black Lotus with upside? sign me up! ok the discard your hand might technically not be an upside, however it does turn on hellbent for infernal tutor and We can use it in conjunction with draw spells to draw into our doomsday pile the turn we cast doomsday
This card is nuts. it allows for deck manipulation for the turns before your combo and on your combo turn it allows you to dig into your doomsday pile without spending mana
Ponder, Brainstorm, and Gitaxian probe
These cards function very identically to each other, they either help us set up for our doomsday turn or we have them in our hand when we cast doomsday allowing us to draw into our doomsday piles.
[CARD]
Duress[/CARD]
Allows us to proactively protect our combo.
Force of Will
Allows us to retroactively protect our combo.
Shelldock Isle
This card is also pretty nuts, it acts as a free impulse that puts the card in a zone that is immune to hand disruption and wont get exiled to doomsday. when we cast doomsday we get the extra card and we get to cast it for 2 blue(one for the cost and the other is you have to tap the land itself). Can be used as a win condition with emrakul it does have some downsides, namely being vulnerable to wasteland or stifle.
What are some win cons?
Good question, It really depends on what doomsday plan you want to win with and there are a few i will cover 3 as an example to show you how a doomsday deck could win and when these plans are used
Make my deck any five cards?
if you have a ponder or brainstorm in hand you could make a doomsday pile of 4 gitaxian probes and a lab maniac.
Tendrils of agony
Build up some storm and kill them your pile will need to include Ill-gotten gains.
Storm is the hardest way to kill your opponent but the safest and most consistent rout without doomsday.
Shelldock Isle
Ok so the plan here is simple withe the isle in hand you cast doomsday and put Emrakrul the aeons torn in your pile, wait till next turn and cast Emrakul off of a land.
Hilarious
Please note you get to take an extra turn off of the shelldock island as you are casting Emrakul.
note uses first decklist:
Doomsday, gitaxian probe, dark ritual, Lion's eye diamond, brainstorm, shell dock island
Rout 1
first cast LED then dark ritual, followed by doomsday, we put emrakul on top then we cast shelldock island, next turn we cast Emrakul off of shelldock isle.
Rout 2
first cast LED then dark ritual, followed by doomsday, our doomsday pile is the following top to bottom:meditate, gitaxian probe, lion's eye diamond, ill gotten gains, tendrils of agony. we draw a card with brainstorm draw a probe, we cast mediate and in response we crack LED our hand is now LED ill gotten gains and tendrils. we cast Ill gotten gains we return LED LED and tendrils and cast tendrils for leathal.
Rout 3
first cast LED then dark ritual, followed by doomsday, our doomsday pile is the following top to bottom:Meditate, Gitaxian probe, force of will, Laboratory maniac, duress.
we probe for meditate and in response to probe we crack led for blue, draw the meditate cast meditate draw our deck, play duress, cast maniac with force back up if he resolves cast probe and win immediately.
My advice to potential pilots is to play 1000 games of every other combo deck in the format, learn to play all the other combo decks then play doomsday.
The reason led is "more fair" is that wotc printed some very good storm and graveyard hate cards. You have thaalia, rest in peace, trinisphere, tomb, etc, etc that all hit storm or dredge decks. Heck graveyard hate weakens ant storm and makes it a little harder to combo off.
Yup they have been trying to fix LED based decks for 15 years now.
And I've got some bad news for you sunshine. They will never undo the damage that has been done. (outside of a banning of course)
your comments are appreciated.
I somehow forgot SDT, My Sincerest apologies it will be added shortly.
What is it?
Doomsday is a combo deck that Exploits the title card Doosday usually to set up a pile of cards to immediately win the game.
What are the core cards?
Other than the titular doomsday, some common culprits that a typical doomsday deck will play are the follows:
Dark ritual
Three black mana for one black mana, helps you get enough mana to set up your doomsday pile and execute your plan.
Lion's eye diamond
black Lotus with upside? sign me up! ok the discard your hand might technically not be an upside, however it does turn on hellbent for infernal tutor and We can use it in conjunction with draw spells to draw into our doomsday pile the turn we cast doomsday
Sensei's Divining top
This card is nuts. it allows for deck manipulation for the turns before your combo and on your combo turn it allows you to dig into your doomsday pile without spending mana
Ponder, Brainstorm, and Gitaxian probe
These cards function very identically to each other, they either help us set up for our doomsday turn or we have them in our hand when we cast doomsday allowing us to draw into our doomsday piles.
[CARD]
Duress[/CARD]
Allows us to proactively protect our combo.
Force of Will
Allows us to retroactively protect our combo.
Shelldock Isle
This card is also pretty nuts, it acts as a free impulse that puts the card in a zone that is immune to hand disruption and wont get exiled to doomsday. when we cast doomsday we get the extra card and we get to cast it for 2 blue(one for the cost and the other is you have to tap the land itself). Can be used as a win condition with emrakul it does have some downsides, namely being vulnerable to wasteland or stifle.
What are some win cons?
Good question, It really depends on what doomsday plan you want to win with and there are a few i will cover 3 as an example to show you how a doomsday deck could win and when these plans are used
Laboratory maniac
Make my deck any five cards?
if you have a ponder or brainstorm in hand you could make a doomsday pile of 4 gitaxian probes and a lab maniac.
Tendrils of agony
Build up some storm and kill them your pile will need to include Ill-gotten gains.
Storm is the hardest way to kill your opponent but the safest and most consistent rout without doomsday.
Shelldock Isle
Ok so the plan here is simple withe the isle in hand you cast doomsday and put Emrakrul the aeons torn in your pile, wait till next turn and cast Emrakul off of a land.
Hilarious
Please note you get to take an extra turn off of the shelldock island as you are casting Emrakul.
Decklists
Doomsday with transformational sideboard to ANT
4 Dark Ritual
4 infernal tutor
4 Lion's eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
4 Gitaxian probe
4 Brainstorm
4 Duress
2 ponder
4 Doomsday
1 meditate
1 laboratory maniac
1 tendrils of agony
1 Ill gotten gains
1 Emrakul the Aeons torn
4 shelldock isle
4 polluted delta
2 scalding tarn
3 underground sea
1 Island
1 Swamp
2 inquisition of kozilek
1 thoughtseize
1 tendrils of agony
1 Ad Nauseam
4 cabal ritual
4 burning wish
2 volcanic island
Burning wish board
4 Dark Ritual
4 infernal tutor
4 Burning wish
4 Lion's eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
4 Gitaxian probe
4 Brainstorm
3 Duress
2 ponder
3 Doomsday
1 laboratory maniac
1 tendrils of agony
1 Ill gotten gains
3 volcanic island
4 polluted delta
2 scalding tarn
3 underground sea
1 Island
1 Swamp
1 Mountain
1 Massacre
1 Order's ruin
1 past in flames
1 Diminishing returns
1 Ill-Gotten Gains
1 Tenrils of agony
1 Duress
1 meditate
1 Cruel Bargain
1 Empty the warrens
1 pyroclasm
1 chain of vapor
1 rushing river
2 defense grid
Some sample hands we would look at to combo off
Doomsday, gitaxian probe, dark ritual, Lion's eye diamond, brainstorm, shell dock island
Rout 1
first cast LED then dark ritual, followed by doomsday, we put emrakul on top then we cast shelldock island, next turn we cast Emrakul off of shelldock isle.
Rout 2
first cast LED then dark ritual, followed by doomsday, our doomsday pile is the following top to bottom:meditate, gitaxian probe, lion's eye diamond, ill gotten gains, tendrils of agony. we draw a card with brainstorm draw a probe, we cast mediate and in response we crack LED our hand is now LED ill gotten gains and tendrils. we cast Ill gotten gains we return LED LED and tendrils and cast tendrils for leathal.
Rout 3
first cast LED then dark ritual, followed by doomsday, our doomsday pile is the following top to bottom:Meditate, Gitaxian probe, force of will, Laboratory maniac, duress.
we probe for meditate and in response to probe we crack led for blue, draw the meditate cast meditate draw our deck, play duress, cast maniac with force back up if he resolves cast probe and win immediately.
Its hard.
My advice to potential pilots is to play 1000 games of every other combo deck in the format, learn to play all the other combo decks then play doomsday.
Edit: would anyone like a primer?
Yup they have been trying to fix LED based decks for 15 years now.
And I've got some bad news for you sunshine. They will never undo the damage that has been done. (outside of a banning of course)
yeah what is with all the "Can't be countered" stuff, seems like they are hosing aggro-control decks like delver