So, DC's clarification of Rule #3 is exactly how I perceived it when I read it, which is why I found Killjoy's post to be very odd. It also rings of RobRoy's scum tell from back in the day - focused too much on mechanics, not on hunting scum.
Now, apparently there was some confusion - enough to the point where people clearly asked DC to clarify it - so maybe my misgivings over the post weren't fully warranted. However, what is interesting is that Killjoy ignored my vote on him, entirely; and then he had the nerve to point out Masterplum hadn't responded to his post about him at all.
Well isn't that interesting. /churchladyvoice
You didn't explain it. So I didn't bother with it. I knew you'd explain it eventually, then I could respond. Now I really don't need to, since you've noticed that everyone else misinterpreted that rule as well.
But in a later post, you say I ignored a question. What question is that?
It wasn't really a question, per se, since I think I said "Let's see if you can figure out why", but I thought the invitation was pretty obvious. I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but you just admitted to intentionally avoiding it above, so yeah, it was obvious.
Furthermore, I then pointed out that not only did you ignore that, you ignored my vote on you entirely, and you went ahead and got on Masterplum's case about doing the very same thing. You've ignored that portion altogether here in your response. Why is that? Why did you think Masterplum owed you an explanation, but you couldn't be bothered to give me one?
Additional nitpick: "everyone else misinterpreted the rule" is not necessarily true.
I hope Killjoy found his way home from lunch. I'm still waiting for him to acknowledge the vote I put on him, the question he ignored, the subsequent post he ignored about him ignoring it, and well, frankly, anything at this point.
So, DC's clarification of Rule #3 is exactly how I perceived it when I read it, which is why I found Killjoy's post to be very odd. It also rings of RobRoy's scum tell from back in the day - focused too much on mechanics, not on hunting scum.
Now, apparently there was some confusion - enough to the point where people clearly asked DC to clarify it - so maybe my misgivings over the post weren't fully warranted. However, what is interesting is that Killjoy ignored my vote on him, entirely; and then he had the nerve to point out Masterplum hadn't responded to his post about him at all.
Jokes aside, I like where dC's vote ended up, but Thor is on to something with the response to his post. On the flip side, I also appreciate dC's comments about Cyouni.
@Cyouni: Are you actually going to address dC's remarks or just make light of them?
I think you misunderstand me, Thor. My 'sticking point' is the issue with Kami in that last game I agreed with her premise of the case on you - even though I had inside information. She was town, she made a good push against you.
My problem here is that I don't agree with her thoughts about Vi from last game, and she drops a wall in 256 designed to propel the wagon forward with them. Here she is unknown alignment making a bad push filled with misinformation.
There is a disconnect between these two things; hence the reason I am voting KoL. See: why I asked Cyan about KoL. She was doing KoL things at that point, now she's doing other things which I don't like.
I already addressed why #256 sucks in my post above.
@Thor: See, even though I was scum with you last game and knew your alignment, I completely agreed with Kami's case on you. I was actually infuriated enough in the early game that I wanted to see you hang beyond just the amazing TownCred points it would've bought me. Kami's attack here on Vi is utter garbage. That's the sticking point for me.
So, KoL, tell me exactly what else has been "utter rubbish" in my previous posts. It seems like you have more of an issue with my ultimate conclusion - as Tammy noted - and the lack of posts, themselves (get over it), than with anything contained in them.
I don't think Kami's analysis of Vi is correct at all. I realize desCoures has already touched on this, somewhat, but as someone who was scum last game - even if I didn't control the kill until Thor had died - I didn't feel that way about her at all. I tried to put some doubt in the other townies about her, but the way she strode into the last day made it very clear that route was going nowhere. Vierni didn't get killed because there were other pressing matters like a doc, a vig, and a gunsmith. It's incredibly disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Those were the only three scum kills. Had I been forced to kill someone Night 4, it would have very obviously been Vierni.
So, my read on KoL has flipped in one post - and by extension, my read on Vierni - who I was previously leaning over the scum side of the fence towards.
Well, Iso, because you and I have this knack for nabbing people early.
desCoures because - while I made up a bunch of crap last game about how "off" his reads were - well, it was just that. Me making stuff up. Which I seem to recall dC saying was exactly what I was doing. What I didn't make up last game is how dC is generally the benchmark for analysts.
So, with that said - I feel good about my reads, but the two of you dissenting says that the likelihood I'm off is higher and/or there's scum amongst you.
I will try to post while I'm home on 3/25 and/or 3/26.
Thanks,
DYH
It wasn't really a question, per se, since I think I said "Let's see if you can figure out why", but I thought the invitation was pretty obvious. I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but you just admitted to intentionally avoiding it above, so yeah, it was obvious.
Furthermore, I then pointed out that not only did you ignore that, you ignored my vote on you entirely, and you went ahead and got on Masterplum's case about doing the very same thing. You've ignored that portion altogether here in your response. Why is that? Why did you think Masterplum owed you an explanation, but you couldn't be bothered to give me one?
Additional nitpick: "everyone else misinterpreted the rule" is not necessarily true.
This is far more reasonable logic than what Iso is currently using in retort.
Also, it would be hilarious if CropCircles would come out of nowhere and slice Iso's head off with a day vig after asking that question.
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Now, apparently there was some confusion - enough to the point where people clearly asked DC to clarify it - so maybe my misgivings over the post weren't fully warranted. However, what is interesting is that Killjoy ignored my vote on him, entirely; and then he had the nerve to point out Masterplum hadn't responded to his post about him at all.
Well isn't that interesting. /churchladyvoice
Let's see if you can figure out why.
No games (for quite some time, actually).
Thanks,
DYH
@Cyouni: Are you actually going to address dC's remarks or just make light of them?
My problem here is that I don't agree with her thoughts about Vi from last game, and she drops a wall in 256 designed to propel the wagon forward with them. Here she is unknown alignment making a bad push filled with misinformation.
There is a disconnect between these two things; hence the reason I am voting KoL. See: why I asked Cyan about KoL. She was doing KoL things at that point, now she's doing other things which I don't like.
I already addressed why #256 sucks in my post above.
So, KoL, tell me exactly what else has been "utter rubbish" in my previous posts. It seems like you have more of an issue with my ultimate conclusion - as Tammy noted - and the lack of posts, themselves (get over it), than with anything contained in them.
So, my read on KoL has flipped in one post - and by extension, my read on Vierni - who I was previously leaning over the scum side of the fence towards.
Vote: Kami
desCoures because - while I made up a bunch of crap last game about how "off" his reads were - well, it was just that. Me making stuff up. Which I seem to recall dC saying was exactly what I was doing. What I didn't make up last game is how dC is generally the benchmark for analysts.
So, with that said - I feel good about my reads, but the two of you dissenting says that the likelihood I'm off is higher and/or there's scum amongst you.