I'll have an updated list for my siege zoo once I complete it. With the holiday season I have picked up full art promos of Lightning Helix, a playset of promo Path to Exile and three Knight of the Reliquarys printed from the knights vs dragons. I also got 4 packs of Khans of Tarkir (got nothing) and the new holiday box (again got nothing). Did you all get anything Magical?
Here is what I brew up real quick... Lantern I hope you don't mind but I used your deck as a base for it. I know that I don't have goyfs and they are so much an all-star. However that's why I decided to go with Abrupt Decay over Tribal Flames. Another reason is that this deck is hardcore Midrange, since there are a few more three drops than I normally run. This is a rough draft of a deck that I would like to run in my lil tourney next time I go.
I don't like mana dorks with Zoo... in a late game you are drawing 1/1 or 1/2 creatures that does nothing for your board. When you can be grabbing an knight that will be at worse a 5/5 that fetches out answers built in the deck via land. Plus playing cards like Choke or Bloodmoon allow you to win, but it all comes down to knowing when to play them. If you play to late then they have no effect, if you play them to early and you get it gets you. Also they can respond to both enchantments, so if you play them and get them stick you get to win its well served.
I love Steppe Lynx especially when u have a metric ton of fetches and Knight of the Reliquary in the main board. As for no goyfs there are stuff u can run but with my limited experience with zoo you want to be able to react to whatever the opponent plays after turn 3. While knight can be bigger and easier to make bigger it's still one more mana that you can be having for a path or bolt to react with. Also with Scavenging Ooze being a constant mana sink to have it constant grow or if it's to get it out of bolt range. I like my build of Naya Zoo that doesn't have goyfs in the deck. Goyf is just something that would make the deck so much better.. and I would like to run it with knight as well. Making it over the top and will to go to the big events with.
@ Lantern I can't wait to see what's gonna be in MM2.. I think it's gonna be awesome and I assume full of epicness.
As I play more I wish I could get Goyfs... anyone else has this problem. Its just so solid of an card. Maybe some time in the future I will be getting me a playset, lol, that is if the wife will ever allow me. I am planning on giving a stab at building Siege Zoo though.. I think it will catch my buddy off guard and allow me snatch a tourney victory and it just looks like fun
@Papdaddy_44: Yes, many people who want/or do play zoo have this problem including myself. IRL I have only 2 I got during the time when Future sight was out. Online I have none because I wasn't playing much back then and Modern wasn't around yet as a format. Online is all I really have time for right now with my schedule. After what Lantern did to get started in MTGO (selling Real World cards to Dealer who runs a major MTGO bot chain for store credit online.) I am looking back over my cards,( I haven't organized them in years.)and seeing what I have extra or may not need to get MTGO bot credit so I can play them. There are some guys/(girls?) who have had some success on MTGO competitively in Daily's without Goyf in their Zoo, but as Lantern and many others in this thread have said before nothing can really be anything but a subpar replacement for Goyf.
Yeah... I am wanting to get goyfs, but at the current price I will be not getting myself a playset anytime soon. However I did defend them when a person said that they should be banned. His reason was because of how big it gets for two mana, however we all said there a good amount of awnsers in the magic world for an out of control goyf. It's not like its Deathrite Shaman.
I went with my Naya Zoo deck, without the Arid Mesas and Choke. I am planning on doing some brewing with Siege Zoo. Alright, now to the results of the night. I placed third tonight, I had an overall record of 2-1. Had a pretty small turn out, and my tiebreaker sucked since one of the opponents dropped making me get bucked down to third. The first match I went 2-0 against a strange Green Devotion. It wasn't a challenge for Zoo really, however she did flip an Eldrazi Conscription off an Goblin Guide trigger, which could of been interesting. The second match I went 1-2 and was against Four Color Gifts. Another grindy match and to be honest I wish my Chokes came in so I could of had them. I really feel that could of changed how the match would of gone overall. I won the first game with an explosive 10 damage turn. It was grindy and tried my best but I couldn't get the win as soon a Batterskull hit ;and stuck its self on the battlefield. The next match was a Blue/Red build, I ended up going 2-1 against. The first game I won on turn four, thats what happens when you get a playset of Lightning bolts.... which its a pretty good start on the damage train. On the second match I had to maul down to five and almost won the match. The final game it wasn't rough at all.
Overall I was happy, and had a few people being jealous that I was playing Zoo. It was a fun night.
As I play more I wish I could get Goyfs... anyone else has this problem. Its just so solid of an card. Maybe some time in the future I will be getting me a playset, lol, that is if the wife will ever allow me. I am planning on giving a stab at building Siege Zoo though.. I think it will catch my buddy off guard and allow me snatch a tourney victory and it just looks like fun
Hooting Mandrils are fine, but your missing a massive 2 drop. The deck is hard to replace goyf here, because when its a 4/5, with doran its a "5/5" for 2 mana, and the deck takes the control/midrange option against affinity, so it very much is like "turn 1 bolt, turn 2 goyf to block."
Edit: I think voice and pridemage are probably good, 2/2 split.
I can do voice and pridemages... i have enough that i could do that with... I have been wanting goyfs. I just can't afford the crazy price they are.
2x Arid Mesa
1x Kessig Wolf Run
1x Blood Crypt
1x Forest
2x Godless Shrine
1x Mountain
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Plains
1x Sacred Foundry
2x Stomping Ground
1x Swamp
1x Temple Garden
4x Verdant Catacombs
4x Windswept Heath
4x Wild Nacatl
3x Doran, the Siege Tower
4x Kird Ape
4x Knight of the Reliquary
4x Loam Lion
4x Siege Rhino
Instant
3x Abrupt Decay
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Lightning Helix
4x Path to Exile
1x Abrupt Decay
3x Aven Mindcensor
2x Choke
1x Loxodon Smiter
2x Slaughter Games
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
3x Timely Reinforcements
2x Wear / Tear
2x Arid Mesa
1x Blood Crypt
2x Breeding Pool
1x Forest
1x Godless Shrine
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Misty Rainforest
1x Plains
1x Steam Vents
1x Stomping Ground
1x Swamp
1x Temple Garden
4x Verdant Catacombs
2x Windswept Heath
2x Wooded Foothills
3x Doran, the Siege Tower
2x Geist of Saint Traft
4x Kird Ape
3x Knight of the Reliquary
3x Loxodon Smiter
4x Siege Rhino
4x Wild Nacatl
Instant
4x Abrupt Decay
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Lightning Helix
3x Path to Exile
2x Aven Mindcensor
3x Grafdigger's Cage
1x Path to Exile
3x Timely Reinforcements
4x Tribal Flames
2x Wear / Tear
Here is what I brew up real quick... Lantern I hope you don't mind but I used your deck as a base for it. I know that I don't have goyfs and they are so much an all-star. However that's why I decided to go with Abrupt Decay over Tribal Flames. Another reason is that this deck is hardcore Midrange, since there are a few more three drops than I normally run. This is a rough draft of a deck that I would like to run in my lil tourney next time I go.
@ Lantern I can't wait to see what's gonna be in MM2.. I think it's gonna be awesome and I assume full of epicness.
Yeah... I am wanting to get goyfs, but at the current price I will be not getting myself a playset anytime soon. However I did defend them when a person said that they should be banned. His reason was because of how big it gets for two mana, however we all said there a good amount of awnsers in the magic world for an out of control goyf. It's not like its Deathrite Shaman.
Overall I was happy, and had a few people being jealous that I was playing Zoo. It was a fun night.
I can do voice and pridemages... i have enough that i could do that with... I have been wanting goyfs. I just can't afford the crazy price they are.