The New deck post edits. Please comment on suggestions as to what should be changed and whether or not things should be increased, decreased or entirely eliminated. Just keep in mind that this is a completely standard deck that is in the making.
Seeing how I don't have the deck made as of yet it is kind of hard to see if I have a hard time in later games. With this deck mana is more of a concern for me than card draw. I see myself winning with this deck by no later than the seventh turn, especially if I get all the right cards I need. I agree that Arbor Colossus is a good choice for the deck. I also am looking for more instant style elimination considering rtr is about to phase out. But I will try the suggestions you have made
I need to develop a side deck to this but not sure what I should add. Please add cards that can deal with the current meta and are from Standard (M15, Theros Block, and Khans of Tarkir).
After much thought and seeing what a few of the cards in M15 can do particularly Garruk, Apex Predator can do, I am making my standard deck to more resemble this deck list:
As far as subbing cards when rotation happens, I need suggestions as to what I should replace Burning-Tree Emissary. Also what else would you change considering the over all meta of standard currently. Also, need help with a sideboard for the deck so I can deal with other decks from the meta. Would like to add some Garruk specific cards from M15. So any ideas to make this more of Garruk deck than a BG devotion deck, please make some suggestions. Please don't forget to link cards... it is all too easy.
After much thought and seeing what a few of the cards in M15 can do particularly Garruk, Apex Predator can do I am altering the deck significantly to something more like this:
As far as subbing cards when rotation happens, I need suggestions as to what I should replace Burning-Tree Emissary. Also what else would you change considering the over all meta of standard currently.
I have no issues with the decks you have made, I just would change one particular card in both instead of playing 4 Overgrown Tomb I personally would play 4 Temple of Malady instead considering with Khans of Torkir coming out in September, RtR block is soon to be phased out of standard. Also, I might change the black/green land to what is available in M15 if there is going to be a rare b/g land.
I welcome any suggestions to making this a slightly better deck than it is already, but I do find it enjoyable as is winnable as is.
I am a strong supporter of only playing All Is Dust after you're playing 4x Oblivion Stone. Oblivion Stone is superior in the majority of situations, and in the situations where it's better it's often way better than All Is Dust, whereas in the situations where All is Dust is better it tends to be just a bit better than Oblivion Stone. If you really want 5 sweepers, 4x Oblivion Stone/1x All Is Dust is the superior option.
You should be playing 4x Karn Liberated.
If you're running Slaughter Games in the sideboard (which I support), you should be running a land that produces Black mana, Llanowar Wastes being the most popular choice. You need a more dependable way to get that mana for when you have Slaughter Games than the Chromatics. Normally one replaces a Forest with it.
I've never seen anyone play It That Betrays in Tron before. What's your reasoning for it in the sideboard? It seems a bit of a waste.
As far as the Oblivion Stone versus' All is Dust it is a matter of preference. For the Slaughter Games I appreciate the suggestion of using Llanowar Wastes. As far as running two Karn Liberated instead of four is when ever dealing with legendaries and/or planeswalkers I always go with at most two considering after shuffling they tend to clump up and I get either all or almost all of them in one clump. As far as running It that Betrays it is to combo off of All is Dust and use the opponents own creatures, enchantments, and artifacts against them for people who run creature based decks.
First let me state this deck is for a friend that has asked for my help. She has issues with a particular deck another friend has and wants to be able to win at least a few times against rather than being utterly annihilated each and every time she plays. Now that that is out of the way lets get to what she wants to be able to do with said deck. She did express interest in a poison/infect deck that could possibly beat his deck.
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Temple of Malady
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
8 Forest
6 Swamp
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Sylvan Caryatid
4 Courser of Kruphix
4 Karametra's Acolyte
2 Nylea, God of the Hunt
2 Polukranos, World Eater
4 Arbor Colossus
2 Hydra Broodmaster
2 Nissa, Worldwaker
Spells
4 Heroes' Bane
2 Read the Bones
4 Thoughtseize
Sideboard to soon follow, but this is the deck thus far and has gained me quite a few wins and losses (8 wins 3 losses)
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Temple of Malady
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
8 Forest
4 Swamp
Creatures 21
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Genesis Hydra
4 Sylvan Caryatid
4 Courser of Kruphix
2 Nylea, God of the Hunt
3 Arbor Colossus
3 Garruk, Apex Predator
4 Nissa, Worldwaker
Spells 10
4 Hero's Downfall
2 Read the Bones
4 Thoughtseize
2 Heroes' Bane
2 Nylea's Disciple
2 Rakshasa Deathdealer
2 Reaper of the Wilds
2 Lash of the Whip
3 Setessan Tactics
2 Drown in Sorrow
My final deck edit, hope this thing works, time to start purchasing almost the entirety of this deck.
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Temple of Malady
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
8 Forest
4 Swamp
Creatures 21
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Sylvan Caryatid
4 Courser of Kruphix
2 Pharika, God of Affliction
4 Polukranos, World Eater
3 Arbor Colossus
3 Garruk, Apex Predator
4 Nissa, Worldwaker
Spells 10
4 Hero's Downfall
2 Read the Bones
4 Thoughtseize
2 Genesis Hydra
2 Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
2 Nylea's Disciple
2 Reaper of the Wilds
2 Lash of the Whip
3 Setessan Tactics
2 Drown in Sorrow
The New deck post edits. Please comment on suggestions as to what should be changed and whether or not things should be increased, decreased or entirely eliminated. Just keep in mind that this is a completely standard deck that is in the making.
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Temple of Malady
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
8 Forest
4 Swamp
Creatures 21
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Sylvan Caryatid
4 Courser of Kruphix
2 Pharika, God of Affliction
4 Polukranos, World Eater
3 Arbor Colossus
3 Garruk, Apex Predator
4 Nissa, Worldwaker
Spells 10
4 Hero's Downfall
3 Read the Bones
3 Throttle
4 Lash of the Whip
3 Nylea's Disciple
3 Genesis Hydra
3 Setessan Tactics
2 Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
I need to develop a side deck to this but not sure what I should add. Please add cards that can deal with the current meta and are from Standard (M15, Theros Block, and Khans of Tarkir).
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Temple of Malady
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
8 Forest
4 Swamp
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Sylvan Caryatid
4 Courser of Kruphix
2 Pharika, God of Affliction
4 Polukranos, World Eater
3 Soul of Zendikar
3 Garruk, Apex Predator
4 Nissa, Worldwaker
Spells 10
3 Feast of Dreams
3 Plummet
4 Hero's Downfall
Final edit unless I should add or take away certain cards
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Temple of Malady
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
12 Forests
Creatures 21
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Sylvan Caryatid
4 Courser of Kruphix
2 Pharika, God of Affliction
4 Polukranos, World Eater
3 Soul of Zendikar
3 Garruk, Apex Predator
4 Nissa, Worldwaker
Spells 10
2 Feast of Dreams
2 Ultimate Price
2 Plummet
3 Hero's Downfall
1 Putrefy
As far as subbing cards when rotation happens, I need suggestions as to what I should replace Burning-Tree Emissary. Also what else would you change considering the over all meta of standard currently. Also, need help with a sideboard for the deck so I can deal with other decks from the meta. Would like to add some Garruk specific cards from M15. So any ideas to make this more of Garruk deck than a BG devotion deck, please make some suggestions. Please don't forget to link cards... it is all too easy.
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Sylvan Caryatid
2 Voyaging Satyr
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Courser of Kruphix
2 Pharika, God of Affliction
4 Polukranos, World Eater
3 Soul of Zendikar
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Temple of Malady
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
12 Forests
3 Life's Legacy
As far as subbing cards when rotation happens, I need suggestions as to what I should replace Burning-Tree Emissary. Also what else would you change considering the over all meta of standard currently.
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
3 Wurmcoil Engine
2 Spellskite
Artifacts (17):
4 Expedition Map
4 Chromatic Star
4 Chromatic Sphere
2 Relic of Progenitus
3 Oblivion Stone
Sorceries (12):
4 Sylvan Scrying
4 Ancient Stirrings
3 Pyroclasm
1 All Is Dust
4 Karn Liberated
Land (20):
4 Urza's Tower
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
2 Forest
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Eye of Ugin
1 Pyroclasm
1 Wurmcoil Engine
2 Relic of Progenitus
4 Nature's Claim
1 Oblivion Stone
2 Combust
1 Dismember
2 Stone Rain
1 Slaughter Games
This is originally Lord Seth's deck but needed to make a few changes to the sideboard to appease my need to get rid of the Torpor Orb
As far as the Oblivion Stone versus' All is Dust it is a matter of preference. For the Slaughter Games I appreciate the suggestion of using Llanowar Wastes. As far as running two Karn Liberated instead of four is when ever dealing with legendaries and/or planeswalkers I always go with at most two considering after shuffling they tend to clump up and I get either all or almost all of them in one clump. As far as running It that Betrays it is to combo off of All is Dust and use the opponents own creatures, enchantments, and artifacts against them for people who run creature based decks.
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
3 Wurmcoil Engine
2 Spellskite
Artifacts:
4 Expedition Map
4 Chromatic Star
4 Chromatic Sphere
2 Relic of Progenitus
3 Oblivion Stone
Sorcs:
4 Sylvan Scrying
4 Ancient Stirrings
4 Pyroclasm
2 All Is Dust
2 Karn Liberated
Land:
4 Urza's Tower
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
2 Forest
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Eye of Ugin
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Relic of Progenitus
4 Nature's Claim
2 It That Betrays
2 Combust
1 Dismember
2 Stone Rain
2 Slaughter Games
I welcome any suggestions to making this a slightly better deck than it is already, but I do find it enjoyable as is winnable as is.
Ashk'rya, what would you subsitute and how many of each do you recommend of each?