I've been having problems playing Legacy Manaless Dredge on MTGO. When I activate Phantasmagorian's ability, I'm prompted to click and select 3 cards to select. The problem is, I'm not given a choice as to the order they go into the graveyard--which is relevant for Nether Shadow--and the cards don't even enter the graveyard consistently depending on where they are in my hand or what order I click on them.
i.e. Sometimes I click on Nether Shadow first and it goes in first, sometimes, second, sometimes third. Where it is in my hand doesn't consistently affect the order either. There seems to be no rhyme or reason and I don't know what I'm missing. Has anyone else had this problem with Phantasmagorian, or other similar cards that discard cards?
It shouldn't be a problem, if the token cards are clearly distinguishable from the cards in your deck, like having different colored sleeves or no sleeves. However, to avoid any issues, ask the judge prior to the tournament about wether they are allowed.
I'm putting together a pillow fort deck with tons of enchantments and I'm looking for cards to protect my lock. I'm open to any type of effect, whether it's hexproof or shroud like Sterling Grove and Greater Auramancy, things like Replenish or Karmic Justice, something like Nevermore, etc. Extra helpful if it has some utility against combo like Nevermore does. I'd like enchantments but it's not at all required. Thanks.
If Ichorid is in your graveyard at the beginning of your upkeep, its second ability triggers, and while that ability is on the stack, Ichorid is exiled from your graveyard, do you still have the option to exile a black creature card from your graveyard? I know that when the ability resolves, Ichorid won't be in the graveyard so you can't return it to the battlefield, but I'm unsure if you can still remove the black creature card for whatever reason.
Great, thanks so much. Am I correct, then, that when the Estrid's Invocation is exiled and comes back, it's no longer an Elephant Grass? For instance, if you were unable or unwilling to pay the original Elephant Grass's cumulative upkeep cost and sacrifice it, the following upkeep your Estrid's Invocation wouldn't be able to come back as an Elephant Grass.
The interaction is essentially that you get a *2nd* Elephant Grass, one that you don't have to pay for cumulative upkeep for, but only if you keep the original around, so there's no interaction that gives you an Elephant Grass without a cumulative upkeep.
Is there some favorable interaction with Solitary Confinement? There's no real benefit of stacking them, so I'm unclear on what the favorable interaction is if my understanding of the Estrid's Invocation/Elephant Grass-style upkeep trigger interaction is correct.
Apologies if this is obvious or has already been asked. I couldn't find anything.
Estrid's Invocation's ruling says, "Once Estrid’s Invocation returns, it’s considered a new object with no relation to the object that it was. You must choose an enchantment that’s currently on the battlefield to copy (or to not copy anything). Auras that were attached to it will be put into their owners’ graveyards. Any counters that were on it cease to exist."
I assumed that meant that it returns to the battlefield either as a copy of something on the battlefield when it returns, or as an uncopied Estrid's Invocation without the ability. But then I was ready Legacy Enchantress stuff and people were talking about "free" Elephant Grass if you stack the triggers the right way. Does that mean that you can let the first Elephant Grass die, and you can keep exiling the copy and returning it as the Elephant Grass copy without paying the cost? Or does it indeed lose its Elephant Grass identity when it's exiled and returns. Maybe they meant that you get a "free" one if you keep paying the cumulative upkeep of the original Elephant Grass. I find this card very confusing.
I've been having problems playing Legacy Manaless Dredge on MTGO. When I activate Phantasmagorian's ability, I'm prompted to click and select 3 cards to select. The problem is, I'm not given a choice as to the order they go into the graveyard--which is relevant for Nether Shadow--and the cards don't even enter the graveyard consistently depending on where they are in my hand or what order I click on them.
i.e. Sometimes I click on Nether Shadow first and it goes in first, sometimes, second, sometimes third. Where it is in my hand doesn't consistently affect the order either. There seems to be no rhyme or reason and I don't know what I'm missing. Has anyone else had this problem with Phantasmagorian, or other similar cards that discard cards?
Great, thanks.
For example, using Mons's Goblin Raiders cards as tokens for Empty the Warrens.
It would have the same color and power/toughness, and nothing in the text box but flavor text, to avoid confusion.
Ooh, I really like that one. Flexible.
Nice, I hadn't come across that card.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
The interaction is essentially that you get a *2nd* Elephant Grass, one that you don't have to pay for cumulative upkeep for, but only if you keep the original around, so there's no interaction that gives you an Elephant Grass without a cumulative upkeep.
Is there some favorable interaction with Solitary Confinement? There's no real benefit of stacking them, so I'm unclear on what the favorable interaction is if my understanding of the Estrid's Invocation/Elephant Grass-style upkeep trigger interaction is correct.
Estrid's Invocation's ruling says, "Once Estrid’s Invocation returns, it’s considered a new object with no relation to the object that it was. You must choose an enchantment that’s currently on the battlefield to copy (or to not copy anything). Auras that were attached to it will be put into their owners’ graveyards. Any counters that were on it cease to exist."
I assumed that meant that it returns to the battlefield either as a copy of something on the battlefield when it returns, or as an uncopied Estrid's Invocation without the ability. But then I was ready Legacy Enchantress stuff and people were talking about "free" Elephant Grass if you stack the triggers the right way. Does that mean that you can let the first Elephant Grass die, and you can keep exiling the copy and returning it as the Elephant Grass copy without paying the cost? Or does it indeed lose its Elephant Grass identity when it's exiled and returns. Maybe they meant that you get a "free" one if you keep paying the cumulative upkeep of the original Elephant Grass. I find this card very confusing.
Notable: Aether Vial, Trinisphere, 4 Palace Jailer, no Chalice of the Void
2 Ballyrush Banneret
4 Captain of the Watch
4 Daru Warchief
4 Enlistment Officer
4 Palace Jailer
4 Preeminent Captain
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
4 Aether Vial
4 Chrome Mox
4 Trinisphere
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2 Karakas
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
8 Plains
4 Brave the Elements
3 Grafdigger's Cage
4 Mindbreak Trap
4 Selfless Squire
Elves has a fairly positive match up against both Burn and Delver.
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