Loaming Shaman has seen limited play as a Chord bullet against graveyards. That role has been taken over by Remorseful Cleric.
If you're green and combo, you want Veil of Summer. It's basically the green Silence. Trades with a counterspell (even Dovin's Veto) or discard spell and draws you a card for your trouble.
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izzetmage posted a message on [M20] Core Set Magic 2020 Previews: Modern DiscussionPosted in: Modern -
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rcwraspy posted a message on [MH1] Modern Horizons Discussion ThreadPosted in: Modern
Looks like they missed their opportunity to reprint Sunglasses of Urza!!Quote from izzetmage »On Horizons itself, it's a nostalgia set so a lot of cards are going to be subject to rose tinted glasses. -
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BlazingRagnarok posted a message on [MH1] Modern Horizons Discussion ThreadPosted in: ModernQuote from 13055 »Quote from BlazingRagnarok »
Wing Shards is going to build storm count against Boggles, Infect, and Death's Shadow. All three decks cast spells before combat or before connecting in combat.
I don't think that any of those decks need a Storm count for Wing Shards, though. If Bogles has more creatures than Auras, you should already be winning. For Infect, similar thing, they don't usually attack with more than 1 creature, especially with Hierarch out. For Shadow, if they cast anything precombat, it's going to be a Thoughtseize/IoK, and they just take the Shards anyways. Except for special cases where the Bogle player diversifies their threats for some reason, or the Infect player swings with a bunch of Glistener Elves/Inkmoths, or the Shadow player deploys a threat precombat (?!) or casts a Thought Scour at sorcery speed (?!), I don't think Wing Shards lines up particularly well against any of those, at least not moreso than Blessed Alliance would in those same circumstances.
Boggles and Infect don't need a whole swarm of creatures for Wing Shards to be more effective than Blessed Alliance. Just two. Attacking with an extra creature when they expect Alliance is a fairly simple maneuver, and Wing Shards is the superior option in that scenario.
For shadow, I was talking about Temur Battle Rage backed up with Stubborn Denial, for which Shards is definitely better. Discard is a moot point because it hits the vast majority of the format's removal anyways, so it's meaningless in the Shards vs. Alliance debate.
Quote from izzetmage »Those decks only attack with one creature at a time.
Not 100% of the time, and certainly not while they have a spare creature whilst expecting an edict. Keep in mind that Storm also bypasses Stubborn Denial.
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kysg posted a message on Combo Elves (Vizier + Devoted Druid, Curio, and Intruder Alarm)hmm surprising this thread hasn't been brought back up.Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
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drmarkb posted a message on [Deck] Pillow Fort Prison- White-X Enchantment ControlWell , with the site about to go I would like to thank contributors to the thread.Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
We just got a new toy with the new academy ruins land too. Keep brewing, see you on the other side. -
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Ym1r posted a message on [MH1] Modern Horizons Discussion ThreadPosted in: Modern
Considering the vast amount of potential reprints, even if the set consisted ONLY of reprints, a number of people would still be very sad. There is absolutely no way to please everyone ever. Imho, if the set goes well, there will be another Modern Horizons to both hype some people and depress others, but still include more cards in modern which, overall, I find a good thing.Quote from cfusionpm »Quote from Nyzzeh »Shelter spoiled. Hurray! I don't understand wizard's repring policy. Why this instead of moment's peace?! Same set even! Is aggro bad in Modern?
The noninclusion of fire//ice was also a big bummer for me. It's a very good card for control vs tron, which needs a lot of help.
There was a noninclusion of a number of cards that made a number of us very sad.
Imho now that the set is spoiled let just the brew happen, people try decks, and the we can properly evaluate it in 6 months, rather than lingering in a misery of "they didn't reprint my pet card".
PS: Yey for me actually NOT ordering these Psychatog FNMs I was eyeing as potential reprints -
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Cainsson posted a message on Wall of BlossomsThis will impact Modern.Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
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ForgottenPlaneswalker posted a message on Unsettled MarinerPosted in: The Rumor Mill
Why not both?Quote from MysticLeviathan »Quote from RSSR »Hmmm...this might top Diffusion Sliver for a slot in a Modern Sliver build. It seems close either direction.
Doubt it. Diffusion Sliver counters unless the controller pays 2. Not sure if the bigger body and the fact it gives you the player psuedo evasion is worth it, but not sure. Regardless, this is not the Sliver Modern Slivers needs. -
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idSurge posted a message on End of an EraGlad to hear it will continue somewhere else.Posted in: Modern Archives
The only thing I hope for, is this same format of forum. Not like Reddit, or other sites, but a nice traditional forum. -
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rowej posted a message on [MH1] Modern Horizons Discussion ThreadI'm legit shocked so many people are complaining.Posted in: Modern
Tons of cards in this set are going to Top 8 GP/PT's over the next year and we STILL have cards left to go... - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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I thought it would be nice if we had a reference for infinite combos used modern.
I've put together this list along with a script for creating this page. So please feel free to add your infinite combos below and I'll start adding them here. If you can try to add their result and perhaps a primer if there is a deck using the combo.
To be clear, we want combos that can go on indefinitely. So nothing like March of the Machines + Mycosynth Lattice. Those are two static abilities, while making an interesting combo, they are not infinite. A combo like Harrow + Uyo, Silent Prophet is fine. Sure you'll run out of lands in your deck, but no matter how many basics are in there the combo could be infinitely repeated.
Add combos below and happy brewing.
Please point out any errors you catch. I tried to make sure my data entry was correct, but more eyes can usually spot more mistakes.
I do have some enhancements for this list, but haven't created yet.
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I haven't added any from Dominaria yet. So feel free to post any you find and I'll get to it.
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Please go to http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/788660-infinite-combo-reference for the new combo reference.
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I'll start working on editing the code to be in two posts and create a new topic once it is complete.
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It's not a common scenario where order would matter, so is messed up a few times when it happens. The first time I saw it was at a draft where both players had Huntmaster on the battlefield. Then the order of triggers was extremely important.
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Here's the rule that I should've included in the other post
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1 Sigil of the Empty Throne
2 Heliod, God of the Sun
Enchantments
3 Greater Auramancy
4 Runed Halo
4 Leyline of Sanctity
4 Ghostly Prison
2 Sphere of Safety
4 Porphyry Nodes
4 Spreading Algae
Artifacts
3 Scepter of Dominance
3 Wrath of God
3 Sylvan Scrying
Lands
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
3 Ghost Quarter
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Fetid Heath
3 Temple Garden
4 Windswept Heath
5 Plains
3 Forest
3 Beast Within
4 Nevermore
2 Karma
3 Stony Silence
2 Choke
1 Story Circle
Match 1 vs Jund Loss 0-2
Game 1: Lesson: Choose Finks first with Nodes. This game started out well with Porphyry Nodes and Ghostly Prison in hand. At some point the board state had him with a Kitchen Finks and I cast Nodes. The next turn he runs out a Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet. I choose Kalitas with Nodes and let him re-read the card. Turns out that was a mistake. I should've chosen Finks first, let it persist. Instead I got Kalitas. Next turn I got Finks and while it was in the graveyard persisting the Nodes sacrificed itself. After that there is a large list of -2 to my life total.
Game 2: Lesson: A 3/4 Goyf is something you want to use Runed Halo on. This game I got out Spreading Algae on Turn 2. It was great, the opponent used his next turn to cast Goyf and he was down one land already. As the game progressed I drew a Runed Halo with Goyf still on the board. I thought I should keep Halo in hand in case another threat showed up that I needed to deal with. He proceeds to cast Inquisition and take it from my hand, Goyf goes up to a 4/5 and is able to kill me in 3 turns.
Match 2 vs Burn Win 2-1
Game 1: The deck played exactly like it should. I was able to lock out the ground creatures with Nodes and Prison cards and cast Runed Halo naming Eidolon. At that point I have 12 life and the life total goes 12-9-6-3. It stays at 3 for 2 turns and then I draw Leyline. The Opponent conceeds.
Game 2: Lesson: Play a bit more conservatively. This game goes just as well. I draw Nevermore just in time to name Destructive Revelry and Halo in time for Eidolon. I get the Leyline setup with 3 life to spare and Heliod is out and ready for action. My opponent is at 6 and I tapped down his Swiftspear with the Scepter last turn. Heliod deals 5 damage and I have 3 life. My opponent draws a Goblin Guide and I tap down the Swiftspear leaving my 3 life to absorb the 2 damage from Guide. My opponent then casts Boros Charm for double strike and wins. I should've left Heliod up to block and waited until I could make a few tokens.
Game 3: Plays very much like game 2 with Nevermore on Revelry and set up the prison with 4 life. This time I make sure my life total is secure before attacking with Nykthos generated Cleric tokens to take the match
Match 3 vs Affinity Loss 0-2
Game 1: Lesson: There isn't one. Sometimes Affinity just wins. This game was fast with my opponent winning the die roll and dumping 5 artifacts on the board. His turn 2 he casts plating and equips taking me to 13. His turn 3 he adds a few more artifacts and attacks for 10 followed by Galvanic Blast. We quickly shuffle for game 2.
Game 2: Affinity was a little slower this time and I draw Wrath of God. Unfortunately the opponent boarded in Thoughtseize and takes it on his turn 3. His hoard of creatures comes over and takes me from 14 to 8 to 1. I draw my last card hoping for a wipe and conceed when it doesn't appear.
Match 4 vs Scapeshift Loss 0-2
Game 1: Lesson: Why didn't you save your Ghost Quarters. I mulliganed to 6, but had a 7 card hand with Ghost Quarter and 2 Leylines. If somehow I knew it was Scapeshift I might have kept that hand. With the 6 card hand I drew into 2 Ghost Quarters, but wasted them early trying to take the opponent off of blue mana. He gets to 8 lands and casts Scapeshift.
Game 2: Lesson: Focus on Runed Halo. I opened with a Leyline this game, but knew it wasn't safe from Cryptic without redundancy. Forturnately, I also had Nevermore and Runed Halo. I tried casting Runed Halo and had it remanded. Next I tried Nevermore and another Remand showed up. I had the mana to recast Halo if I had gone with that. Instead I try Nevermore for 2 more turns. Finally, I realize my mistake and try Halo, but by then he has Cryptic and choses Bounce-Counter. I should've just kept running out Runed Halo and left the Nevermore behind.
Match 5 vs Abzan Company Draw 1-1-1
Game 1: Lesson: Use Runed Halo already. I setup 3 Ghostly Prisons early with some Nodes taking out Birds and Hierarch. The opponent gets out Melira and Viscera Seer. I have Runed Halo in my hand I decide to hold onto it again thinking I'll name Redcap after he does the combo with Finks. Turns out he just cast Redcap and does the combo.
Game 2: Lesson: Mayber I should call people on slow play. This game starts out with 2 Leylines. I was able to get the prison up and the oppenent then is drawing for infinite life. Before he could get there I get Heliod out with 16 mana available each turn. A few attacks with Cleric tokens later and the opponent goes down. Unfortunately, my opponent was very slow in all his actions and it took most the match round for this game.
Game 3: We only get about 3 turns in when time is called and the match ends in a draw. Clearly at this point I'm in the tournament to have fun, but my opponent starts berating me that my deck is designed to draw. I'll have to remember to call players on slow play for future competitive REL tournaments.
Match 6 vs Abzan Company Loss 0-3
Game 1: My opponent won this game, but conceeded after some rule discussion. He shouldn't have and should've won this game. That is why the score says three losses for me above.
Game 2: Lesson: Watchout for Aven Mindcensor. I don't have many notes from these games as game 1 got me out of sorts. But I do remember that Mindcensor was able to make me waste a fetch land and come up empty handed.
Game 3: Had Wrath of God in my openner but never got to 4 lands to cast it.
Match 7 vs BW Tokens Loss 1-2
Game 1: Controlled the game well with Wrath of God and then Sigil. My 4/4 tokens outclassed the 2/2 Spirits and I quickly won the game.
Game 2: I don't have notes for this game, but if I remember correctly it was that Nodes just wasn't fast enough vs the tokens being generated.
Game 3: Lesson: Take the flying token with Nodes, not Kataki. At one point in the game I had the option of taking a token or Kataki and took the latter. It was annoying with my one scepter out. In the last turn of the game I had my opponent down to two tokens with Nodes and could tap down one. But the last token was able to get a pump from Intangible Virtue to steal my last point of life. If I had taken that token originally and left Kataki, it wouldn't get the pump and I could have also named it with Halo. Halo unfortunately cannot name Spirit =(.
Conclussion
I really like the deck and will make some changes before I take it out again. It was fun and nice running a deck that doesn't fold as easily to burn like my Combo Elves. The Scepter-Algae combo was awesome when it came online, but Spreading Algae on its own was fun too. I had Judges called in my first 4 matches to ensure the card was modern legal.