With what is essentially a turbo xerox deck winning the last SCG Open, I really do not think Preordain or Ponder are coming off the banned list anytime soon, if ever.
Interestingly, both Tron and KCI are almost turbo xerox themselves because of Stirrings, the Chromatic cards, Ichor Wellspring, Expedition Map, and others.
What is Turbo Xerox? I've seen it describe Vintage decks, Legacy, and now Modern, but all the decks look very different.
When one of the most notorious control players tells you splinter twin is miserable to play against and should stay banned, pay attention.
When Pro's tell us Jace will ruin the format...wait hows this supposed to work?
Wow, and that article is an absolute lie...normally I like Shaheen, but Modern was absolutely not 'flailing at the time in popularity'.
Top 10 Anime Betrayals...
Yeah, it's difficult to take this article seriously, even more when he states that Ponder and Preordain are safe unbans but Punishing Fire would be too good when paired with Grove of the Burnwillows
Exactly what I was going to chime in and say. While I personally think that Ponder is safe to unban, a lot of players and presumably Wizards of the Coast, doesn't like seeing the format become more "Turbo Xerox" in any shape or form. Ponder is strong enough to make it lean towards that.
Also, Shaheen Soorani doesn't like Twin. That much is obvious. Not sure why out of a lifetime Esper/UW Control player, whose matchup vs. Twin wouldn't be as good as something like Grixis, but still should be fine. While Twin can play out like a Control deck, it is mostly a tempo deck that has a Combo finish. That's part of what made it so strong; so many dimensions.
agree i even remember that some great GBx players (duke? edel?) say that BGx vs twin was a 50/50 match up when the pilot was good
I recently finished building Dredge and am having a blast with the deck so far, but I'm really needing an option that is less graveyard based for when my local meta inevitably overcorrects and starts running absurd amounts of graveyard hate.
Ideally if like to try something new, and while I'm open to buying the cards I need I'd like to limit my budget to around $600. Previously I've played Storm, Death and Taxes, UW Control, Titanshift, Affinity, Merfolk, Esper Draw Go, and Mardu Pyromancer.
Currently the options I'm looking at are Merfolk, Ad Nauseam, Titanshift, Infect, or some sort of absurd tier 3 jank that I can relax with on my weeks off Dredge. Probably something like 7 Land Belcher. Absurd, yes? Glass cannon? Also yes. Bad deck? Absolutely. Still fun though.
Mostly just looking for opinions or suggestions. I'd like to stay in the realm of combo decks if possible, Merfolk is the exception as I really enjoyed that deck the last time I played it.
Ad Nauseum is the best creatureless combo deck in modern (and i would say it was the best combo deck until storm got new toys, like baral)
for tier 3 combo (to me land belcher is no tier since i dont think have put any real result in tournament) i like Jeskai Ascendancy combo because i love palying Glittering Wish in combo. Other than that, there are several tier 3 decks that are build around a card ( Soulflayer, Kiln Fiend infect like, Saheeli/cat like twin...etc).
pd: i forgot seismic swans! pretty funny deck IMHO
I want to get some advice which deck might be a good choice for midrange.
I got Bg elves right now (including caverns).
But I wanted to invest for a midrange deck to have 2 avaible modern decks.
RG ponza and mardu pyromancer I'm interested the most with. (moderns deadguy ale also, since I played it.. but sold it 2 years ago or so)
what are your thoughts on these decks?
rg ponza i would love to play BBE, but some say its sometimes very dissapointing because of bad variance
pyromancer I dont know if the powerlvl is that fine
deadguy hasnt got a good finisher
own: 1 LtlH, 3 assassins trophy, singletons fetches because edh, souls, IoKs, fatal pushes, the shocklands
nothing so much that it leads drastictly into any direction
rly difficult for me. Aiming for bg rock is a long way for the whole package of LotV, goyf and confidant
any advice would be great guys
If you really enjoy midrange, play mardu pyromancer! i believe you are on the "i would play jund but lilis/tarmo are too expensive" train, so mardu pyromancer is an excellent choice, RG ponza is a great deck, but "can play BBE" is not a good argument for playing it (its more a blood moon deck that deny basic with land destruction)
tron: t3 karn
storm: have baral, resolve gifts ungiven, untap, win
amulet titan: drops lands, win (with some help hehe)
Hardened Scales: affinity on crack...win match 1 and lose 2 & 3 to hate, unless you are a great player
From what I have heard the set did not sell as well as other sets, not a lot of people wanted to open the boxes. So there is a chance it is going to see a similar fate as Kamigawa and Lowryn.
But the setting, disconnected from gameplay, was popular, wasn't it? Kamigawa failed in both gameplay and worldbuilding.
powerful creatures that are hard to remove= green!
forms of control to keep my opponent from= disruption = black (proactive/ discard or blue (reactive /counterspell)
So i think green splash blue/black would be a good starting poin for you (get mtg arena, you can test if you like the deck or not!)
powerful creatures that are hard to remove= green!
forms of control to keep my opponent from= disruption = black (proactive/ discard or blue (reactive /counterspell)
So i think green splash blue/black would be a good starting poin for you (get mtg arena, you can test if you like the deck or not!)
Thanks! Ad Nauseam seems appealing but i wonder if it would get old quickly. What are some pros and cons of ad naus over storm? And would it get old?
both are "age proof" to me, they have been always there (from tier 1 to tier 4). about pro and con...well
Ad nauseam is a+b combo (Ad Nauseam+ either Angel's Grace/Phyrexian Unlife), all the other cards are search for the combo, generate mana to play the combo faster, protect the combo, and go all in. you dont have plan b (well you have Laboratory Maniac), is better against midrange without disruption, other combos, and control, UW control have a hard time against instant combo decks. Burn is a bye.
Storm is more grindy, is slower but resilient, you have better tools against diruption, and if you can cast Gifts Ungiven you probably won.
Both are pretty hard to play, sure G1 is easy, but G2 and G3 need a godly pilot to play against hate.
IMHO If storm is hallow one( grindy Graveyard aggro deck), ad nauseam is Vengevine (all in graveyard aggro deck). I think that there is plenty of disruption right now in modern, and thats why storm is a better choice...today.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/ub-trippin’-2005-04-21
in short: low number of lands, high number of cantrips, with a couple of cheap threats and usually some disruption
agree i even remember that some great GBx players (duke? edel?) say that BGx vs twin was a 50/50 match up when the pilot was good
Ad Nauseum is the best creatureless combo deck in modern (and i would say it was the best combo deck until storm got new toys, like baral)
for tier 3 combo (to me land belcher is no tier since i dont think have put any real result in tournament) i like Jeskai Ascendancy combo because i love palying Glittering Wish in combo. Other than that, there are several tier 3 decks that are build around a card ( Soulflayer, Kiln Fiend infect like, Saheeli/cat like twin...etc).
pd: i forgot seismic swans! pretty funny deck IMHO
If you really enjoy midrange, play mardu pyromancer! i believe you are on the "i would play jund but lilis/tarmo are too expensive" train, so mardu pyromancer is an excellent choice, RG ponza is a great deck, but "can play BBE" is not a good argument for playing it (its more a blood moon deck that deny basic with land destruction)
caverns right now, nobles can wait
storm: have baral, resolve gifts ungiven, untap, win
amulet titan: drops lands, win (with some help hehe)
Hardened Scales: affinity on crack...win match 1 and lose 2 & 3 to hate, unless you are a great player
do you have a quote/source on that?
cheap and competitive? UR storm, its a 300 combo deck that can win a GP right now, but i dont think you have anything right now.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-storm-46456#paper
with the cards you have i believe you can make skred red, a mono red control deck, while not a good meta choice right now, is always a tier 3 deck that can win if your meta is full of aggro creatures (humans/bant spirits)
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/established-modern/control/718932-skred-red
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/562904#paper
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/36462_Modern-Mayhem--Skred-Red-.html
IMHO jeskai (the build with geist, snap+bolt)for reference:
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=14429&writer=Craig Wescoe&articledate=2-2-2018
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-jeskai-control-40120#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-jeskai-tempo-60112#paper
pd: some cards are rotating in one month, see https://whatsinstandard.com/ for more details
forms of control to keep my opponent from= disruption = black (proactive/ discard or blue (reactive /counterspell)
So i think green splash blue/black would be a good starting poin for you (get mtg arena, you can test if you like the deck or not!)
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-blue-green-stompy#paper
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-mono-green-stompy-50868#paper
(note that both are almost mono green with splash for disruption, duress and negate are the key card in sideboard)
well, Maelstrom Pulse is a "generic destroy" if you dont play 2 already
both are "age proof" to me, they have been always there (from tier 1 to tier 4). about pro and con...well
Ad nauseam is a+b combo (Ad Nauseam+ either Angel's Grace/Phyrexian Unlife), all the other cards are search for the combo, generate mana to play the combo faster, protect the combo, and go all in. you dont have plan b (well you have Laboratory Maniac), is better against midrange without disruption, other combos, and control, UW control have a hard time against instant combo decks. Burn is a bye.
Storm is more grindy, is slower but resilient, you have better tools against diruption, and if you can cast Gifts Ungiven you probably won.
Both are pretty hard to play, sure G1 is easy, but G2 and G3 need a godly pilot to play against hate.
IMHO If storm is hallow one( grindy Graveyard aggro deck), ad nauseam is Vengevine (all in graveyard aggro deck). I think that there is plenty of disruption right now in modern, and thats why storm is a better choice...today.
for more info look at the premier here
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/established-modern/combo/564710-ur-storm
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/established-modern/combo/221735-ad-nauseam