Besides the beast I dislike this art. These and the new Extirpate have had pretty bad art, but other than those the art for this set has been fantastic! Some of my favorite.
EDIT: Unless you mean cards in New Phyrexia that produce these tokens, in which case, disregard what I just said. It'll be fun to see more token producers, though. This blocks seems to have quite a few tokens. Were older blocks that prolific with the theme?
i like my myr savage and deadly looking, but i dont get a choice since i play MTGO. i didn't care for the scars myr tokens. but i'll live.
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If that Goblin token doesn't have haste, could our Chancellor of the Furnace translation be wrong?
And if the translation is correct, why doesn't there seem to be a token for it?
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Shouldn't that goblin token have haste, regarding chancellor of the furnace?
Haste only matters the turn it enters the battlefield.
So it's perfectly fine to drop a Goblin (without haste in the text box) and say it has haste, attack with it, and then you can forget about the haste.
If they DID print haste in it's text box, the Goblin token could not be used for non-hasty Goblin token generators.
Therefore, the token has no haste in its textbox.
No, those are all tokens, there won't be any more. Check the collector numbers...
That's wrong I think. The token won't have haste. All abilities of tokens are given in the textbox, even haste. Check former tokens...
The last card to make hasty goblin tokens that I'm aware of was Goblin Assault. The Shards of Alara 1/1 Goblin token does not have haste printed on it. Haste is an exception because it's not worth printing haste on a token when haste only matters for a single turn, when leaving it off makes the same token more flexible and usable as a non-hasty one as necessary.
No, those are all tokens, there won't be any more. Check the collector numbers...
That's wrong I think. The token won't have haste. All abilities of tokens are given in the textbox, even haste. Check former tokens...
That's not true. There is also at least one precedent: the 3/1 Elemental Shaman token without haste, printed next to Hostility in Jace vs Chandra.
Also, what luminum_can said above.
The Golem has fleshy stuff attached to his chest, similar to what is described as Roxith's Golem servant in todays Planeswalker's Guide
If this is all nonsense I think its pretty stupid for Wizards to show a ''Flesh infused'' Golem along with that article at the same day.
The golem described in the article is definitely more "special" than a token. That token just has guts and whatnot hanging out, not the "crucified" former body of a praetor. I mean, that token art isn't exactly great, but I would think that if a card WERE to be used as the praetor's pet golem, they'd be more specific with the carcass on his chest. I can't make out more than a few random red bits.
Some, but not every time. That token was specifically used for just one card in the block, while Goblins are a lot more versatile and some have haste and some don't. Better to let people use the same tokens for both types.
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Haste only matters the turn it enters the battlefield.
So it's perfectly fine to drop a Goblin (without haste in the text box) and say it has haste, attack with it, and then you can forget about the haste.
If they DID print haste in it's text box, the Goblin token could not be used for non-hasty Goblin token generators.
Therefore, the token has no haste in its textbox.
it is relevant to have haste written in the text box for any copy creature-type effects...
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Haste is an exception because it's not worth printing haste on a token when haste only matters for a single turn, when leaving it off makes the same token more flexible and usable as a non-hasty one as necessary.
I disagree and here's why:
Scenario 1
* During your turn, the effect of your Chancellor of the Furnace makes a 1/1 Goblin token with haste with haste in its text box.
* During your opponent's turn, he or she uses an effect to gain control of said Goblin token.
* Since said token has haste printed on it, it's immediately obvious that your opponent can attack with said token this turn.
Scenario 2
* During your turn, the effect of your Chancellor of the Furnace makes a 1/1 Goblin token with haste, but without haste in its text box.
* During your opponent's turn, he or she uses an effect to gain control of said Goblin token.
* Your opponent can attack with said token this turn, but it's easy to overlook this because it isn't explicitly mentioned, or because you might think haste's irrelevant by this turn ;).
I'd say the thought that haste only matters for a single turn is blatantly false for as long as creature-stealing effects (EDIT: And copy effects, thanks joncaputo) still exist in Magic; that tokens printed with haste are always functionally different to otherwise identical non-haste ones so using the latter to stand in for the former causes problems; that if the card that makes a token says that token has haste, then it should have haste right there in its text box; and that Wizards are mistaken if they feel they can get away with this. But that's just me...
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Begin speculation on the Golem and Myr?
However, I'm an ever bigger fan of Mirrodin Plushies, so the Myr disappoints me. =(
The Golem token is from Golem Foundry or Precursor Golem.
EDIT: Unless you mean cards in New Phyrexia that produce these tokens, in which case, disregard what I just said. It'll be fun to see more token producers, though. This blocks seems to have quite a few tokens. Were older blocks that prolific with the theme?
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And if the translation is correct, why doesn't there seem to be a token for it?
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The article says that these are new versions of tokens previously released in the block. I think we will get a new batch of tokens too.
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Haste only matters the turn it enters the battlefield.
So it's perfectly fine to drop a Goblin (without haste in the text box) and say it has haste, attack with it, and then you can forget about the haste.
If they DID print haste in it's text box, the Goblin token could not be used for non-hasty Goblin token generators.
Therefore, the token has no haste in its textbox.
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The last card to make hasty goblin tokens that I'm aware of was Goblin Assault. The Shards of Alara 1/1 Goblin token does not have haste printed on it. Haste is an exception because it's not worth printing haste on a token when haste only matters for a single turn, when leaving it off makes the same token more flexible and usable as a non-hasty one as necessary.
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That's not true. There is also at least one precedent: the 3/1 Elemental Shaman token without haste, printed next to Hostility in Jace vs Chandra.
Also, what luminum_can said above.
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The golem described in the article is definitely more "special" than a token. That token just has guts and whatnot hanging out, not the "crucified" former body of a praetor. I mean, that token art isn't exactly great, but I would think that if a card WERE to be used as the praetor's pet golem, they'd be more specific with the carcass on his chest. I can't make out more than a few random red bits.
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it is relevant to have haste written in the text box for any copy creature-type effects...
Standard:
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Modern:
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I disagree and here's why:
Scenario 1
* During your turn, the effect of your Chancellor of the Furnace makes a 1/1 Goblin token with haste with haste in its text box.
* During your opponent's turn, he or she uses an effect to gain control of said Goblin token.
* Since said token has haste printed on it, it's immediately obvious that your opponent can attack with said token this turn.
Scenario 2
* During your turn, the effect of your Chancellor of the Furnace makes a 1/1 Goblin token with haste, but without haste in its text box.
* During your opponent's turn, he or she uses an effect to gain control of said Goblin token.
* Your opponent can attack with said token this turn, but it's easy to overlook this because it isn't explicitly mentioned, or because you might think haste's irrelevant by this turn ;).
I'd say the thought that haste only matters for a single turn is blatantly false for as long as creature-stealing effects (EDIT: And copy effects, thanks joncaputo) still exist in Magic; that tokens printed with haste are always functionally different to otherwise identical non-haste ones so using the latter to stand in for the former causes problems; that if the card that makes a token says that token has haste, then it should have haste right there in its text box; and that Wizards are mistaken if they feel they can get away with this. But that's just me...
Thou shalt not frame images with the modern card face
Thou shalt not change rules in vain
Remember the Reserved List to keep it holy
Honor thy Slivers and the symmetry of their abilities
Thou shalt not kill mana burn
Thou shalt not sacrifice depth for accessibility
Thou shalt not steal combat damage from the stack
Thou shalt tell a story through thy cards
All must be one