MTG Salvation

And now I think about it, Eggs and Tron are probably leftovers of their old format names?

Modern archetypes are still named pretty cool things.

Eidolon of the Great Revel is played almost as an auto 4-of in burn.

Black is indeed manipulative, but not inherently deceptive. In a secrecy-openness dichotomy, black is surprisingly neutral. They utilize all means for an end, both the underhanded and the overt, and doesn't value any of the methods in particular.

EDIT: That said, I happen to agree with your premise. I think hexproof works for green due to genetic resistances, white due to protection magic, blue due to secrecy, and black due to many of its creatures working from the shadows. (IE, it's reasonable for them to be ahrd to hit.) The flavor justification of fire armor is actually really specific and should not be the foundation for a color pie in my opinion. I think though that the only reason white doesn't have hexproof is that it already has damage prevention and protection from monicker so its protection magic is already present in the mechanics and it doesn't really need hexproof as a creature design tool.

I personally love losing to stuff like Mindslaver. I find it a really flavorful and epic way to die.

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What was The Great Keyword War? Any links to any posts in particular? I'm curious.

I'm still impressed by how large a piece of the color pie blue still has. I'm sick of it. It's the color that's the most unhealthy to the game.

I like black because I like sacrificing my own stuff and life durdlingly to win

How do people not get excited about the Sliver land?

That Ob has so few enablers is quite frustrating. I've been all over Gatherer. I'm well aware that I suck at information searching but this guy cries out "enable me!"

I guess it's another sleeping Johnny sleeper.

There's also Mindlock Orb. Everyone forgets about it. For a reason, of course, but they do.

Question from an outsider.

Why does one not run a full playset of Mana Blooms? Having multiples with just one Doomwake Giant or one Eidolon of Blossoms seems insane - sometimes it'd be a dud (drawing cards when you need to impact the board) but it still reads so powerful as an engine (the cards you've drawn should help you dig down to the answers)?

Taunting Elf is tech.

I'm considering designing a casual wg control/defensestall deck that of course loses to anything noncreaturebased, but utilizes this, cantrips or draws such as Bequethal, Wall of Omens and Sylvan Caryatid, along with white removal and fliers. G also has a lot of deathtouch which could make Lace with Moonglove and stuff interesting along with this.

I know it's casual jank, but it might be fun to do.

Many of the big flashy bombs are not even that powerful in limited imo. Eg Ashen Rider is way too expensive to be limited relevant in those colors. Silent Sentinel is way too slow. Arbiter of the Ideal reads better in Limited than it actually is, as blue usually has quire heavy reliance on instants and sorceries. I played it myself. It wiffs a lot and gives away information to the opponent. Most of the fliers are counterable with your support spells in limited or your other fliers (you usually don't play monocolored in limited after all). The Hydras I know in Theros are generally quite powerful in limited, especially as they increase redundancy in applying board state pressure in an already monster-heavy color - which has ramp to support it. Blue, for example, doesn't have ramp, and flying is relevant a lot of the time when they're so expensive if they aren't supported by proper ground defense.

I know this is a discussion about trample (and probably just trample in constructed), but if you're going into limited green, we're talking about a format where Nessian Asp was first-pickable. Green is that good in Theros limited. Its dense concentration of ramp and monsters is easy to sustain pressure with and similarly easy to support if you splash any other color than white.

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WOTC does not want good spells anymore - only creatures.

Thoughtseize Printed and reprinted, format warping, after they decided to boost creatures.

Lightning Bolt (Yes, it's a reprint, but it's still the best red spell in the game returning after they decided to boost creatures.)

Mental Misstep, banned. After they decided to boost creatures.

Abrupt Decay Another-Vindicate, after they decided to boost creatures.

And for the current standard format in particular (as in, not sure how eternal-relevant these will be)

Mizzium Mortars

Sphinx's Revelation

Supreme Verdict

Detention Sphere

That was from a really quick search and from-the-top-of-my-head recollection.

As they have repeatingly stated, they aren't exactly powering down spells; they are merely upping creatures to the power level of spells, and keep excruciatingly overpowered spells in check in general.

Sometimes they do actually try to print Eternal viable noncreature enablers such as Torpor Orb and Sundial of the Infinite.

For the latter, this means that your Yawgmoth's Will/Tolarian Academy/Show and Tell/Solitaire.dec cards won't be printed.

And good riddance for that - You'll be fine.

You only listed one spell from Theros, and it's a reprint.

Why couldn't they print any good spells in Theros?

I admit that there is a lack of truly powerful Theros block noncreature spells. But I don't think you should despair in particular over it - the Voltron system of Theros limited did infact require spells to be somewhat underpowered compared to creatures. But there's a good chance we will see powerful spells return in the next environment, as I think Limited will be much different. Just look at the spells scattered throughout the rest of the recent sets. There are plenty of gems, you know.

But for this thread in particular, I might concede to your point. I'm more concerned with the general attitude of spell-lovers who rightfully gather that creatures have increased in power. Understand that spells are still quite often quite powerful. Heck, there are consistently chase mythics that aren't creatures called Planeswalkers.

Quote from Crimson

WOTC does not want good spells anymore - only creatures.

Thoughtseize Printed and reprinted, format warping, after they decided to boost creatures.

Lightning Bolt (Yes, it's a reprint, but it's still the best red spell in the game returning after they decided to boost creatures.)

Mental Misstep, banned. After they decided to boost creatures.

Abrupt Decay Another-Vindicate, after they decided to boost creatures.

And for the current standard format in particular (as in, not sure how eternal-relevant these will be)

Mizzium Mortars

Sphinx's Revelation

Supreme Verdict

Detention Sphere

That was from a really quick search and from-the-top-of-my-head recollection.

As they have repeatingly stated, they aren't exactly powering down spells; they are merely upping creatures to the power level of spells, and keep excruciatingly overpowered spells in check in general.

Sometimes they do actually try to print Eternal viable noncreature enablers such as Torpor Orb and Sundial of the Infinite.

For the latter, this means that your Yawgmoth's Will/Tolarian Academy/Show and Tell/Solitaire.dec cards won't be printed.

And good riddance for that - You'll be fine.