Quote from ValanarchI am classifying Prison as Control (it is trying to control the game), Fast Combo as Combo (they are the same thing, it is just one is faster), and Dredge and Belcher as combo (they are built around comboing with a few certain cards). If one views Magic as having 6 archetypes (Control, Combo, Aggro, Tempo, Midrange, and Ramp), Modern has the same amount of Combo and Midrange as Legacy while having more Ramp, Control, and Aggro. The only thing that Legacy has that Modern doesn't in archetypes is Tempo.
If you add together WUR Control, Cruel Control, Mono-U Tron, Esper Zur, and 8-Rack in Modern, I'm pretty sure that that is more of the metagame than UW Miracles, Pox, Enchantress, MUD, and the Control version of Stoneblade. I could be wrong though.
Quote from asw122This is the funniest thing I've read in YEARS because its either the most uninformed thing ever, the trolliest thing ever or the greatest joke ever.
Go watch the SCG open legacy coverage, then come back and tell me its all FOW vs goyf with no decision trees because you've obviously never played any real legacy - that format is ALL decision trees. This is the kind of thing I hear from people who tried to beat down legacy storm or dredge with zen block GR landfall decks.
For one thing - I play legacy. I have 0 goyf and 0 force in my decks, and I play 3 major established decks - dredge, enchantress & goblins. I've won my share of events. That in itself disproves your statement.
And if you're not willing to try legacy or at least watch a couple of opens, you're not qualified to criticize it. I've played modern, I'm not a fan. But I don't go around shrieking that cards are underpowered, combos are slow and control's a myth. I just don't play it.
Quote from IMFPS
Show me one viable, consistent, competitive modern or legacy deck for the same $164 price tag as my standard deck. and i will right here and now retract all my statements and admit i was wrong and do so thankfully and without bitterness. It would actually please me greatly.
This, believe it or not, is not a personal attack against legacy or modern players, far from it. This is me saying from the perspective of a somewhat new player that the barriers keeping me from modern and legacy are very real.
Quote from goldmane77Could not agree more about reprinting Clique. I'm running proxies of that card in my deck at the moment cause the price is ridiculous.
On another note, why is it that whenever there is a discussion about Modern on here, someone brings up Legacy? There are two completely different formats. I don't play Legacy, but I have nothing against that format and I wish the same attitude can be taken for those on the other side.
Quote from LakeCityMany people are saying that Legacy isn't all blue decks or that not all decks run Force of will - this is completely true.
But keep in mind legacy is VERY much Force of Will format - even if your deck doesn't run blue, it has to prepare for FoW: this card does much to define how decks are built and run in legacy.
Quote from Chenjesu
There was one cool G/B deck I saw a long time ago, it was kind of like a Rock deck but it ran white and swords to plowshares, but I remember seeng a few cards in the above lists in it, they are vaguely familiar when thinking about that deck. From what I remember, it ran birds of paradise, Kitchen Finks, Recurrng Nightmare, Woodfall Primus, and it was fun to play against, wish I could remember the rest of it. There were a few other things that made it cohesive, I can't remember what they were, but they were cheaper mana cost cards.
Quote from EnglishboiI'm currently playing Affinty so the cheap counter magic is a must (hence the 1 cmc request)
Quote from ChaosReaper17Skullclamp and Mental Misstep are both horribly broken cards that can never come off the banned list.
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Long story short: none of the banned cards seem to hit the sweet spot in terms of power level, but since so much of a card's power level is determined by what other cards are available for it to synergize with, we just argue endlessly about what card could save the format. We all hope wizards will print something to hate out BGx, but the way the company prints things make this slow and difficult. If printing something isn't an option, and unbanning something won't fix the meta, then we are only left with everyone's least favourite option: banning something from BGx.
Of course, then we argue about what to ban from BGx...
Quote from SPMillerEspecially game one. Affinity decks are heavily favored to win the first game against pretty much any other deck in the field. If the opponent doesn't have the hate, game two is also a win. That's why I expect to see lots of Affinity sideboard hate. Really, it's the same cycle as ever: Affinity wrecks, people sideboard for it, Affinity dwindles, people stop sideboarding for it...
Quote from Badd Business
I have to say, for the first time in a long time, I don't think there is much *actual* diversity in the format. There are a lot of tier 2 decks, but the difference between the tier, or even tier 1.5 strategies is just way too big of a gap between the power players of the format, those being Pod, BGx, Affinity, and RG Tron.
Quote from ktkenshinxI really don't think you can call Tron a combo deck. People have done it before and out of respect for the forum rules and them, I will disagree less forcefully than if I were asked outside of MTGS. It's a ramp deck, not a combo deck. Just because the deck uses synergies to win, that doesn't make it a combo deck.