It also seems pretty odd to go in on someone for baseless speculation when just a few posts up you were baselessly speculating that the card would not only be a Nephilim
In fact I were baseless speculating and I never negated that, the fact I said "I dream" pretty much it's an admission of a wishful thnking than anything else. But he said that everything he says should be "obvious" to follow, while wasn't obvious at all for me, because I wasn't following his mental whirlwind of baseless speculation over another and tought he was saying other things.
Baseless? I was offering possible reasons for why they made a single 4 colour card that's not part of a cycle in the same set.
Baseless because it's not the first time WotC do stand-alone 4color cards in premiere or supplemental sets (Omnath, Atraxa, Aragorn,etc.) so yeah, seems pretty baseless to me.
Since what you were saying were baseless speculations over baseless speculations wasn't obvious at all, I get lost in your mental whirlwind, but now I get it what you were talking about, thanks.
What you mean the other 4? What mana cost should they have?
I thought it was obvious from the example but:
But that's not a connected cycle anymore, this a 5 mana cost cycle (completely arbitrary, who said we get this combinations in particular?), that 4 color one was already complete in every combination.
Also, MaRo teaser talks about only a card in with four different hybrid symbols in its mana cost, not 5 cards or a cycle of cards.
Color pie reasons. Red and green are the natural enemies of blue, so that's why they get specifically anti-blue effects like "can't be countered." Not every effect can go to every color or the color pie would be meaningless.
. Why is diabolic edict considered too strong of a card to reprint but Counterspell isn't.
Not a Standard player, but isn't Sheoldred's Edict legal in standard right now and strictly better than Diabolic Edict?
Why is Sign in Blood considered too strong of a card?
Uhm, since when? I never heard literally nobody saying this. They recently reprinted Diabolic Intent which is one of the best tutors of all times and any unconditional tutor is infinitely better to any random card draw, which black is king at.
I think your opinion (at least today) about blue is a bit too much biased.
I have a dream : a legendary Nephilim with "Partner with a Nephilim". A super-elegant way to solve finally the problem of Nephilim not being legendary but players wants to use them as commanders. Would just need a little tweak on the CR about the partner rules.
oh for peak sakes…… if those proliferate/phyrexian tribal decks weren't nasty enough in commander.
No, they aren't enough, thats why they are barely played. Poison decks are hilariously much more hated and overstimated than actually competitive and played in EDH.
and those cards are thrash in competitive metagames of Vintage and Legacy (and CEDH, save Wizards from the Beyond and M'Odo)
"These cards are bad. Except the ones that are broken. Well, they are broken".
Wizards from the Beyond completely destroy the format both conceptually and from a power level perspective.
Sure, but if hypotethically those cards were eternal legal, you would just ban the single problematic ones, not all of them, exactly how WotC and RC do all the time (Conspiracies were the one recent exception). Only because Wizard from Beyond is broken, why I should ban also stuff like Chandra, Gremlin Wrangler, Dungeon Master or Kahris & the Beholder that not only work currently perfectly fine in black border rules, not only were visionary and unique designs that predates all the D&D sets crossovers, but are even on the weak side of the power level, making them perfectly safe, fun and not unbalanced in said eternal formats? That's why is super silly in kitchen table realm to not play or accept them just because are not legal in official formats and Rule 0 of Commander can perfectly apply here with no problem whatsoever.
But A: your examples both already functioned in black border before being released as such (and The Cheese Stands Alone was modified)
Well at least half of the HOTR cards function perfectly well in black border (some of them with slight official updates in the CR) and the other half is still fun and playable for acorn games.
That doesn't mean their balanced and it doesn't mean it's a good idea to pop them in boosters and set them loose on a draft format or a competitive metagame.
Those are clearly cards that would fit more in Commander pre-cons (not a cheap price, that's for sure) and just in eternal formats, and those cards are thrash in competitive metagames of Vintage and Legacy (and CEDH, save Wizards from the Beyond and M'Odo)
Anyway still zero news about the missing 001 card?
This is the problem I have with Heroes of the Realm cards because all it does is divide the Magic community further through class warfare not in terms of how it's defined in Dungeons & Dragons but through a real life economical class system between the poor, middle class, and rich in Commander. Oh you're a peasant that doesn't own a real copy of Elusen, the Giving? Go run Karona, False God or Phelddagrif. It's actually kind of insulting to those who want to play these Heroes of the Realm cards in Commander but can't due to circumstances beyond their control unless they decide to proxy them. It also doesn't help that the print run of these cards are extremely low.
It's already scummy enough that they print and design mechanically unique Commanders as Secret Lair Drops but it's even worse when Wizards of the Coast / Hasbro prints and designs cards solely to keep for themselves instead of sharing them with the rest of the Magic community all while expecting us to pay double or triple the price on their Paper Magic products with lower quality and bad card design. No wonder why Reserve List prices are tanking right now because everyone is liquidating their collections just to get through this terrible economy right now. It's hard for me to be optimistic about Paper Magic when Wizards of the Coast / Hasbro continues to screw themselves over time and time again.
Hahahaha good one!
This IS a troll post, right?
Unfortunately no. If you check this user posts history, you will see that he's literally obsessed with his conspiracy theories and try to put them in every context possible.
I literally made two examples of two cards never meant to be played in any format but just to be readed to make a laugh that made in black border in identical form. If this is possible, anything is possibile, and therefore, also for the Heroes of the Realms cards. That is "so".
It is a net positive that these are not legal and there is no need to be mad about them being given as gifts to employees.
Mad me? I never gave a f*k about legality in kitchen table realm in all my life lol, the biggest MtG way to play in the whole world as Mark Rosewater always remind us. I regularly play Unorthodox Uncommander with my friends for over a decade and not only we had TONS of fun already with the previous HoTR cards, but we will have a blast even with those, despite -and actually in spite of- all the guys like you that says that wouldn't never see them in their games or in the game as a whole I just want to prove that so many observations about what's "wrong" on those cards are just fallacies or mere prejudices and subjective opinions.
My point is not to say that none of these cards should ever see the light of day in any form as much as that it's reasonably evident they weren't designed with the intention that they play well.
You can never know this. So many cards that were crazy ideas at first were born as silly non-serious cards meant more to be readed than be played and then after years design decided it was the time to make them real. See The Cheese Stands Alone that became Barren Glory, Enchantmentize that became just one year later One With the Stars (it's literally the same exact card save the different name) and several others, so even those Heroes of the Realms could possibly be a glint of a near or remote future for a near equivalent black-border version, who knows. Sure thing is that Wotc is making so many new cards at such quick rate with a blatant power creep especially in supplemental sets, that the chances that this could happens are definitely higher than 0%. That's why I take even those cards very seriously, they could be in any form a prefiguration of the future of Magic that could be.
In fact I were baseless speculating and I never negated that, the fact I said "I dream" pretty much it's an admission of a wishful thnking than anything else. But he said that everything he says should be "obvious" to follow, while wasn't obvious at all for me, because I wasn't following his mental whirlwind of baseless speculation over another and tought he was saying other things.
Baseless because it's not the first time WotC do stand-alone 4color cards in premiere or supplemental sets (Omnath, Atraxa, Aragorn,etc.) so yeah, seems pretty baseless to me.
But that's not a connected cycle anymore, this a 5 mana cost cycle (completely arbitrary, who said we get this combinations in particular?), that 4 color one was already complete in every combination.
Also, MaRo teaser talks about only a card in with four different hybrid symbols in its mana cost, not 5 cards or a cycle of cards.
Color pie reasons. Red and green are the natural enemies of blue, so that's why they get specifically anti-blue effects like "can't be countered." Not every effect can go to every color or the color pie would be meaningless.
Not a Standard player, but isn't Sheoldred's Edict legal in standard right now and strictly better than Diabolic Edict?
Uhm, since when? I never heard literally nobody saying this. They recently reprinted Diabolic Intent which is one of the best tutors of all times and any unconditional tutor is infinitely better to any random card draw, which black is king at.
I think your opinion (at least today) about blue is a bit too much biased.
What you mean the other 4? What mana cost should they have?
No, they aren't enough, thats why they are barely played. Poison decks are hilariously much more hated and overstimated than actually competitive and played in EDH.
Anythng about new cards spoiled from the set?
What Universe Beyond one?
Sure, but if hypotethically those cards were eternal legal, you would just ban the single problematic ones, not all of them, exactly how WotC and RC do all the time (Conspiracies were the one recent exception). Only because Wizard from Beyond is broken, why I should ban also stuff like Chandra, Gremlin Wrangler, Dungeon Master or Kahris & the Beholder that not only work currently perfectly fine in black border rules, not only were visionary and unique designs that predates all the D&D sets crossovers, but are even on the weak side of the power level, making them perfectly safe, fun and not unbalanced in said eternal formats? That's why is super silly in kitchen table realm to not play or accept them just because are not legal in official formats and Rule 0 of Commander can perfectly apply here with no problem whatsoever.
Well at least half of the HOTR cards function perfectly well in black border (some of them with slight official updates in the CR) and the other half is still fun and playable for acorn games.
Those are clearly cards that would fit more in Commander pre-cons (not a cheap price, that's for sure) and just in eternal formats, and those cards are thrash in competitive metagames of Vintage and Legacy (and CEDH, save Wizards from the Beyond and M'Odo)
Anyway still zero news about the missing 001 card?
Unfortunately no. If you check this user posts history, you will see that he's literally obsessed with his conspiracy theories and try to put them in every context possible.
I literally made two examples of two cards never meant to be played in any format but just to be readed to make a laugh that made in black border in identical form. If this is possible, anything is possibile, and therefore, also for the Heroes of the Realms cards. That is "so".
Mad me? I never gave a f*k about legality in kitchen table realm in all my life lol, the biggest MtG way to play in the whole world as Mark Rosewater always remind us. I regularly play Unorthodox Uncommander with my friends for over a decade and not only we had TONS of fun already with the previous HoTR cards, but we will have a blast even with those, despite -and actually in spite of- all the guys like you that says that wouldn't never see them in their games or in the game as a whole I just want to prove that so many observations about what's "wrong" on those cards are just fallacies or mere prejudices and subjective opinions.
You can never know this. So many cards that were crazy ideas at first were born as silly non-serious cards meant more to be readed than be played and then after years design decided it was the time to make them real. See The Cheese Stands Alone that became Barren Glory, Enchantmentize that became just one year later One With the Stars (it's literally the same exact card save the different name) and several others, so even those Heroes of the Realms could possibly be a glint of a near or remote future for a near equivalent black-border version, who knows. Sure thing is that Wotc is making so many new cards at such quick rate with a blatant power creep especially in supplemental sets, that the chances that this could happens are definitely higher than 0%. That's why I take even those cards very seriously, they could be in any form a prefiguration of the future of Magic that could be.