Fringe Question: How do you guys beat that annoying Mono Green Devotion deck with Primal Command/Wave/Titan? I realize Fulminator Mage and discard theoretically should work, but only really if you are on the play, since generally they are able to do something splashy by turn 3.
See ya later guys. Off to brew 4 Color BGx (Jund splash Rhino). Hey, since Twin will probably rise to dominance again, that means it'll likely be banned next, followed by Scapeshift, then we can finally enjoy a comboless tier 1! (rolls eyes).
I moved Linvala out long ago. She just isn't MB material. Fracturin Gust is that good too. We can cast it turn 3-4, and even on 5, the lifegain puts us back in reasonable range. If you have to, you can then Eternal Witness it back, but I have yet to need that. I haven't lost after it resolved against a) Affinity and b) Bogles to date, but I don't play the match often. Another typical move is to Gust on their turn followed by a Pontiff on your turn, which will win you the game on the spot unless they have draw like a god.
Yea I'm not so worried about mill. It's not a thing. I don't like playing all 75 because then the land probabilities are all messed up. If it ever became an issue I'd make room for some Leylines and that'd be that.
I am also sure that Eternal Command is a good matchup for us. Their removal is essentially bolt, which most of our creatures laugh at. Add to this discard, decay, and Choke, and I don't see how you lose really. Especially with things like Rhino and Baneslayer on my side. I have never actually lost to this guy in a tournament before. Actually, I have never not 2-0d him. He actually expressed to me that he hates Voice more than anything, which I found surprising given that Vial ignores it. Might have been a ruse on his part.
went 2-2, but the caveat was I purposefully only played with 5 card hands every game to test the power of the deck.
Round 1: Esper Mill.
GOt 0-2d. This was actually a hyper-annoying deck. I hate that people think it's ok to build mill. Ok, enough ranting. I got 2-0d, but both games I had lethal on board the next turn. He just kept getting that stupid Hideaway land and putting Archive Trap under it. Even after I boarded in all my discard he naturally keeps a double Crab all fetch land/Ghost quarter hand, so my discard hits nothing. I think my luck was just terrible, and I kept 5 card hands.
Round 2: Jund.
Easy 2-0. Plus he was running goofy cards like Flinthoof board and Thundermaw. My creatures were bigger in every way. He had Duress MB and it hit nothing in my opener, and then he didn't board it out, and tried it again turn 1 G2, only to again hit nothing. I boarded in land D and destroyed all his mountains to keep Boar at a 2/2. His Goyfs just died to Rhinos and Decays, and Liliana was a nonfactor.
Round 3: BR Bloodchief Ascension
Modest 2-0. This deck is frightening actually. Like I'm sure if a pro brewed it, it would be tier 2 at least. This guy was mediocre, missing Ascension triggers and things, plus I had alot of Lifegain, and BBV both games. Game 1 as soon as I landed it he scooped, despite having an active Ascension, which he later admitted (correctly) was a mistake. Game 2 he forgot it had pro black and boarded in Dreadbores :). I was able to Abrupt Decay and Rec Sage two Ascensions, but I took some heavy hits from them beforehand, going down as low as 6 life, I think.
Round 4: Eternal Command. Same kid from my previous tournaments. Very, very strong player. This, however, is a bad matchup for him. Despite this, I kept a basic forest, gavony hand Round 1, and never drew a land or a dork, and I kid you not, EVERY card in my hand either had black in it, or was a Voice of Resurgence. I was pretty upset, but I kept telling myself, "This is a great matchup for me." Little did I know my deck would be a severe troll game 2. I keep 2 land, Thoughtseize, dork, Choke. Remember, I am on a 5 cards every hand plan. I turn 1 dork, turn 2 Sieze, turn 2 Choke after seeing nothing but Islands in hand (stomping Ground in play for him). Not only does he top deck back to back on-Islands (Flooded Grove and fetch), but I kid you not, I draw 6 consecutive lands, not of which are even Gavony to maybe boost my dork up. I was livid. 0-2.
Actually, despite these losses I wouldn't change a single thing. I might move BBV to the board cutting my second Sin Collector, which I never really wanted anyway, and try out a Goyf main again now that I have MB thoughtseizes. Or not. Who knows. My losses were to a deck that doesn't exist on 5 card hands, and one of my best matchups with terrible luck, so I'm perfectly content.
@Aazadan. Fracturing Gust and forcing Spellskite. Replace Linvala with second Rhino.
I feel like if the blue Delve cards would be banned Pod would get weaker, because Twin and Tron would be better. Then again, Scapeshift gets worse I think.
I totally am loving that Baneslayer is also doing well for someone else, as it is crushing foes for me as well. BBV is also super solid. I am trying to fit him in my SB, as he definitely deserves a spot, but right now I'm still on the "Baneslayer or BBV depending on how many PtE I think I'll see" plan.
Also, is Fleshbag actually good enough to have in the main?
I am also sure that Eternal Command is a good matchup for us. Their removal is essentially bolt, which most of our creatures laugh at. Add to this discard, decay, and Choke, and I don't see how you lose really. Especially with things like Rhino and Baneslayer on my side. I have never actually lost to this guy in a tournament before. Actually, I have never not 2-0d him. He actually expressed to me that he hates Voice more than anything, which I found surprising given that Vial ignores it. Might have been a ruse on his part.
went 2-2, but the caveat was I purposefully only played with 5 card hands every game to test the power of the deck.
Round 1: Esper Mill.
GOt 0-2d. This was actually a hyper-annoying deck. I hate that people think it's ok to build mill. Ok, enough ranting. I got 2-0d, but both games I had lethal on board the next turn. He just kept getting that stupid Hideaway land and putting Archive Trap under it. Even after I boarded in all my discard he naturally keeps a double Crab all fetch land/Ghost quarter hand, so my discard hits nothing. I think my luck was just terrible, and I kept 5 card hands.
Round 2: Jund.
Easy 2-0. Plus he was running goofy cards like Flinthoof board and Thundermaw. My creatures were bigger in every way. He had Duress MB and it hit nothing in my opener, and then he didn't board it out, and tried it again turn 1 G2, only to again hit nothing. I boarded in land D and destroyed all his mountains to keep Boar at a 2/2. His Goyfs just died to Rhinos and Decays, and Liliana was a nonfactor.
Round 3: BR Bloodchief Ascension
Modest 2-0. This deck is frightening actually. Like I'm sure if a pro brewed it, it would be tier 2 at least. This guy was mediocre, missing Ascension triggers and things, plus I had alot of Lifegain, and BBV both games. Game 1 as soon as I landed it he scooped, despite having an active Ascension, which he later admitted (correctly) was a mistake. Game 2 he forgot it had pro black and boarded in Dreadbores :). I was able to Abrupt Decay and Rec Sage two Ascensions, but I took some heavy hits from them beforehand, going down as low as 6 life, I think.
Round 4: Eternal Command. Same kid from my previous tournaments. Very, very strong player. This, however, is a bad matchup for him. Despite this, I kept a basic forest, gavony hand Round 1, and never drew a land or a dork, and I kid you not, EVERY card in my hand either had black in it, or was a Voice of Resurgence. I was pretty upset, but I kept telling myself, "This is a great matchup for me." Little did I know my deck would be a severe troll game 2. I keep 2 land, Thoughtseize, dork, Choke. Remember, I am on a 5 cards every hand plan. I turn 1 dork, turn 2 Sieze, turn 2 Choke after seeing nothing but Islands in hand (stomping Ground in play for him). Not only does he top deck back to back on-Islands (Flooded Grove and fetch), but I kid you not, I draw 6 consecutive lands, not of which are even Gavony to maybe boost my dork up. I was livid. 0-2.
Actually, despite these losses I wouldn't change a single thing. I might move BBV to the board cutting my second Sin Collector, which I never really wanted anyway, and try out a Goyf main again now that I have MB thoughtseizes. Or not. Who knows. My losses were to a deck that doesn't exist on 5 card hands, and one of my best matchups with terrible luck, so I'm perfectly content.
I feel like if the blue Delve cards would be banned Pod would get weaker, because Twin and Tron would be better. Then again, Scapeshift gets worse I think.