FNM didn't go well, but I got 15th in the PPTQ last Sunday the 19th. I have another PPTQ next Saturday and I am working on a different build. I am trying to fit this card Monastery Siege into the build.
Alright, the PPTQ is this Sunday. This is a build that I will be testing tomorrow night at Modern FNM. If it does well(1st or 2nd place), I will be taking this build to the PPTQ. I've done my very best to make most of the match-ups easier with still keeping the same basic concept of the deck alive.
I dont really know to be honest. I dont own Snapcaster Mage in real life. Therefore he isn't in the deck. Geralf's Messenger just goes with the theme of the deck. If you want to build a list with Snapcaster Mage be my guest. Take it to FNMs and PPTQs and let us know how that works out for you. Geralf's Messenger may have some downsides to it, but so do a lot of cards. I wouldn't discard him so quickly he is easily in the top 5 of the strongest mono B cards in Modern.
These are just the situations I have run into. Collected Company decks can block/sac with Viscera Seer and you will never get through, then eventually they will find the combo and kill you. I run the deck in real life, not online. So I'm only speaking from that perspective. I don't know how the computer generates randomness with probability online so the deck may not play the same online like it does in real life. Then you have to take into account which cards you foil/don't foil, how old your sleeves are, and humidity in the card shop you are physically in.
Tombstalker really isn't about speed... I believe board presence is not as important as effective board presence. The Flying 5/5 for 1 extra mana is very very strong. You can leave Phyrexian Obliterator up and just swing over for 5. Gurmag Angler is good but for example in the situation where you are keeping a Tron Wurmcoil Engine from swinging at you with Phyrexian Obliterator the Tombstalker will just get in there for 5 where the Gurmag Angler will die.
I think this will get a serious bump when Languish comes out for good, in my testings I had many situations where
Damnation was a bad play but Languish would've won me the game.
How are Tombstalker and the Merchant with only 22 lands? What about Remands in place of Leak?
I haven't ran into any land issues, but like I said I will be testing the Gray Merchant of Asphodel this Friday. I doubt it will be an issue since they are just 1 of's. As far as Remand is concerned, I thought the extra draw power would be useful.
This primer needs some love or more detail. I'm possibly looking at deck like this, but it would be nice to see more people going in dept on their results etc.
I will definitely update it. Tonight I ran the Thought Scour version listed above and by far had the worst showing since I've built the deck. I went 2 and 3. I lost to Tron, Merfolk, and Esper Control. I beat Abzan and Grixis Delver. I am going to try a different version on Friday. It is listed below.
For all who was inquiring about a Thought Scour version of this deck. I did some long and hard thinking and this is what I came up with based on my experience with playing this deck.
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
2x Spellskite
4x Tarmogoyf
1x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2x Thing in the Ice
Lands
4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Overgrown Tomb
4x Polluted Delta
2x Creeping Tar Pit
2x Darkslick Shores
3x Watery Grave
5x Swamp
3x Liliana of the Veil
Instants
2x Abrupt Decay
1x Dispel
2x Remand
1x Shadow of Doubt
1x Spell Snare
2x Stubborn Denial
2x Victim of Night
Artifact
1x Engineered Explosives
Sorcery
4x Serum Visions
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
1x Languish
2x Thoughtseize
1x Batterskull
2x Countersquall
3x Disfigure
1x Dispel
1x Engineered Explosives
2x Flashfreeze
1x Illness in the Ranks
1x Languish
1x Shadow of Doubt
1x Spell Snare
1x Surgical Extraction
The new card Thing in the Ice combos well with Spellskite and Phyrexian Obliterator when he flips into Awoken Horror since both of them are Horror creatures as well.
4x Phyrexian Obliterator (NPH)
2x Spellskite (MM2)
4x Tarmogoyf (MM2)
1x Tasigur, the Golden Fang (FRF)
2x Thing in the Ice (SOI)
Lands
4x Bloodstained Mire (KTK)
2x Overgrown Tomb (RTR)
4x Polluted Delta (KTK)
2x Creeping Tar Pit (WWK)
2x Darkslick Shores
3x Watery Grave (GTC)
5x Swamp (UNH)
3x Liliana of the Veil (ISD)
Instants
2x Abrupt Decay (RTR)
1x Dispel (BFZ)
2x Remand (MM2)
1x Shadow of Doubt (RAV)
1x Spell Snare (MMA)
2x Stubborn Denial (KTK)
2x Victim of Night (ISD)
Artifact
1x Engineered Explosives (5DN)
Sorcery
4x Serum Visions (5DN)
3x Inquisition of Kozilek (MD1)
1x Languish (000)
2x Thoughtseize (THS)
1x Batterskull (000)
2x Countersquall *F* (CON)
3x Disfigure (ZEN)
1x Dispel (RTR)
1x Engineered Explosives (5DN)
2x Flashfreeze (M11)
1x Illness in the Ranks *F* (GTC)
1x Languish (000)
1x Shadow of Doubt (RAV)
1x Spell Snare (MMA)
1x Surgical Extraction *F* (000)
Shadows of Innistrad update...
The new card Thing in the Ice combos well with Spellskite and Phyrexian Obliterator when he flips into Awoken Horror since both of them are Horror creatures as well.
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
2x Spellskite
4x Tarmogoyf
1x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2x Thing in the Ice
0x Awoken Horror (FLIP)
Lands: 22
4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Overgrown Tomb
4x Polluted Delta
2x Creeping Tar Pit
2x Darkslick Shores
3x Watery Grave
5x Swamp
3x Liliana of the Veil
Instants: 11
2x Abrupt Decay
1x Dispel
2x Remand
1x Shadow of Doubt
1x Spell Snare
2x Stubborn Denial
2x Victim of Night
Artifact: 1
1x Engineered Explosives
Sorcery: 10
4x Serum Visions
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
1x Languish
2x Thoughtseize
1x Batterskull
2x Countersquall
3x Disfigure
1x Dispel
1x Engineered Explosives
2x Flashfreeze
1x Illness in the Ranks
1x Languish
1x Shadow of Doubt
1x Spell Snare
1x Surgical Extraction
Just play this build and use Tarmogoyf and Phyrexian Obliterator. I've been playing this build since last year when I saw Frank playing it on TCG. This is a solid build and the new card Thing in the Ice combos well with Spellskite and Phyrexian Obliterator when he flips into Awoken Horror since both of them are Horror creatures as well. I even have a Primer that I made when I first started playing it and shows different list of how the deck evolved.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/deck-creation-modern/615386-ub-midrange
4x Bloodstained Mire
3x Creeping Tar Pit
5x Swamp
3x Polluted Delta
3x Darkslick Shores
4x Watery Grave
Enchantment: 1
1x Monastery Siege
Sorcery: 12
2x Languish
4x Serum Visions
2x Thoughtseize
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
Instant: 13
3x Disfigure
3x Mana Leak
1x Murderous Cut
3x Victim of Night
1x Stubborn Denial
1x Spell Snare
1x Spell Pierce
1x Batterskull
Planeswalker: 3
3x Liliana of the Veil
Creature: 8
1x Tombstalker
1x Gurmag Angler
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
2x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
1x Monastery Siege
1x Illness in the Ranks
1x Night of Souls' Betrayal
1x Dispel
2x Flashfreeze
1x Damnation
2x Engineered Explosives
2x Countersquall
3x Fulminator Mage
1x Surgical Extraction
4x Bloodstained Mire
3x Creeping Tar Pit
5x Swamp
3x Polluted Delta
3x Darkslick Shores
2x Drowned Catacomb
3x Watery Grave
Sorcery: 12
2x Damnation
4x Serum Visions
2x Thoughtseize
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
3x Disfigure
3x Remand
2x Mana Leak
3x Victim of Night
1x Stubborn Denial
Planeswalker: 3
3x Liliana of the Veil
Creature: 10
3x Geralf's Messenger
1x Phyrexian Metamorph
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
2x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2x Shadow of Doubt
1x Illness in the Ranks
1x Dispel
1x Flashfreeze
1x Languish
2x Engineered Explosives
2x Countersquall
1x Spell Snare
1x Slaughter Pact
1x Grafdigger's Cage
1x Surgical Extraction
Alright, the PPTQ is this Sunday. This is a build that I will be testing tomorrow night at Modern FNM. If it does well(1st or 2nd place), I will be taking this build to the PPTQ. I've done my very best to make most of the match-ups easier with still keeping the same basic concept of the deck alive.
4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Creeping Tar Pit
5x Swamp
3x Polluted Delta
3x Darkslick Shores
2x Drowned Catacomb
2x Watery Grave
1x Blood Crypt
Sorcery: 12
2x Damnation
4x Serum Visions
2x Thoughtseize
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
2x Smother
1x Kolaghan's Command
4x Remand
3x Victim of Night
2x Stubborn Denial
Planeswalker: 3
3x Liliana of the Veil
Creature: 11
3x Geralf's Messenger
1x Gray Merchant of Asphodel
1x Tombstalker
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
2x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
1x Illness in the Ranks
2x Smother
2x Pyroclasm
2x Leyline of the Void
2x Engineered Explosives
1x Spell Snare
1x Kolaghan's Command
3x Fulminator Mage
1x Surgical Extraction
I haven't ran into any land issues, but like I said I will be testing the Gray Merchant of Asphodel this Friday. I doubt it will be an issue since they are just 1 of's. As far as Remand is concerned, I thought the extra draw power would be useful.
I will definitely update it. Tonight I ran the Thought Scour version listed above and by far had the worst showing since I've built the deck. I went 2 and 3. I lost to Tron, Merfolk, and Esper Control. I beat Abzan and Grixis Delver. I am going to try a different version on Friday. It is listed below.
4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Creeping Tar Pit
5x Swamp
3x Polluted Delta
3x Darkslick Shores
1x Drowned Catacomb
4x Watery Grave
Sorcery: 12
2x Damnation
4x Serum Visions
2x Thoughtseize
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
1x Spell Snare
1x Slaughter Pact
4x Remand
3x Victim of Night
3x Stubborn Denial
Planeswalker: 2
2x Liliana of the Veil
Creature: 12
3x Geralf's Messenger
1x Vendilion Clique
1x Gray Merchant of Asphodel
1x Tombstalker
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
2x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2x Shadow of Doubt
3x Disfigure
2x Fulminator Mage
1x Drown in Sorrow
2x Leyline of the Void
2x Engineered Explosives
2x Spellskite
1x Surgical Extraction
3x Bloodstained Mire
2x Creeping Tar Pit
5x Swamp
4x Polluted Delta
4x Darkslick Shores
4x Watery Grave
Sorcery: 12
2x Damnation
4x Serum Visions
2x Thoughtseize
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
Instant: 12
2x Remand
4x Victim of Night
3x Stubborn Denial
3x Thought Scour
2x Liliana of the Veil
Creature: 12
2x Vendilion Clique
2x Bloodghast
1x Gurmag Angler
1x Tombstalker
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
2x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2x Countersquall
2x Drown in Sorrow
2x Leyline of the Void
1x Slaughter Pact
3x Engineered Explosives
2x Spellskite
2x Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
2x Dispel
2x Hurkyl's Recall
1x Illness in the Ranks
For all who was inquiring about a Thought Scour version of this deck. I did some long and hard thinking and this is what I came up with based on my experience with playing this deck.
4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Creeping Tar Pit
5x Swamp
3x Polluted Delta
3x Darkslick Shores
1x Drowned Catacomb
4x Watery Grave
Sorcery: 11
2x Damnation
4x Serum Visions
2x Thoughtseize
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
2x Tragic Slip
2x Shadow of Doubt
3x Mana Leak
3x Victim of Night
3x Stubborn Denial
Planeswalker: 2
2x Liliana of the Veil
Creature: 12
2x Vendilion Clique
2x Geralf's Messenger
2x Gurmag Angler
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
2x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2x Countersquall
2x Drown in Sorrow
1x Gray Merchant of Asphodel
2x Leyline of the Void
1x Slaughter Pact
3x Engineered Explosives
1x Night of Souls' Betrayal
2x Spellskite
1x Surgical Extraction
You could drop an Inquisition of Kozilek and 1 Geralf's Messenger and add 2 Vendilion Clique if you want to test it. That would be where I would put them. Not to replace Liliana of the Veil though. You just need to be mindful when siding in cards like Night of Souls' Betrayal