I don't know, every time a Mox got spoiled in the last few years, people were initially saying how bad it is, and it always ended up playable somewhere. Free mana for 0 always ended up good, no matter the restrictions.
Yeah, I can picture the arguments:
Chrome Mox - "You have to exile a card, and risk getting 2-for-1ed. Total jank." Mox Opal - "You have to get three whole artifacts on the battlefield. Unplayable garbage."
That's literally how those two cards were perceived when they were originally spoiled. Today, Chrome Mox is a $40 card and Mox Opal is $100 (and the Kaladesh version is $300).
I think people are seriously underrating this card, especially with the preponderance of ways to cheat things like this into play in non-rotating formats.
Because those can accelerate a Chalice of the Void on 1 or similar things on turn 1. This cannot. On turn 4 (and that's assuming you play it on curve) you already have full Tron if you want to be cheating on mana.
(...) and then proceed to cite an outlier from a random-ass standard deck (...)
Yeah, safe to say at this point you're just trolling. Baiting someone with something irrelevant to the format in question (Modern, as in, you know, Modern Horizons) and acting all like "I was merely pretending to be dumb" while disregarding the rest of the argument while at the same time spamming the forum with some random emoji sure makes you right. Ignore and move on.
Sorry, I can't be bothered to look up quotes to prove my points to random strangers on the internet. Take my word for it, or not, I don't care. I know I'm right.
Oh, and a Jeskai Superfriends deck running 2 Mox Amber placed first in SCG Syracuse. I guess you'll just blow that off as well.
Lmao, you want to defend an argument but don't want to provide proofs for it other than "you know you're right" and then proceed to cite an outlier from a random-ass standard deck that didn't even run the full playset as if it's in any shape or size relevant to Modern. You sure convinced everyone with those hot opinions there.
i haven't seen them print many cards in this set that are adjuncts and improvements for the top modern decks either (maybe the Welder variant is interesting for the Prison players?); the angle they seem to be taking is to bombard us with starting points for new decks! they are very clearly trying to establish modern slivers and slide from what we already know!
if the set relied on reprints what you'd have is a watered-down Legacy.
I dunno man, several of the cards look like they will have an impact on modern, so far we've had:
Lots of people thought Chrome Mox was bad (card disadvantage).
Lots of people though Mox Opal was bad, or at least not powerful (too slow)
Mox Amber is certainly not unplayable.
Mox Tantalite... time will show.
Where's the proof tho. Just saying "yeah people thought this and Mox Amber is not unplayable and Tantalite will be played in some uncertain future" when you have a post history and search tool to look through, Standard and Modern results with zero (0) Ambers aside from some random 5-0 meme deck in Standard, and Lotus Bloom in the same cardpool isn't cutting it.
Then again, these are the same people that were decrying that Champion of Rhonas was a Modern playable card because "historically cheating permanents into play has always been a powerful effect" so I don't know what I was expecting.
This is a pretty good one. I even prefer it to Engineered Plague since it can be cheatedintoplay, sometimes evenuncounterable, can attack or block, trade up thanks to Deathtouch, and even if they remove it you already got value by taking out several X/1s. Solid card all around.
Chrome Mox - "You have to exile a card, and risk getting 2-for-1ed. Total jank." Mox Opal - "You have to get three whole artifacts on the battlefield. Unplayable garbage." Mox Amber - "You need to have a legendary creature or planeswalker on the battlefield. Jaaaaank." Mox Tantalite - "You have to wait three whole turns!? JAAAAAANK!"
I wonder how many players deride Lotus Bloom for the same reason.
Yeah, nah. Quote me exactly in which posts Chrome and Opal were deemed unplayable. Amber IS indeed unplayable jank, even in Standard, and this needed Suspend 1 to be even remotely playable. I wonder how it's always people who don't even play modern the ones that complain the loudest about "people complaining" and thinking card are absurdly busted because they share part of their name with another busted card while reposting meme rhetoric like this. Do you think Cabal Therapist is also good because it's a callback to Cabal Therapy?
Now this begs the question: what cards can help sneak this into play w/in the first 3 turns w/ having to suspend it?
The real question is why would you want to use cheat spells with a pseudo land as a payoff instead of casting things like Ancestral Vision and the rest of its cycle.
This one might be good, a 2/1 for 1 baseline feels good enough, but the protection should've been starting at level 2 and being a 3/3 to curve it into protecting itself. Which kind of deck wants this?
This is strictly worse than all the other moxen, and any other artifact ramp worth playing for that matter. If I have to wait 3 turns for a card to be playable, it had better win me the game.
I'm sure it will be a bomb in limited, but it won't see constructed play.
Lots of chaff/filler in this set so far. Hopefully we get some REAL spoilers soon.
Because those can accelerate a Chalice of the Void on 1 or similar things on turn 1. This cannot. On turn 4 (and that's assuming you play it on curve) you already have full Tron if you want to be cheating on mana.
Yeah, safe to say at this point you're just trolling. Baiting someone with something irrelevant to the format in question (Modern, as in, you know, Modern Horizons) and acting all like "I was merely pretending to be dumb" while disregarding the rest of the argument while at the same time spamming the forum with some random emoji sure makes you right. Ignore and move on.
Lmao, you want to defend an argument but don't want to provide proofs for it other than "you know you're right" and then proceed to cite an outlier from a random-ass standard deck that didn't even run the full playset as if it's in any shape or size relevant to Modern. You sure convinced everyone with those hot opinions there.
Rofl, stopped reading at Goblin War Party
Where's the proof tho. Just saying "yeah people thought this and Mox Amber is not unplayable and Tantalite will be played in some uncertain future" when you have a post history and search tool to look through, Standard and Modern results with zero (0) Ambers aside from some random 5-0 meme deck in Standard, and Lotus Bloom in the same cardpool isn't cutting it.
Then again, these are the same people that were decrying that Champion of Rhonas was a Modern playable card because "historically cheating permanents into play has always been a powerful effect" so I don't know what I was expecting.
Yeah, nah. Quote me exactly in which posts Chrome and Opal were deemed unplayable. Amber IS indeed unplayable jank, even in Standard, and this needed Suspend 1 to be even remotely playable. I wonder how it's always people who don't even play modern the ones that complain the loudest about "people complaining" and thinking card are absurdly busted because they share part of their name with another busted card while reposting meme rhetoric like this. Do you think Cabal Therapist is also good because it's a callback to Cabal Therapy?
Yes, if you read the other thread you'll notice that I liked the 2/1 mythic wurm thing, but ad hominem is far easier to pull off I guess.
The real question is why would you want to use cheat spells with a pseudo land as a payoff instead of casting things like Ancestral Vision and the rest of its cycle.
Is it really satire anymore if it's true?