Wait, the way that is worded......for say Athreos, it would add one devotion for black, one for white, and one for black and white? that doesn't seem right, but that is how that sentence works as far as grammar. still looks like it would increase devotion for a 2 color god by 2, but that sentence structure technically makes it 3, because in Magic, 'red-white' is the same as 'red AND' white, except for hybrid
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Wait, the way that is worded......for say Athreos, it would add one devotion for black, one for white, and one for black and white? that doesn't seem right, but that is how that sentence works as far as grammar. still looks like it would increase devotion for a 2 color god by 2, but that sentence structure technically makes it 3, because in Magic, 'red-white' is the same as 'red AND' white, except for hybrid
Yes, this card does add 1 devotion to white, 1 to black, and 1 to white and black. Athreos, like each of the other multicolored gods, doesn’t care about your individual devotion to white or black, though.
There are what, 31 discreet color identities in Magic? And not a single card printed (yet) that cares about devotion to more than a single one.
Wait, the way that is worded......for say Athreos, it would add one devotion for black, one for white, and one for black and white? that doesn't seem right, but that is how that sentence works as far as grammar. still looks like it would increase devotion for a 2 color god by 2, but that sentence structure technically makes it 3, because in Magic, 'red-white' is the same as 'red AND' white, except for hybrid
Yes, this card does add 1 devotion to white, 1 to black, and 1 to white and black. Athreos, like each of the other multicolored gods, doesn’t care about your individual devotion to white or black, though.
There are what, 31 discreet color identities in Magic? And not a single card printed (yet) that cares about devotion to more than a single one.
With the exception of the Nykthos and the new Lotus which can each choose between each of the single colored identities each time it taps.
I don’t think that’s necessarily the best way to describe it. If I play Athreos I can animate him by having five other exclusively white pips in play. Athreos cares about black and white. The only place it gets messy is with hybrid mana, and now this card. But as I said above, dollars to donuts, the intent of this card is to provide one devotion to every god.
I don’t think that’s necessarily the best way to describe it. If I play Athreos I can animate him by having five other exclusively white pips in play. Athreos cares about black and white. The only place it gets messy is with hybrid mana, and now this card. But as I said above, dollars to donuts, the intent of this card is to provide one devotion to every god.
Right, I think this is exactly what it means in this context. It's not that this is considered 5 colors with out being five colors, I think it means it's providing one devotion to every source that is checking for devotion to a color. So a black devotion card will see one devotion to black with this and a card that is checking for both say white and red will only check this once, not twice, providing again, one devotion.
In what universe? If you build a deck like that, and ever draw that hand, I will personally come to wherever you live, perform complicated acts of awestruck ********, then disembowel myself to escape the world that allowed something like this to occur and validate you.
I don’t think that’s necessarily the best way to describe it. If I play Athreos I can animate him by having five other exclusively white pips in play. Athreos cares about black and white. The only place it gets messy is with hybrid mana, and now this card. But as I said above, dollars to donuts, the intent of this card is to provide one devotion to every god.
I think ‘best’ may be subjective and open to interpretation. Is it the simplest? Probably not, but I think it’s a good technical explanation, and one that jibes well with the current ruleset. Considering that this has been an ongoing point of debate since even before Theros 1.0 dropped (and mystifyingly so), I’m inclined to believe there is no best way at this point.
Maybe I can explain it better mathematically:
Devotion to white and black =/= (devotion to white) + (devotion to black)
Devotion to white and black = (sum of white pips) + (sum of black pips)
A colorless artifact giving devotion and themed around Greek temples is so freaking cool. The artist did an excellent job capturing the Grecian landscape
I just can’t with this set. It’s commons alone are more exiting to me than the mythics of any set ever
I don’t think that’s necessarily the best way to describe it. If I play Athreos I can animate him by having five other exclusively white pips in play. Athreos cares about black and white. The only place it gets messy is with hybrid mana, and now this card. But as I said above, dollars to donuts, the intent of this card is to provide one devotion to every god.
I think ‘best’ may be subjective and open to interpretation. Is it the simplest? Probably not, but I think it’s a good technical explanation, and one that jibes well with the current ruleset. Considering that this has been an ongoing point of debate since even before Theros 1.0 dropped (and mystifyingly so), I’m inclined to believe there is no best way at this point.
Maybe I can explain it better mathematically:
Devotion to white and black =/= (devotion to white) + (devotion to black)
Devotion to white and black = (sum of white pips) + (sum of black pips)
This still requires a caveat though. Devotion to white and black = (sum of white only pips and hybrid white pips that are not w/b) + (sum of black only pips and hybrid black pips that are not w/b) and (sum of hybrid white/black pips) + number of Altar of the Pantheons you control.
Where the altar gets tricky is that it also counts towards your devotion to Green, your devotion to Green and White and your devotion to everything else.
Devotion to x and y =/= to devotion to x + devotion to y is great. It's also correct to think of it as devotion to (x and y), because the word devotion only appears once, it's a single trait.
Not sure if this next example helps or hinders but theoretically we could see a demigod printed with a mana cost of (G/W)(G/W) and power = to devotion to white, toughness = to devotion to green. This theoretical creature would be a 2/2 if it were the only pips on the board and if you controlled it and an GGW of pips, it would be a 3/4.
Right. The point of mystery here isn’t how the altar works, it’s how devotion to multicolored gods works (as usual). The altar increases each of the 31 discreet color combinations by one each, but Athreos et al only cares about a single one of those combinations - in this case, WB.
A colorless artifact giving devotion and themed around Greek temples is so freaking cool. The artist did an excellent job capturing the Grecian landscape
I just can’t with this set. It’s commons alone are more exiting to me than the mythics of any set ever
And much like actual ancient Greek architecture,
this one is covered in colors, not solid white.
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probably good enough to support non-Devotion Gods, as well.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if this were the most popular mana rock in Standard in quite some time.
I want what it means I know about adding one devotion
The fact it gives a rainbow devotion is decent for certain decks
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Yes, this card does add 1 devotion to white, 1 to black, and 1 to white and black. Athreos, like each of the other multicolored gods, doesn’t care about your individual devotion to white or black, though.
There are what, 31 discreet color identities in Magic? And not a single card printed (yet) that cares about devotion to more than a single one.
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With the exception of the Nykthos and the new Lotus which can each choose between each of the single colored identities each time it taps.
Right, I think this is exactly what it means in this context. It's not that this is considered 5 colors with out being five colors, I think it means it's providing one devotion to every source that is checking for devotion to a color. So a black devotion card will see one devotion to black with this and a card that is checking for both say white and red will only check this once, not twice, providing again, one devotion.
I think ‘best’ may be subjective and open to interpretation. Is it the simplest? Probably not, but I think it’s a good technical explanation, and one that jibes well with the current ruleset. Considering that this has been an ongoing point of debate since even before Theros 1.0 dropped (and mystifyingly so), I’m inclined to believe there is no best way at this point.
Maybe I can explain it better mathematically:
Devotion to white and black =/= (devotion to white) + (devotion to black)
Devotion to white and black = (sum of white pips) + (sum of black pips)
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I just can’t with this set. It’s commons alone are more exiting to me than the mythics of any set ever
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
This still requires a caveat though. Devotion to white and black = (sum of white only pips and hybrid white pips that are not w/b) + (sum of black only pips and hybrid black pips that are not w/b) and (sum of hybrid white/black pips) + number of Altar of the Pantheons you control.
Where the altar gets tricky is that it also counts towards your devotion to Green, your devotion to Green and White and your devotion to everything else.
Devotion to x and y =/= to devotion to x + devotion to y is great. It's also correct to think of it as devotion to (x and y), because the word devotion only appears once, it's a single trait.
Not sure if this next example helps or hinders but theoretically we could see a demigod printed with a mana cost of (G/W)(G/W) and power = to devotion to white, toughness = to devotion to green. This theoretical creature would be a 2/2 if it were the only pips on the board and if you controlled it and an GGW of pips, it would be a 3/4.
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And much like actual ancient Greek architecture,
this one is covered in colors, not solid white.