task of rounding up the individual cards I am using but once power gets involved you're probably better off with a full set to get all the duals (which look much better and are cheaper in CE).
Feast and Famine is on its way in soon. I'm trading very aggressively for things like Vindicate, Bitterblossom, Jitte, SoLaS, etc. Jace 3 is dropping in price by the day, if it gets reprinted it'll be almost nothing. Garruk 2 the same.
So, that leaves the burgers...
I look at it as an investment. Should I ever have to part with the cards (just the thought makes me shudder), which would be worth more? Revised or CE? That's why I'd written off the P9 and duals. I might be able to swing the duals and maybe that P9 CE set. But I'd definitely want the duals to be black bordered.
Get the CE versions of duals and power, they are black bordered, cheap, and people are less likely to steal them (if that's a concern). It really feels like they are beta cards when you look at them, they are the perfect thing for cube, it's almost like WOTC knew all those years ago
Also, mana vault, ankh, winter orb, ice storm, control magic etc. Those are extremely cheap to get CE versions of instead of beta or their ugly white bordered compatriots
CE cards are also slowly rising in value due to the casual EDH crowd buying them up, so they might be worth 20 bucks more each later down the road if you're looking at it as an investment!
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I'm not a big stickler when it comes to white border vs black border. While I do prefer black, it's never a deal-breaker for me. I plan on getting a Savannah Lions altered and I don't think I'm gonna drop 70 on a beta version.
Unless of course I get the full CE set. (~$1,700 btw)
And who knows, maybe in 2 years Cube will be well known enough for these to fetch higher prices too.
I got my complete set of CE when I built my classic cube. It was under $700 at the time. I'd say it's safe to assume the value of CE will continue to rise.
I wonder if it's cheaper to get CE duals or just get my revised ones altered. The white borders bother me a bit. CE duals (and some other cards) have gone up in price with the popularity of EDH. Those players have gotten hip to the fact that CE is the cheapest way to get black-bordered duals.
I wish the old art for Savannah Lions was available as a foil. The most recent art on the Lions is pretty bad.
It depends who you get them altered by. wtwlf is far more of an expert than I on pricing for alters but the one I did was around $45 for original art after shipping which is around the price of a CE dual.
Probably a better cut. These were quick cuts because we didn't have much time and i wanted to get them in there to play.
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Definitely agreed.
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Also, I'm finally gonna get to draft with 6 people tomorrow (last draft this big was ~6 months ago).
I'm gonna pick up a couple cheap additions that I realized I'm missing before the event.
Is there anything else anyone would recommend that I'm missing? Stuff on the cheap (=<$3) as I just unloaded for FoW and what not.
Also, recommended cuts are welcome.
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Archon of Justice --> Another 2-drop, like Loyal Cathar, or some Soltari guys. These are noticably missing (though the WW may be tough and may warrant a more splashable card).
Vendetta --> Necromancy
Cinder Pyromancer --> Searing Blaze
Ravenous Baloth --> Wall of Roots
Brittle Effigy --> Tangle Wire
Blue is tough, but if you can swing it, try to get your hands on Treachery. You may find Thieving Magpie isn't cutting it among the other 4-drops. Other good things to consider are Repeal, Memory Lapse, Gilded Drake, Willbender.
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Seconded!
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I'll keep an eye out for Treachery and Tangle Wire to see if they're cheap at my lgs.
G/x aggro has become prevalent in drafts as of late. I'd like to push it further into competitive archetypes so I'm looking at Rootwalla.
Changes Now (in hand)
OUT--------------->IN
Desolation Angel----> Lingering Souls
Cinder Pyromancer--> Fireball
Archon of Justice---> Soltari Priest
Thieving Magpie----> Willbender
Ravenous Baloth----> Basking Rootwalla
Possible Changes Tomorrow
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage---> Squee, Goblin Nabob
Skyhunter Skirmisher------> Fiend Hunter
Sunlance-----------------> Soltari Champion
Mystic Crusader----------> Mirror Entity
Timely Reinforcements----> Soltari Monk
Cloudthresher-------------> Wall of Roots or Wall of Blossoms
EDIT:Vendetta-----------> Necromancy
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- 1 Hero of Oxid Ridge
- 1 Enlightened Tutor
- 1 Life from the Loam
- 1 Grave Titan
- 1 TARMOGOYF
!What to cut, what to cut...
Also, 2 more shocks. 6 down, 4 to go...
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Sunblast Angel or Timely Reinforcements
Abyssal Persecutor or Mirri the Cursed
Keldon Champion
Cloudthresher and Kodama of the North Tree
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OUT-----------------> IN
Cloudthresher--------> Tarmogoyf
Blastoderm-----------> Life from the Loam
Mirri the Cursed------> Grave Titan
Sunlance------------> Enlightened Tutor
Keldon Champion-----> Hero of Oxid Ridge
Although I'll be sad to see Champion-on-a-Vat go, ah good times.
Sunblast Angel & Timely Reinforcements will be coming out for Soltaris tomorrow, assuming they have them.
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Wow, I completely missed that Awakening Zone was still in here. I love the I win now feel of Overrun. It's an iconic limited finisher and I'll be keeping it for now at least. Blastoderm gets played so little compared to Shambler that I couldn't see taking it out. I guess with Vorapede in now I could part with Kodama. I do notice the 4-drops in green are thinned a little. I guess I could make that switch fairly painlessly.
OUT-----------------------> IN
Kodama of the North Tree---> Blastoderm
Awakening Zone------------> Scavenging Ooze
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Also, picking up more stuff today.
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Just found a set of P9 for $650. I guess you're right. The duals from CE are, however, not worth it. I might as well spend another $10 for the real thing.
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Feast and Famine is on its way in soon. I'm trading very aggressively for things like Vindicate, Bitterblossom, Jitte, SoLaS, etc. Jace 3 is dropping in price by the day, if it gets reprinted it'll be almost nothing. Garruk 2 the same.
So, that leaves the burgers...
I look at it as an investment. Should I ever have to part with the cards (just the thought makes me shudder), which would be worth more? Revised or CE? That's why I'd written off the P9 and duals. I might be able to swing the duals and maybe that P9 CE set. But I'd definitely want the duals to be black bordered.
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A complete set of CE gives you pretty damn pimp versions of a ton of cube cards. All 10 Duals and the P9 for a start, but there's 45+ cards from Beta in the cube, and you get very nice-looking versions of all of them in a complete CE set. If you're looking to buy the P9 and all the duals, you may just want to spend the extra cash on a full set. Just my $0.02.
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+1
Since I'm not including power I've started the task of rounding up the individual cards I am using but once power gets involved you're probably better off with a full set to get all the duals (which look much better and are cheaper in CE).
$250 is a bigger difference than $100
And who knows, maybe in 2 years Cube will be well known enough for these to fetch higher prices too.
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Get the CE versions of duals and power, they are black bordered, cheap, and people are less likely to steal them (if that's a concern). It really feels like they are beta cards when you look at them, they are the perfect thing for cube, it's almost like WOTC knew all those years ago
Also, mana vault, ankh, winter orb, ice storm, control magic etc. Those are extremely cheap to get CE versions of instead of beta or their ugly white bordered compatriots
CE cards are also slowly rising in value due to the casual EDH crowd buying them up, so they might be worth 20 bucks more each later down the road if you're looking at it as an investment!
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Unless of course I get the full CE set. (~$1,700 btw)
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I got my complete set of CE when I built my classic cube. It was under $700 at the time. I'd say it's safe to assume the value of CE will continue to rise.
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I wish the old art for Savannah Lions was available as a foil. The most recent art on the Lions is pretty bad.
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