Quote from gkourou »@Jordan and people at Modern Nexus or in here: A nice experiment would be if someone could test SFM in that Mardu reveler deck.
I am getting increasingly confident that it's too much for this deck, even if it's OK as a card to have in the format.
I would love to find some time and test it out myself. Maybe I could.
You're making the same mistake that people make every time people evaluate unbans. You're looking at it as if Mardu Pyro is still has the same cards, draws, and plays it has now, and then on top of that it's also jamming on-curve Stoneforge Mystic.
Pyro would have to entirely change to accommodate Stoneforge. First by retooling its mana base in which white is an afterthought. Then by trying to make that new mana base work around Blood Moon. In a format bristling with unfair like Modern, you really need to evaluate how many points you're going to gain by shocking yourself down to 14 and playing Squire into Batterskull when you could just ended the game turn 3 because your opponent scoops to Blood Moon.
And then there's Death & Taxes, in which Stoneforge has anti-synergy with literally the entire architecture of the deck of the deck. I'm not a D&T player so I don't have much insight into that, but last time a Stoneforge unban came up, the D&T players were pretty lukewarm on it.
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-2 Birds
-2 Pridemage
-2 Clique
-2 Queller
+2 Finks
+3 Reflector Mage
+2 Blessed Alliance
+1 Gideon
You'd still be at 25 Company hits post board. I've had success bringing in Eidolon of Rhetoric on the play as well, between Snaps and the deck being densely packed with cantrips it can seriously slow them down.
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The deck that just top 8'd a GP Played a 3/3 Split with 4 Druid....
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Adam Gouveia -
3 Birds of Paradise
4 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Noble Hierarch
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scavenging Ooze
3 Selfless Spirit
4 Spell Queller
2 Tireless Tracker
3 Voice of Resurgence
2 Vendilion Clique
Planeswalkers (2)
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Lands (22)
3 Forest
1 Island
1 Plains
2 Breeding Pool
4 Flooded Strand
1 Gavony Township
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Sejiri Steppe
1 Temple Garden
4 Windswept Heath
2 Retreat to Coralhelm
4 Collected Company
3 Path to Exile
3 Reflector Mage
1 Scavenging Ooze
2 Stony Silence
2 Worship
3 Blessed Alliance
3 Unified Will
1 Bojuka Bog
Kevin Jones (Grixis/UWx aficionado) -
3 Birds of Paradise
4 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Noble Hierarch
1 Qasali Pridemage
2 Reflector Mage
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Spell Queller
2 Tireless Tracker
4 Voice of Resurgence
1 Vendilion Clique
Planeswalkers (2)
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Lands (22)
2 Forest
1 Island
1 Plains
2 Botanical Sanctum
1 Breeding Pool
1 Flooded Strand
1 Gavony Township
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Horizon Canopy
4 Misty Rainforest
2 Temple Garden
4 Windswept Heath
4 Collected Company
4 Path to Exile
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Reflector Mage
2 Stony Silence
1 Worship
1 Courser of Kruphix
3 Blessed Alliance
3 Unified Will
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
1 Bojuka Bog
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He had a pretty poor run, closing at 8-8. Judging by Mengucci's article on CFB it doesn't seem like he was particaurly happy with his deck choice for Modern.
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4 Birds of Paradise
4 Noble Hierarch
3 Kitesail Freebooter
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Tidehollow Sculler
1 Voice of Resurgence
2 Courser of Kruphix
4 Knight of the Reliquary
3 Tireless Tracker
Spells (10)
2 Fatal Push
4 Path to Exile
4 Collected Company
2 Forest
1 Gavony Township
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Godless Shrine
2 Horizon Canopy
2 Marsh Flats
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Temple Garden
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
1 Bojuka Bog
3 Thoughtseize
3 Collective Brutality
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Voice of Resurgence
2 Kitchen Finks
2 Worship
Kind of an interesting list.. Relying on Black creature-based disruption in the main and Thoughtseize/Brutality post board. Assuming he was heavily metagaming towards Storm/Tron while still leveraging the strength of Company/KOTR/Tracker vs. Shadow decks.
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http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=118304
1 Walking Ballista
3 Birds of Paradise
4 Devoted Druid
3 Duskwatch Recruiter
3 Eternal Witness
2 Fauna Shaman
1 Meddling Mage
4 Noble Hierarch
1 Reflector Mage
1 Selfless Spirit
4 Spell Queller
3 Vizier of Remedies
1 Courser of Kruphix
3 Forest
1 Plains
1 Botanical Sanctum
1 Breeding Pool
2 Gavony Township
1 Hallowed Fountain
2 Horizon Canopy
4 Misty Rainforest
2 Temple Garden
4 Windswept Heath
Spells (8)
4 Chord of Calling
4 Collected Company
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Burrenton Forge-Tender
1 Kor Firewalker
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Reflector Mage
1 Eidolon of Rhetoric
3 Path to Exile
2 Unified Will
3 Geist of Saint Traft
1 Kataki, War's Wage
Fauna Shaman is a great addition in my opinion to the Spell Queller lists. I'm not sold on the 1-of Courser of Kruphix in the main as it's a pretty lackluster tutor target that could likely be swapped for a Scavenging Ooze. I've never been a fan of Kor Firewalker from the board but can see it as a 1-of ace for the Burn MU.. a 2nd copy of Burrenton Forge-Tender could fill the slot as well.
Other than that, I think this list looks pretty fantastic and I'm excited to give it another shot.
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https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/modern-bant-counters-company/
http://www.gatheringmagic.com/kyleboggemes-06152017-bant-company-in-modern/
I disagree with a few numbers and the manabase in both lists. But was looking to see if anyone here has put in some time with it?
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Just an update on what I've been testing in my Fauana Shaman list lately after a couple of weeks of just running super cold with your run of the mill stock Knightfall. The updates I'd made were pretty specific to the piss poor results against Abzan Company, Elves (with the Vizier Combo), and spell based combo (Ad Naus, Storm).
3x Birds of Paradise
1x Courser of Kruphix
1x Eternal Witness
3x Fauna Shaman
4x Knight of the Reliquary
4x Noble Hierarch
1x Aven Mindcensor
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Scavenging Ooze
1x Selfless Spirit
4x Spell Queller
1x Tireless Tracker
3x Voice of Resurgence
Enchantment (2)
2x Retreat to Coralhelm
1x Breeding Pool
1x Flooded Strand
3x Forest
1x Gavony Township
1x Ghost Quarter
1x Hallowed Fountain
2x Horizon Canopy
1x Kessig Wolf Run
4x Misty Rainforest
1x Plains
1x Stomping Ground
1x Temple Garden
4x Windswept Heath
Instant (8)
4x Collected Company
4x Path to Exile
1x Eidolon of Rhetoric
1x Izzet Staticaster
1x Kataki, War's Wage
2x Kitchen Finks
1x Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1x Reclamation Sage
2x Negate
1x Eldritch Evolution
2x Reflector Mage
1x Scavenging Ooze
1x Spellskite
A couple of talking points on card selection:
1x Courser of Kruphix / 1x Tireless Tracker MD - I've tossed and turned between quantities here. Trying 2 of 1 or a Split. Most time when you're in a position to toolbox via Shaman you're either looking to grab a Knight/Queller. But in specific MUs like Burn the first card I'll tutor up is Courser and often having a 2nd just shuts the Door or If I still have lands in hand vs. Decks like UW and sometimes Death's Shadow I want to grab Tracker to help dig for Path or generate value.
1x Aven Mindcensor MD - I wanted a MD hatebear capable of slowing down Abzan Company, Storm (Gifts), Big Mana Decks. Functioning at instant speed with Fuana Shaman is definitely an additional perk. It can also be pretty potent vs. Death's Shadow variants unstable 12x Fetch Manabase.
1x Scavenging Ooze MD - I'm 100% sure the quantity should be 2 MD but I've been testing as a 1/1 split between MD/SB. Finding space has been a challenge.
1x Linvala, Keeper of Silence SB - I think this card is going to be a powerhouse going forward being extremely powerful in a number of MUs.
0x Unified Will SB - I'll be honest, the only time I miss this card right now is when my opponent is resolving a Primeval Titan. Negate does a fine job in the MUs where I want counterspells and plays well in the Burn MU. I could still be talked off this ledge.