I've been testing with it quite a bit and have made a list with more creatures (more of a creature toolbox) in the main. It did require me to remove the Abundant Growths (which I'm not real keen on); but it has been great.
There are so many ways to go with the deck...because Fiend Artisan allows you to search for any creature; it opens the deck up to a million possible interactions. I am still working on the best interactions available.
I have been having a lot of fun and success with lutri as well. I have been working on URx flash as well. I still haven't worked out if I want to go full flash or stick with sprite dragon. I'm still working on it.
I am very excited for the companion announcement on Monday. I was getting used to enjoying lutri so I'm not sure if that will continue, but if the announcement hurts companions too bad that just means you can play the mono white deck more! It's a win/win for you.
I love Blessed Alliance in your deck against boggles. Very cool Idea. For the jeskai deck I have always loved Deflecting Palm. It's just such a blow out that it's a ton of fun.
This design philosophy has a lot to do with the current divide in the consumer based business market in the world right now. Most major consumer based businesses are beginning to cater more towards the very wealthy. This is a prudent business decision as more and more of the worlds wealth is going to the top 1% each year. Businesses, who are in the business of making money for the shareholders or just for their bottom line, are forced to utilize this strategy until something changes. Most products used to be geared towards the masses or what was referred to as the "middle class" for a long period of time. Over the prior 10-20 years the "middle class" has dwindled as people have either joined the wealthy class or more likely joined the more "average" income class for lack of a better word. As the wealth gap increased exponentially over the prior decade the business models had to adjust accordingly.
We see this in the gaming community in general in many areas. It is often now referred to as "pay to win". This isn't a new phenomenon, but it does seem more extreme at this point in gaming. Businesses are almost forced to do this to maximize profits. This is a very complicated topic and has so many variables and tangential topics that cause the overall disparity. I won't share my personal beliefs on the topic and what I think should be done because discussing the wealth inequality topic in detail in this forum would derail the original topic and wouldn't be the correct forum to discuss this topic. There are plenty of places to go to discuss wealth inequality. I just wanted to include the topic to show how this current phenomenon affects the game we love.
P.S. has anyone had any more luck with Kenan and Leyline?
I made a deck with both and Karn. It is fast. I like a slightly more “offbeat” deck; but the combination of Kinan and Leyline is definitely Modern-viable.
So I know its been a dead forum for a little while; but....
I have been playing a Fiend Artisan Devotion deck and it is bonkers...I am currently testing and honing it; but I will post it once it is perfected. Here is the starting list:
The sideboard is a work in progress...but the deck can go off as early as turn three (not often though) but is extremely consistent as a turn-4 deck and very resilient (with room for interaction where needed).
You don’t have to play the Tower Scout+Kiki combo in it...I made a version with just Craterhoof, Hornet Queen, etc. and it was great. I am just currently trying out the combo because it only takes two slots (and with 10 mana and 2 dorks; Fiend Artisan becomes a 1-card combo! I don’t know how many games where Craterhoof wouldn’t win where the combo does...but it’s probably a non-zero amount.
Fiend Artisan is fragile and does have to live for a turn; so there are definitely downsides; but the fact that (a) it is only a 2-drop, (b) gets better and larger as the game goes longer, (c) can be untapped/reused with both Kiora’s and Hyrax Tower Scout (or Kiki-) and (c) adds 2-devotion...he works well in the decks “plan” B (just filling up the board and attacking). You don’t have to go too “all in” on it; but it is great when it works out.
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I hope everyone else is doing well and trying to do the best under what has been a very difficult period for everyone worldwide. Sending my love to the whole Devotion community!
Here is one more game that was really exciting: Game 3 of my match with Jeskai Lutri vs Grixis Delver feat. Lurrus. Companions can be fun!
We need to find a way to see your entire matches because they are so fun to watch. One of the highlights of the day for sure!
Me too! I love these videos. I am going to try to set up some type of recording for my matches as well once the weather gets a little cooler and work slows down.
Sorry for being away for so long everyone, but I recently graduated and recieved a promotion at my job so I've been a little overwhelmed with everything. I'm glad I'm not the only one that's extremely excited about Lutri, the Spellchaser as I'm 4-1 and 3-2 in league matches right now. Here's the list that I'm runing with.
How has Narset of the Ancient Way been treating you? I was curous about her when she came out, but I haven't pulled the trigger on picking her up yet. In my UR Lutri deck Fact or Fiction has been an allstar so maybe I should make room for it in the Jeskai version as well. I'm glad to be back and I'm happy to see people still posting in this forum as well!
DOUBLE CONGRATS!!!!! Wow that is awesome. A graduation and a promotion is a nice combination. That is great to hear.
As for magic, I too am currently addicted to playing Lutri. There are so many ways to go with it and it just makes every game so much fun. As many of you know I was always a fan of the 1 of and 2 of so lutri is right up my alley. To be honest a lot of us on here are that way. I have found lutri to fit better in a more midrange/control shell.
I too haven't had a ton of time to play so I don't have anything concrete yet after the list I shared a little while back, but I want to make a control version instead so I will be working on that later this week. Your list looks awesome. To be honest Fact or Fiction was amazing when squacheif played too so I definitely think that is a great call. I hadn't thought of that card, but I am definitely going to include it in my lutri list.
Thanks for Sharing Stevomat. He has played several versions of Lutri lately. He is a fun streamer. I am a regular if you ever find your way to his stream. He is actually playing the deck right now as I am writing this :).
That deck you played in the video is just soooo awesome. Just value on top of value. I love it. That game was sweet. The opponent probably didn't know what hit them.
Yeah, I just like white combat tricks
Played four more matches with the deck today and I am 5-1 now.
I think I'd still take my mono white list to a big tournament but so far I am having a blast playing Lutri!
Just played an exciting match against Mardu Death's Shadow. My opponent won game 1. You can watch game 2 here and game 3 here.
In the other matches I didn't even need Lutri copying spells to win but in this match the otter did really shine
These games were awesome! I can honestly say that deck is my favorite deck I have seen anyone post in a long time. There is just no replacement for path to exile. I have tried UR and UWR lutri and UWR is just way better in my opinion. Since you can only have 1 of's I think a third color is a must. I totally agree that taking a lutri deck to a 10+ round tournament probably wouldn't be the best choice, it is just so much fun to play. I am definitely going to be working on my jeskai lutri deck and keeping it as one of my FNM options. I am currently working on my "go-to" deck right now which is URx flash. I have been very impressed with Cunning Nightbonder in just a few games of testing. I will keep you guys posted on how it goes and will post the list on here at some point.
Very cool deck and very skilled player. I have been lucky enough to talk to Stevomat for a long time and he has done a ton of work on this deck. I have seen it in action and it is a truly awesome deck and one you opponents won't see coming.
Very cool deck SteovmatUWR! I have really enjoyed the Lutri deck. Like you said, it's just really fun to draw a new card each turn. I LOVE this list because it has so many rarely seen cards. I love that players seem to have a personality in their decks. You always have awesome builds that really utilize white cards to their fullest extent. I think some of the white cards are often over looked and that probably gives you an advantage over opponents that don't see them coming. Just a ton of fun to play. It will take a little while to see if my list can be competitive, but it is definitely a ton of fun.
I do think Lutri can be competitive and several people have 5-0'd with UR, Grixis, and Jeskai Lutri so it can be competitive. My main concern is only having access to 1 copy of bolt, Force of Negation, Delver, and Snapcaster. I do think the more controlling version (definitely non-delver) is the way to go. I love playing delver, but delver literally only works with 4 copies most of the time. I am planning on making a control version, a tempo version, and an aggro version just to have a little fun and see what works and what doesn't. Right now I only have the tempo/flash version sleeved up so I will give that a try tomorrow with a little testing.
After looking at the MTGO league results it really looks like modern is the wild west again like it was intended to be. You can literally play almost anything and have fun and win. There were 5-0's with GW cats, 5-color elementals, UB flash, a cascade deck, jeskai and grixis lutri, goblins, boros equipment, and also the normal suspects (jund, burn, tron, amulet, etc). We may be living the single best modern format ever right now. With a few tweaks like getting rid of either Griselbrand, Simian Spirit Guide, or Neobrand to get rid of that silly deck I think modern would be nearly perfect. I too would like to see Veil of Summer gone, but that is a personal choice because the card hasn't warranted a ban at this point.
Good to see you are still lurking WickedApp! I think the pandemic has slowed things down a bit for most players. I hope it picks back up. I haven't been able to play at all really given the pandemic. I am really excited to brew right now with UR and Jeskai. I am currently trying a UR flash deck and a UR and Jeskai Lutri deck. I will let you all know if I land on anything that I think can be competitive. I am lucky that my brother lives here with me so I do have someone I can test with.
I think it’s funny that Ari Lax and others are saying “We were all so dumb for missing abundant growth for all these years...”. We weren’t! I’ve been playing it for years... and I remember Michael Majors discussing how good it was years ago.
I've been testing with it quite a bit and have made a list with more creatures (more of a creature toolbox) in the main. It did require me to remove the Abundant Growths (which I'm not real keen on); but it has been great.
There are so many ways to go with the deck...because Fiend Artisan allows you to search for any creature; it opens the deck up to a million possible interactions. I am still working on the best interactions available.
I love Blessed Alliance in your deck against boggles. Very cool Idea. For the jeskai deck I have always loved Deflecting Palm. It's just such a blow out that it's a ton of fun.
We see this in the gaming community in general in many areas. It is often now referred to as "pay to win". This isn't a new phenomenon, but it does seem more extreme at this point in gaming. Businesses are almost forced to do this to maximize profits. This is a very complicated topic and has so many variables and tangential topics that cause the overall disparity. I won't share my personal beliefs on the topic and what I think should be done because discussing the wealth inequality topic in detail in this forum would derail the original topic and wouldn't be the correct forum to discuss this topic. There are plenty of places to go to discuss wealth inequality. I just wanted to include the topic to show how this current phenomenon affects the game we love.
I made a deck with both and Karn. It is fast. I like a slightly more “offbeat” deck; but the combination of Kinan and Leyline is definitely Modern-viable.
I have been playing a Fiend Artisan Devotion deck and it is bonkers...I am currently testing and honing it; but I will post it once it is perfected. Here is the starting list:
4x Arbor Elf
3x Birds of Paradise
4x Fiend Artisan
2x Wistful Selkie
1x Eternal Witness
1x Hyrax Tower Scout
1x Polukranos, World Eater
1x Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
2x Woodland Bellower
1x Craterhoof Behemoth
4x Utopia Sprawl
3x Abundant Growth
3x Oath of Nissa
Planeswalker (9)
3x Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner
3x Kiora, Master of Depths
3x Garruk Wildspeaker
Land (21)
6x Forest
7x Green Fetch
4x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1x Ketria Tryome
1x Breeding Pool
1x Stomping Ground
1x Waterlogged Cove
The sideboard is a work in progress...but the deck can go off as early as turn three (not often though) but is extremely consistent as a turn-4 deck and very resilient (with room for interaction where needed).
You don’t have to play the Tower Scout+Kiki combo in it...I made a version with just Craterhoof, Hornet Queen, etc. and it was great. I am just currently trying out the combo because it only takes two slots (and with 10 mana and 2 dorks; Fiend Artisan becomes a 1-card combo! I don’t know how many games where Craterhoof wouldn’t win where the combo does...but it’s probably a non-zero amount.
Fiend Artisan is fragile and does have to live for a turn; so there are definitely downsides; but the fact that (a) it is only a 2-drop, (b) gets better and larger as the game goes longer, (c) can be untapped/reused with both Kiora’s and Hyrax Tower Scout (or Kiki-) and (c) adds 2-devotion...he works well in the decks “plan” B (just filling up the board and attacking). You don’t have to go too “all in” on it; but it is great when it works out.
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I hope everyone else is doing well and trying to do the best under what has been a very difficult period for everyone worldwide. Sending my love to the whole Devotion community!
Me too! I love these videos. I am going to try to set up some type of recording for my matches as well once the weather gets a little cooler and work slows down.
DOUBLE CONGRATS!!!!! Wow that is awesome. A graduation and a promotion is a nice combination. That is great to hear.
As for magic, I too am currently addicted to playing Lutri. There are so many ways to go with it and it just makes every game so much fun. As many of you know I was always a fan of the 1 of and 2 of so lutri is right up my alley. To be honest a lot of us on here are that way. I have found lutri to fit better in a more midrange/control shell.
I too haven't had a ton of time to play so I don't have anything concrete yet after the list I shared a little while back, but I want to make a control version instead so I will be working on that later this week. Your list looks awesome. To be honest Fact or Fiction was amazing when squacheif played too so I definitely think that is a great call. I hadn't thought of that card, but I am definitely going to include it in my lutri list.
I'm glad all is well and that deck is awesome!
That deck you played in the video is just soooo awesome. Just value on top of value. I love it. That game was sweet. The opponent probably didn't know what hit them.
These games were awesome! I can honestly say that deck is my favorite deck I have seen anyone post in a long time. There is just no replacement for path to exile. I have tried UR and UWR lutri and UWR is just way better in my opinion. Since you can only have 1 of's I think a third color is a must. I totally agree that taking a lutri deck to a 10+ round tournament probably wouldn't be the best choice, it is just so much fun to play. I am definitely going to be working on my jeskai lutri deck and keeping it as one of my FNM options. I am currently working on my "go-to" deck right now which is URx flash. I have been very impressed with Cunning Nightbonder in just a few games of testing. I will keep you guys posted on how it goes and will post the list on here at some point.
I do think Lutri can be competitive and several people have 5-0'd with UR, Grixis, and Jeskai Lutri so it can be competitive. My main concern is only having access to 1 copy of bolt, Force of Negation, Delver, and Snapcaster. I do think the more controlling version (definitely non-delver) is the way to go. I love playing delver, but delver literally only works with 4 copies most of the time. I am planning on making a control version, a tempo version, and an aggro version just to have a little fun and see what works and what doesn't. Right now I only have the tempo/flash version sleeved up so I will give that a try tomorrow with a little testing.
After looking at the MTGO league results it really looks like modern is the wild west again like it was intended to be. You can literally play almost anything and have fun and win. There were 5-0's with GW cats, 5-color elementals, UB flash, a cascade deck, jeskai and grixis lutri, goblins, boros equipment, and also the normal suspects (jund, burn, tron, amulet, etc). We may be living the single best modern format ever right now. With a few tweaks like getting rid of either Griselbrand, Simian Spirit Guide, or Neobrand to get rid of that silly deck I think modern would be nearly perfect. I too would like to see Veil of Summer gone, but that is a personal choice because the card hasn't warranted a ban at this point.