so does Spirit of the Labyrinth work in a non-punishing fire list? the mana isn't so weak there, and Marsh Flats become better as a fetchland (i only point that out because i'm playing 4 alongside 4 mires and 3 verdents -- an availability thing). and if we're adding white, do we add souls, too?
Honestly I think its really close between 1 Huntmaster, the 4th Finks, and 3rd Voice. Its super close to the point that I wouldnt fault anyone for choosing one over the other. I like Huntmaster for these reasons:
1: He is two bodies and 2 life. So slightly better against zoo than Finks, because chances are finks just eats a Path.
2: He Threatens to take over the game by himself. He is a huge threat against UWx Control decks, and potentially fae. Forcing them to either have an answer or play spells on their own turn.
3: He is a 4 drop. So if you do have a finks out, and you still need extra life you can pod into him, and get 2 more blockers.
I agree. I cut Fauna Shaman for Huntmaster mainboard before Nacatl unbanning. I think he's just that good for us.
hey guys. new legacy player here. decided on Jund and working to finish my deck now. i've read the thread re: punishing v. non-punishing and have a general idea on the pros / cons of each. what's the updated word on choosing between them?
do I need 4 wasteland, or does that depend on punishing v. non-punishing? can i get away with using a set of flats, and if so do i need to get rid of the mountain?
finally, must i pick up a sylvan library? how necessary is it?
hey guys. i'm concerned for my sideboard in light of the recent DRS ban. i suspect we'll see a rise in GY strategies; e.g., Living End, Dredgevine, Snapcaster decks. right now my only real graveyard hate is a singleton mainboard scooze. do you think i should be slotting in at least 1 Relic into my sideboard, and if so, what goes? i'm thinking Fauna Shaman.
No, by all means. You cant afford cutting Linvala its like the best card against Bgx twin and the mirror!!!
so what do i cut? do i throw fauna shaman in the sideboard and bump my curve up with an extra 4-drop? keep in mind i am committed to trying 1 HMF main.
i'm trying to sneak a huntmaster of the fells into my list. i think it gives us midrange gas. going to try it at GP RVa, anyway. my question is about where to slot it in--do you think i can get away with 2 restoration angel rather than 3? i realize i'm cutting it fine because of its importance in a bunch of chains. here's the list as is:
Considering how many of my wins were by simple beatdown + slight toolboxing I'm still not sure about the grove. The nobles would make the deck a bit better though. I'm 100% sure about that^^
we take a ton of damage from fetch/shock/pod. grove's help us maintain our life total. super important.
makes me sad. i deconstructed UWR because it was no fun to play and built kiki-pod. i have a lot more fun but win a lot less. i don't know what we need to make it better. probably a ridiculous 2/3-drop threat.
i agree. i would probably side out both domri's against fae. probably linvala, too. what are we siding in? i'm thinking Fiery Justice, Harmonic Sliver, and Sigarda, Host of Herons.
also, what do you think about swapping Kiora's Follower for Wall of Roots in a non-chord list?
I agree. I cut Fauna Shaman for Huntmaster mainboard before Nacatl unbanning. I think he's just that good for us.
also, can you comment on my proposed manabase:
4 Marsh Flats
3 Bloodstained Mire
3 Wasteland
3 Badlands
2 Bayou
1 Taiga
1 Forest
1 Swamp
1 Mountain
do I need 4 wasteland, or does that depend on punishing v. non-punishing? can i get away with using a set of flats, and if so do i need to get rid of the mountain?
finally, must i pick up a sylvan library? how necessary is it?
thanks!
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Aven Mindcensor
3 Path to Exile
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Obstinate Baloth
1 Avalanche Riders
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Fiery Justice
so what do i cut? do i throw fauna shaman in the sideboard and bump my curve up with an extra 4-drop? keep in mind i am committed to trying 1 HMF main.
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Voice of Resurgence
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Spellskite
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Wall of Roots
1 Phantasmal Image
3 Kitchen Finks
2 Deceiver Exarch
1 Izzet Staticaster
2 Restoration Angel
1 Huntmaster of the Fells
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Glen Elendra, Archmage
1 Murderous Redcap
2 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 Zealous Conscripts
2 Domri Rade
23 Lands
we take a ton of damage from fetch/shock/pod. grove's help us maintain our life total. super important.
that was Turn 2 EMRAKUL.
makes me sad. i deconstructed UWR because it was no fun to play and built kiki-pod. i have a lot more fun but win a lot less. i don't know what we need to make it better. probably a ridiculous 2/3-drop threat.