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  • posted a message on Prison Block Mafia II Sign ups 15/15: Transferring to prison...
    Quote from KittyCupCake »
    I want Rhand as a cellmate, so when we lynch him D1, I can move his empty cot next to mine to make a queen size

    Sorry no girls in my cell!
    Posted in: Old Sign-ups
  • posted a message on The 2019 MTGS Mafia Awards Thread
    I loved our early mindmeld in one last job and our secret communication we managed and then Cantrip deciding to ignore all of that Smile
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on The 2019 MTGS Mafia Awards Thread
    Quote from Ecophagy »

    Rhand is a big nerd who played 11 (out of 14) games.

    I died early in most of them lol
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    In case I’m not dead yet
    vote Rhand

    No more orb passing and Night action arrangement and last thought shenanigans.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    I’ve actually spent the last 3 days in a combination of anger and breakdown. Which is why I couldn’t perform here either.
    I’m usually better at this than now.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    yeh it does... I’ve been their top scorer for years, I have one year of results that aren’t as great and they’re ready to let me go.
    All because some retired americans didn’t tick “excellent” on their surveys.

    What they did now is cut back my amount of cruises from 7 to 4, and I can’t live off that.
    Either I find myself a new job or a job that can complement that now.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    I would vote myself now but we have dayyyychaaaaat and I can help my buddies out some moooooreeee.
    (and I'm drunk because I just sort of lost my job, which triggered that post)
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    My current reads:

    1. Silvercrys3467
    Mythrilcrys would be more useful
    2. Lastwhisper
    Troll
    3. shadowlancerxJackritoProphylaxis
    Replacement extravaganza
    4. Vaimes
    Rhymes with rhymes
    5. KittyCupCake
    I’m a dog owner. His name is Jay and he’s a manchester terrier.
    6. vezokpiraka
    Arr Pirata
    7. Rhand
    Not your right hand
    8. dkingsland967
    should change his name to dpeasantsland
    9. M1ndreaverKeldeo
    spammmmmmmm
    10. Axelrod
    Axe El Rod asap
    11. Killjoy
    He did
    13. SlothfulGrapefruit21
    I have a citrus allergy (for real)
    ?. Fulcrum
    I accidentally deleted her and forgot her number. I have nothing to say about her anyways because the only pun I could think of is NSFW.
    17. Asta
    La vista
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    Oh I counted Grape I guess.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    Hmpf seems my lynch is unavoidable.
    I will write up my final thoughts later today.

    I’m a bit sad that what looked like a very powerful role turned out to be a French vanilla.

    I think I am at L-1 now? I would appreciate it of someone would unvote so I don’t get speedhammered before I manage to write up that post.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    Quote from Prophylaxis »

    I'm not really a fan of Rhand's neutral hunting and his vote on Keldeo; kind of want to see a case from him on why he thinks Keldeo is scum aside from "he's next on my PoE".

    Neutral hunting? I unvoted him when I realised he's probably neutral rather than scum.
    It bugs me that he denies it though. I'm pretty sure that's what he is. But I'm willing to wait and see what he claims toMorrow.

    My case on Keldeo is that he doesn't take stances. There's not much more. I have a hard time digesting his posts and won't reread him again.
    It is mainly a POE thing.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    Heh this is a scum push if I ever saw one.
    Quote from Axelrod »
    I was going to say that the people who are hiding things about their roles (Vaimes/Fulcrum/Rhand/someone else?) are not doing anyone any favors in terms of figuring stuff out, but it appears Rhand at least has now full-claimed?

    I'm going to look at that later. I've actually been trying to review him for awhile and I have notes.

    It feels like a lot of my concerns come from *apparent* philosophical disagreements about how to play/what things mean.

    This is where this post should have ended. Because apparently we do have different views on what things mean.

    For instance, when he says:

    With that pocket remark, Fulcrum being scum without Vezok being a buddy would be very strange. Why would scum ever confess pocketing to town?
    I want to roll my eyes and say "really?" Exactly how naive are you? And that I don't think Rhand is that naive.

    I obviously do think that scum doesn't confess they're pocketing town. There are some exceptions like tom or Rodemy who would do things like that, but Fulcrum doesn't strike me as the kind of player that would ever do this. It's too much tongue-in-cheek for her style.

    Or this:

    Then you explain me why scum!Vaimes would ever tell town!Grape to go and read all his own posts in a vacuum. Grape is a good player. Making him ISO yourself when you’re scum is a completely needless risk.
    Which seems like a completely trivial thing (to me) for someone to do as scum. In fact, it might be more likely for scum to brush off a comment with "go read my posts" than not. And again I'm going, does Rhand really believe this?

    You pulled this completely out of context. Vaimes said to Grape, who was catching up, to ISO Mind, me and himself. Out of the blue.
    That has nothing to do with scum brushing off a comment with "go read my posts".

    He says:
    I think Nacho is scum. His reason for changing to summer is very weak and then we get that daykill. I think whoever did that daykill was a lynch candidate and Nacho went yolo with the season change
    And my reaction was just opposite. I thought whoever had that daykill was totally not in jeopardy and just waiting until late in the day to fire it off because they could.

    Does your reaction being opposite mean mine is fake then? Because it isn't. It's what I thought.

    His analysis of Vaimes claim:
    If the ability would’ve worked on Vez, he would probably have joined the chat with whoever the partner is and outed him to scum.

    And he would’ve closed mason chat, which is pretty big.

    And if he knew he can’t take a passive, he didn’t give a BP vest to someone he would maybe have to kill later.

    I see only mafia gain and no town gain in targeting Vez
    Makes no sense to me. I was having trouble believing that Vaimes believed that he could get some kind of a Mason ability from targeting Vez, but this is totally different. It seems almost less likely to me that a scum with Vaimes' ability, targeting Vez would get a Neighborizor Chat out of it and "closed the mason chat." That's just wild, illogical spec. to me.

    What would Vaimes have gotten then if it would have worked? A neighbour chat is the most logical thing. I don't think DV is going to add more straight clears to a game that has masons. AND I was under the assumption that Vaimes isn't town, so having him get a masoniser shot didn't even enter my thoughts.

    Then there are the times he plays in a way that I just wouldn't and I don't think is correct.

    You established from the beginning that we have disagreements on how the game is played.
    Have you even read some of my other games? I'm sure you'll disagree with my play all the time. And yet we're both good players.


    I’m going to ignore my instinct and let KJ slide for now. Too many of my townreads are calling this v/v.
    I just don't think this way. I'm not saying I can't be persuaded I'm wrong, but I don't abandon a read because "my current townreads" seem to disagree.

    I tend to step into v/v tunnels and taking distance and re-focussing is the only way to get out of them. If my town reads are saying that that is what is happening, then I have to take that step back.
    You're twisting this into something "wrong" while it is the best thing to do. We were dominating the thread with our fight.

    Then he said this:

    If there’s anything post #300 has taught me for this game, it is that there’s no point in long explanations for my reads. It costs a lot of energy to write that all out and all it got me was flak.
    Which is like a very scum response to me. And I say that as someone who often gets flack after posting a big read list.

    How is this a real read? "a very scum response to me"? That doesn't mean anything and the "to me" qualifier makes this whole sentence moot.


    There's a few more things I'll put in another post. None of this is, like, super-incriminating. It's just...wrong? And I think Rhand's a pretty good player and shouldn't be this wrong?

    None of that is "wrong". I can't see any other reason for you posting this baloney than that you're bloodthirsty and want to see me hang now that I'm at 6 votes.

    Quote from Axelrod »
    If I am strictly looking at where Rhand's votes have gone this game, it's:

    Me (wrong)
    Vezok (Mason? Unclaimed at that point)
    Killjoy (my towniest read? And the reason here is that Rhand didn't like that Killjoy was saying he thought he had a read Rhand when he's (apparently) been wrong about Rhand a lot in the past)
    Grape (Other Mason? Also was unclaimed at that point)
    Me again (wrong)
    Nacho (wrong)
    Vaimes
    Keldeo (and this is at a time when Keldeo is just making stronger and stronger posts)

    If the Masons are real, and my read on Killjoy is right, this isn't particularly great. The Vaimes vote might be fine? Except then the reason he came off Vaimes is weird - because he decided he thinks Vaimes is actually Neutral, despite Vaimes explicitly saying that is not true.

    I realize that no one else can credit the incorrect me votes either.

    I'm using my vote what it's made for: pressure and lynching people I think are scum.
    Your votes:
    KCC (my strongest townread)
    Mindreaver (who was absent)
    KCC again
    No lynch

    Pot - kettle much?

    Vote Axelrod
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    I checked some things with the mod and turns out I didn't completely understand my role.
    It's way weaker than I thought.

    The ability name is God of the Underworld.
    I target at Night and can use the ability to take a seasonal + a seasonal action in the same Night, which made me think I could use the one I got that Night immediately, but apparently I cannot because I will only receive it at the end of that Night.
    The ability will match the current season.
    I can target the same ability multiple times.

    It would take me a full "year" to power up for the next year, so basically I am vanilla until Night 5 the earliest, and since we didn't create any targets for me on the first 2 Nights, it's going to take a looooong time for me to power up.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    Did he say that?
    I can only find him saying the items are one-shot for the bp and track and two-shot for the message.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Ever Changing Seasons Mafia - Day Eight Final Fall
    I’m thinking of the scenario where both me and Vaimes are town.
    I could dig up powerful skills we lost, Pass them to Vaimes for bulletproof vests and Dkings keeps bodyguarding Vaimes.
    The only way for scum to interfere with that is get rid of dkings, then Vaimes. By then I have enough bulletproof vests to never die.
    Meanwhile Vaimes has an arsenal of useful stuff that he can use. He can even block the kill on dkings one Night with tom’s ability.

    And that is with the assumption there are no protectives unclaimed, which would make it even more OP.

    I mean maybe the mod didn’t think about all possible scenarios, but I severely doubt this combo exists.
    Posted in: Mafia
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