My favorite Magic card is Saproling Burst.
I used to run it in a mono-green legacy deck that would tear the pants off most other legacy decks, despite those decks being many times more valuable than my own. Creature generation on an enchantment - yes please!
Also, it was my first foil card.
Chili:
1) I play against quite a bit of MLD and nonbasic LD, so I've found Darksteel Ingot to be quite important.
2) Fierce Empath is a card I've definitely considered, and I might test it next week to see how it would go. What would you suggest to cut to make room?
3) I considered Crystal Shard when I was first making the deck; however, I've found that by the time I'm wanting to protect/recast my creatures, I need to be on the offensive. Putting the card back in my hand slows me down for a turn, even if it will save my creature. None of my creatures, save maybe my finishers in Angel of Serenity and Luminate Primordial, are cards that I cannot live without.
4) Sea Gate Oracle is a card I've definitely been considering, especially since I've recently cut a 2 CMC creature in Snapcaster Mage. What would you cut for it?
5) Soul of the Harvest is another card I had in my original list but did not make the cut. Usually I'm finishing the game with Rite of Replication on one of my fatties, unblockable creatures with Thassa, God of the Sea, or board lock with Glen Elendra Archmage. If I find myself needing to finish the game more quickly, I might take another look at this guy.
Wombat:
1) Hrm, I thought Wood Elves was already in my list, thanks for pointing that out! I'll cut a rock for it, or maybe Courser of Kruphix. What would you cut?
2) I agree with you to an extent, and I'm considering adding Sea Gate Oracle, but I rarely find myself struggling against aggro in my meta. Thankfully I also have a lot of outs with 2 sweepers, Ixidron, and Spike Weaver.
3 and 4) I'm a forum n00b and I have Green Sun's Zenith in my list, but I'd put a "1X" in front of it, so it didn't show. Good call!
5) I had a few lifegain creatures in the original list. I had Trostani, Selesnya's Voice and Thragtusk but my meta is such that I'm generally not losing by combat damage. If the meta changes, I will be sure to take another look at these types of cards.
1) Exsanguinate is great and I had it in my list, but I'm a relative forum n00b and I put "1X" before it, so it didn't show up. Same with Read the Runes. I've fixed those.
2) Yeah I have a Zombie Master but I've found him unimpressive and have cut him. But that baron you showed me looks good - have you tried him? Deathtouch seems very relevant.
3) Very true regarding enchantment/artifact problems. I haven't picked up an Oblivion Stone yet, but I probably will. When I get it, I might switch out the spine for it. Have you tested them both? In grixis colors, how many of those types of removal do you run? I only ask because I have a few tutors, so I'm wondering if having tutors can decrease the amount of slots that removal take up.
4) I never knew about Crypt of Agadeem, I might look into picking one up. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx was in my original list, but I took it out since my creatures generally don't last very long. As I playtest further, I'll see if my feelings change on that.
5) Muddle the Mixture looks very good! My only issue with it is that it's double blue mana cost, which will be difficult to cast early on given my mana base. However, you're right in that it's a counter and pseudo tutor when needed. I might try it out.
6) Yeah I'll try out the warhammer this week. Seems like it would be great.
7) Generally my fodder is eaten up very quickly, so I'm not sure if Sadistic Hypnotist will work. I had Cruel Ultimatum in my original list, but like you said, I found it it a bit lackluster in this list.
Haha good call, I've had Perplexing Chimera in my deck but it somehow was left off my list. I agree - it's fantastic!
True, that's not a bad scenario, but remember that bouncing Prime Speaker Zegana with Roon out will draw you even more and require less cards to do so. My main draw engine is flickering Zegana or Mulldrifter, both of which require less cards than the clamp scenario above. Bonus: both Zegana and Mulldrifter are recurrable with Reveillark, tutorable with Birthing Pod and Eladamri's Call, and are free card draw with Conjurer's Closet.
It's a close call, just play with the clamp and let me know what you think after some testing.
Omega, thanks for the feedback. You're right, I've had my eyes peeled for Undead Warchief, and I didn't even know about Death Baron. Thanks!
As to the Spine and friends, those are great cards to go with it. I put in Spine of Ish Sah mostly as recognition to the fact that I'm weak to some artifact/enchantment control strategies (Humility, Moat, Crawlspace to name a few), but so far in my meta they haven't been a problem. I'm considering taking out the Spine, but if I don't, I will definitely consider adding the core and the post.
Finally, as to Braids, Cabal Minion, I'm still on the fence about it. It's another card that attempts to answer permanents that I can't otherwise get rid of, and so far she's been a great way to draw out removal, but she isn't a zombie and I'm not sure if I want to keep her, since the removal is not targeted. I'm considering doing Oblivion Stone and then just tutoring for that if I run to artifact/enchantment problems. Your thoughts?
Hey spent, thanks for the feedback.
First, regarding Ixidron - this card has been an absolute house for me. Yes, he would leave my Roon dead, but he's in the deck more as a tutor-able wrath effect and general-tucker. If I'm behind on board state, there are a ton of ways for me to get him: Birthing Pod, Eladamri's Call, Wargate (if you run it). He's been fantastic and I'd encourage you to test him out for yourself.
Second, TBH, I'd include an Oracle of Mul Daya, but I just haven't gotten my hands on one yet. Thanks for the catch - he'll be on my want list!
Green: Eternal Witness, Sylvan Library
Blue: Cyclonic Rift, Arcane Denial
Red: Wheel of Fortune, Goblin Sharpshooter
Black: Phyrexian Arena, Toxic Deluge
White: Austere Command, Swords to Plowshares
Artifact: Coalition Relic, Darksteel Ingot
Underrated: Neurok Stealthsuit, Thassa, God of the Sea
Wall of Kelp isn't bad, but so far I've rarely lacked sacrifice fodder, and usually those are zombies that are easier to get back via recursion (Gravedigger, Unholy Grotto) so I'm on the fence about it. Same goes with the other two token makers, though I do like the flying on the Bloodline Keeper.
I definitely agree with you on the equipment. I'm actually looking into picking up a few more swords, and I've gone back and forth with haste enablers like Lightning Greaves. The issue that came up is that most of my creatures aren't worth equipping, so they really become dedicated slots to my general, which while OK, can be dangerous due to what he does for my opponents when he enters. I might further playtest increasing my equipment count.
I initially had haste enablers in the deck (Ogre Battledriver and Hammer of Purphoros) but the issue that kept coming up with the double red in the casting cost. This deck is primarily black and only splashes the other colors, so I run a pretty solid black mana base - the double red can be difficult. This is another reason why Wall of Kelp could be hard to run.
Thanks for the feedback!
True, but you also must remember that early to mid game, we're mostly just setting up. In a multiplayer game, I would be surprised if the table doesn't kill off a planeswalker, as we're not threatening yet, so that walker is likely the most threatening thing on the board. If you're talking about late game, answers include counter magic (my favorite is Glen Elendra Archmage), Beast Within as you stated, maybe Terastadon, but I prefer straight damage, as I can usually get in unblockable with Thassa, God of the Sea.
I agree with what Jaytron said; however, I'll try to give you an idea of what I look for when searching for a given CMC permanent in my Roon deck:
0 CMC: Dryad Arbor or an ABU Dual land (eg: Tropical Island) if I'm low on mana.
1 CMC: Usually Noble Hierarch.
2 CMC: Coiling Oracle for ramp, Qsali Pridemage for removal, Mistmeadow Witch for a blink enabler.
3 CMC: Harmonic Sliver for removal, Eternal Witness for recursion.
4 CMC: Usually Birthing Pod. Sometimes I'll get Spike Weaver if opponents have huge board state, maybe Glen Elendra Archmage if combo is threatening.
5 CMC: This is where it gets very situation-specific. Favorites include Prophet of Kruphix, Perplexing Chimera, and Ixidron.
6 CMC: Favorites include Deadeye Navigator, Sun Titan, Prime Speaker Zegana.
7 CMC: (Note: If you're wargate-ing for this much, I'd be concerned). Favorites would include Angel of Serenity and Luminate Primordial.
I have absolutely loved it. It's a board wipe that you can easily tutor for since it's a creature, it neutralizes enemy commanders on the board, you can reflip your own creatures, it's recurrable with Reveillark...I've found it to be wonderful.