Update
Lands: No Change.
Colorless: No Change.
White: Recruiter of the Guard.
Blue: No Change.
Black: No Change.
Red: No Change.
Green: No Change.
Multi: No Change.
Recruiter is sweet, no other conspiracy additions?
Over time, other cards from CON2 may prove worthy and find there way into the cube; Recruiter is the guarantee inclusion. I'm interested in hearing from other cube players about card evaluation/inclusions.
I don't think you run enough guild lands. I'd add one more to each guild, cutting the weakest card from each. I'd use the manlands for all but Selesnya, which should get Horizon Canopy, but you can mix and match as you feel.
With Sneak Attack, Eureka, and Tooth & Nail, Gruul needs Dragonlord Atarka over Firespout or Solifuge.
I don't think you run enough guild lands. I'd add one more to each guild, cutting the weakest card from each. I'd use the manlands for all but Selesnya, which should get Horizon Canopy, but you can mix and match as you feel.
Just like the low planeswalker count, this is purposely done. I removed the signets long ago and keep a lower mana fixing to reward/not reward players.
Interestingly enough, I was having a similar discussion with a friend; he favored Reflector Mage, I was favoring Fractured Identity. Guess I should accommodate both, probably cut the guildmage and sphere.
Is Collective Brutality a consideration? It's an interactive discard outlet that might be a little more interactive than Putrid Imp or Oona's Prowler. Those do attack and block but I've seen them mostly as discard outlets. Collective Brutality gives you a little more game against control and aggro while also being a discard outlet. Additionally, it has uses in other decks besides reanimator.
Oona's Prowler should be seeing play in aggro decks as well as graveyard decks. I wouldn't cut that. Brutality is decent, but I don't run it at 450 cards.
Oona's Prowler should be seeing play in aggro decks as well as graveyard decks. I wouldn't cut that. Brutality is decent, but I don't run it at 450 cards.
Feel the same way.
What are thoughts on Cast Down? Can it find room w/o removing Go for the Throat? i.e. I don't want to remove Go for the Throat...
- Cube Size: 450 Cards
- Breakdown: 40 Land, 60 Colorless, 60 per W/U/B/R/G, 50 Multi-Color
Card Selection1 Bayou
1 Plateau
1 Savannah
1 Scrubland
1 Taiga
1 Tropical Island
1 Tundra
1 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Blood Crypt
1 Breeding Pool
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
1 Watery Grave
1 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Arid Mesa
1 Marsh Flats
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Ancient Tomb
1 City of Brass
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Maze of Ith
1 Mishra's Factory
1 Mutavault
1 Prismatic Vista
1 Rishadan Port
1 Strip Mine
1 Wasteland
1 Black Lotus
1 Everflowing Chalice
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Diamond
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Grim Monolith
1 Mind Stone
1 Talisman of Conviction
1 Talisman of Creativity
1 Talisman of Curiosity
1 Talisman of Hierarchy
1 Talisman of Resilience
1 Coalition Relic
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Hangarback Walker
1 Walking Ballista
1 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Metalworker
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Reality Smasher
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Myr Battlesphere
1 Sundering Titan
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Emrakul, the Promised End
//Equipment
1 Bonesplitter
1 Skullclamp
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Grafted Wargear
1 Sword of Body and Mind
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Sword of War and Peace
1 Batterskull
1 Cursed Scroll
1 Pithing Needle
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Ratchet Bomb
1 Scroll Rack
1 Sorcerous Spyglass
1 Winter Orb
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mimic Vat
1 Tangle Wire
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Smokestack
1 Memory Jar
//Vehicle
1 Smuggler's Copter
//Planeswalker
1 Karn, Scion of Urza
1 Karn Liberated
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Dauntless Bodyguard
1 Dragon Hunter
1 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
1 Kytheon, Hero of Akros
1 Mardu Woe-Reaper
1 Mother of Runes
1 Skymarcher Aspirant
1 Soldier of the Pantheon
1 Student of Warfare
1 Accorder Paladin
1 Adorned Pouncer
1 Imposing Sovereign
1 Kor Skyfisher
1 Lone Missionary
1 Remorseful Cleric
1 Selfless Spirit
1 Spirit of the Labyrinth
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Wall of Omens
1 Blade Splicer
1 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
1 Flickerwisp
1 Monastery Mentor
1 Porcelain Legionnaire
1 Recruiter of the Guard
1 Soltari Champion
1 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
1 Gisela, the Broken Blade
1 Hero of Bladehold
1 Palace Jailer
1 Restoration Angel
1 Angel of Invention
1 Archangel Avacyn
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Lyra Dawnbringer
1 Reveillark
1 Exalted Angel
1 Sun Titan
//Enchantment
1 Land Tax
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Spear of Heliod
1 Cast Out
1 Moat
//Instant
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Mana Tithe
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Disenchant
//Sorcery
1 Balance
1 Council's Judgment
1 Spectral Procession
1 Armageddon
1 Day of Judgment
1 Ravages of War
1 Wrath of God
1 Decree of Justice
//Planeswalker
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Crystal Shard
1 Vedalken Shackles
//Creature
1 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
1 Looter il-Kor
1 Phantasmal Image
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 Spellskite
1 Thing in the Ice
1 Waterfront Bouncer
1 Man-o'-War
1 Trinket Mage
1 True-Name Nemesis
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
1 God-Eternal Kefnet
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Sower of Temptation
1 Urza, Lord High Artificer
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
1 Meloku the Clouded Mirror
1 Mulldrifter
1 Consecrated Sphinx
1 Torrential Gearhulk
1 Inkwell Leviathan
//Enchantment
1 Search for Azcanta
1 Control Magic
1 Opposition
1 Treachery
//Instant
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Force Spike
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Arcane Denial
1 Counterspell
1 Cyclonic Rift
1 Daze
1 Into the Roil
1 Mana Drain
1 Mana Leak
1 Memory Lapse
1 Miscalculation
1 Remand
1 Capsize
1 Forbid
1 Frantic Search
1 Cryptic Command
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Force of Will
1 Mystic Confluence
1 Dig Through Time
1 Ponder
1 Preordain
1 Time Walk
1 Show and Tell
1 Tinker
1 Bribery
1 Time Spiral
1 Upheaval
//Planeswalker
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Bloodsoaked Champion
1 Carnophage
1 Diregraf Ghoul
1 Dread Wanderer
1 Gravecrawler
1 Gutterbones
1 Tormented Hero
1 Bloodghast
1 Dark Confidant
1 Heir of Falkenrath
1 Nezumi Graverobber
1 Oona's Prowler
1 Pack Rat
1 Scrapheap Scrounger
1 Drana, Liberator of Malakir
1 Flesh Carver
1 Hypnotic Specter
1 Liliana, Heretical Healer
1 Ophiomancer
1 Vampire Nighthawk
1 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
1 Ravenous Chupacabra
1 Skinrender
1 Spawn of Mayhem
1 Yawgmoth, Thran Physician
1 Custodi Lich
1 Doom Whisperer
1 Shriekmaw
1 Grave Titan
1 Griselbrand
//Enchantment
1 Animate Dead
1 Bitterblossom
1 Dance of the Dead
1 Necromancy
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Recurring Nightmare
1 Nether Void
//Instant
1 Dark Ritual
1 Entomb
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Go for the Throat
1 Dismember
1 Hero's Downfall
1 Snuff Out
1 Duress
1 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Reanimate
1 Thoughtseize
1 Chainer's Edict
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Exhume
1 Hymn to Tourach
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Damnation
1 Living Death
1 Mind Twist
//Planeswalker
1 Liliana of the Veil
1 Falkenrath Gorger
1 Firedrinker Satyr
1 Goblin Guide
1 Goblin Welder
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Jackal Pup
1 Monastery Swiftspear
1 Stromkirk Noble
1 Zurgo Bellstriker
1 Dire Fleet Daredevil
1 Dismissive Pyromancer
1 Goblin Cratermaker
1 Harsh Mentor
1 Hellspark Elemental
1 Kari Zev, Skyship Raider
1 Stormblood Berserker
1 Young Pyromancer
1 Feldon of the Third Path
1 Goblin Rabblemaster
1 Hanweir Garrison
1 Imperial Recruiter
1 Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin
1 Legion Warboss
1 Manic Vandal
1 Seasoned Pyromancer
1 Hazoret the Fervent
1 Hellrider
1 Hero of Oxid Ridge
1 Pia and Kiran Nalaar
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge
1 Ilharg, the Raze-Boar
1 Siege-Gang Commander
1 Thundermaw Hellkite
1 Inferno Titan
1 Greater Gargadon
//Enchantment
1 Goblin Bombardment
1 Sulfuric Vortex
1 Sneak Attack
//Instant
1 Burst Lightning
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Abrade
1 Incinerate
1 Lightning Strike
1 Magma Jet
1 Searing Spear
1 Char
1 Fireblast
1 Chain Lightning
1 Faithless Looting
1 Firebolt
1 Forked Bolt
1 Arc Trail
1 Arc Lightning
1 Flames of the Firebrand
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Fiery Confluence
1 Burning of Xinye
1 Rolling Earthquake
//Planeswalker
1 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 Treetop Village
//Creature
1 Arbor Elf
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Elvish Mystic
1 Experiment One
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Hexdrinker
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Noble Hierarch
1 Pelt Collector
1 Den Protector
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Lotus Cobra
1 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Sylvan Caryatid
1 Tarmogoyf
1 Wall of Roots
1 Wild Mongrel
1 Eternal Witness
1 Manglehorn
1 Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1 Ramunap Excavator
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Troll Ascetic
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Master of the Wild Hunt
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Vengevine
1 Acidic Slime
1 Deep Forest Hermit
1 Kalonian Hydra
1 Thragtusk
1 Verdurous Gearhulk
1 Carnage Tyrant
1 Primeval Titan
1 Hornet Queen
1 Woodfall Primus
//Enchantment
1 Rancor
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Sylvan Library
1 Song of the Dryads
//Instant
1 Berserk
1 Worldly Tutor
//Sorcery
1 Channel
1 Life from the Loam
1 Regrowth
1 Cultivate
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Eureka
1 Harmonize
1 Natural Order
1 Plow Under
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Green Sun's Zenith
//Planeswalker
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Fractured Identity
1 Geist of Saint Traft
1 Reflector Mage
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Wall of Denial
//
1 Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice
1 Boros Charm
1 Boros Reckoner
1 Figure of Destiny
1 Lightning Helix
//
1 Baleful Strix
1 Hostage Taker
1 Psychatog
1 Shadowmage Infiltrator
1 The Scarab God
//
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Assassin's Trophy
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Bloodbraid Elf
1 Boggart Ram-Gang
1 Dragonlord Atarka
1 Firespout
1 Huntmaster of the Fells
//
1 Dack's Duplicate
1 Electrolyze
1 Fire // Ice
1 Izzet Charm
1 Prophetic Bolt
//
1 Desolation Angel
1 Lingering Souls
1 Mortify
1 Unburial Rites
1 Vindicate
//
1 Dreadbore
1 Falkenrath Aristocrat
1 Kolaghan's Command
1 Murderous Redcap
1 Rakdos Cackler
1 Dryad Militant
1 Glare of Subdual
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Knight of Autumn
1 Voice of Resurgence
//
1 Edric, Spymaster of Trest
1 Hydroid Krasis
1 Mystic Snake
1 Shardless Agent
1 Trygon Predator
Lands: No change.
Colorless: Added Karn Liberated
White: Added Dragon Hunter (removed Calciderm)
Blue: Added Phantasmal Image (removed Mind's Desire)
Black: Added Consuming Vapors (removed Curse of Shallow Graves)
Red: Added Zurgo Bellstriker (removed Gorilla Shaman), added Feldon of the Third Path (removed Kird Ape), added Goblin Settler (removed Mogg Fanatic), added Forked Bolt (removed Prophetic Flamespeaker)
Green: Added Noble Hierarch (removed Arbor Elf), added Kalonian Hydra (removed Joraga Treespeaker)
Multi: No change; although considering adding Desolation Angel, remove Stillmoon Cavalier? Thoughts +/- change?
For the green creature selection, I would like to remove Genesis and Indrik Stomphowler. Is there anything better than Boreal Druid and Hornet Queen?
Also, I think the Druid is fine if you need sources of C, and there's not much better than Queen for a big mana green bomb.
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Added the Queen, but instead of Druid added Eureka. We'll see how it plays out...
Lands: No change.
Colorless: No change.
White: Added Selfless Spirit, Eldrazi Displacer, Thalia and Archangel Avacyn.
Blue: No change.
Black: Added Heir of Falkenrath, Relentless Dead, and Nether Void.
Red: Added Hanweir Garrison.
Green: No changes.
Multi: Added Giant Solifuge.
Lands: No Change.
Colorless: No Change.
White: No Change.
Blue: No Change.
Black: No Change.
Red: Added Falkenrath Gorger, Monastery Swiftspear, and War-Name Aspirant.
Green: Added Channel.
Multi: No Change.
Lands: No Change.
Colorless: No Change.
White: Recruiter of the Guard.
Blue: No Change.
Black: No Change.
Red: No Change.
Green: No Change.
Multi: No Change.
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I'd replace Tormented Hero and Vampire Lacerator with Dread Wanderer and Sarcomancy for power and zombie synergy reasons.
Are Thada Adel and Talrand really good enough or are they pet cards?
If you are limiting your cube to one walker per color, there are at least three Lilianas better than Liliana Vess.
Manglehorn > Uktabi Orangutan.
I don't think you run enough guild lands. I'd add one more to each guild, cutting the weakest card from each. I'd use the manlands for all but Selesnya, which should get Horizon Canopy, but you can mix and match as you feel.
With Sneak Attack, Eureka, and Tooth & Nail, Gruul needs Dragonlord Atarka over Firespout or Solifuge.
I like Reflector Mage and Fractured Identity better than the guildmage, the wall, and the sphere.
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Thada Adel will be replaced in the future. I like Talrand in U/x control; keeps you alive long enough to do your end game. Nuts with Opposition.
I like the media promo picture for Vess (don't know how to link a specific version), but you're right that it should be upgraded to another Liliana.
Was holding on to nostalgia. Change made.
Just like the low planeswalker count, this is purposely done. I removed the signets long ago and keep a lower mana fixing to reward/not reward players.
Good suggestion. After getting a Dragonlord, I'll have to decide which one to remove.
Interestingly enough, I was having a similar discussion with a friend; he favored Reflector Mage, I was favoring Fractured Identity. Guess I should accommodate both, probably cut the guildmage and sphere.
Thanks for the comments, Rant.
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What are thoughts on Cast Down? Can it find room w/o removing Go for the Throat? i.e. I don't want to remove Go for the Throat...
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Land: No change
Colorless: No change
White: Palace Jailer and Lyra Dawnbringer
Blue: Thing in the Ice
Black: Gutterbones and Spawn of Mayhem
Red: Goblin Cratermaker
Green: Pelt Collector
Multi: No change
Land: No change
Colorless: No change
White: No change
Blue: God-Eternal Kefnet
Black: No change
Red: Legion Warboss and Ilharg, the Raze-Boar
Green: No change
Multi: No change
Lands: Prismatic Vista
Colorless: Sorcerous Spyglass and Walking Ballista
White: No Change
Blue: Urza, Lord High Artificer
Black: Yawgmoth, Thran Physician
Red: Seasoned Pyromancer
Green: Hexdrinker
Multi: Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice, Hydroid Krasis, and The Scarab God