MTG Salvation

so has everybody moved off of the teachings side of creul control? the list that doyoulikemyultimatum posted could play one, at least as a test slot.
on a related note, i run a teachings version. i have to find space for k command but its definately going in somewhere.

deck does very well, the only real match i have trouble with is burn, but i almost beat him till he topdecked a 4 point burn. he had only one left in the deck, any other spell would have let me live. came across a puresteel paladin storm deck that tried winning with a living lore. now that deck looks fun but its entirely to easy to stop for creul control.

so has anyone tried using edge of autumn with flagstones to trigger astral slide the forst turn its out? from my research it didnt come up, or if it did i missed it. if you have i would appreciate thoughts on consistency. i have looked at the stuff morgan coke put up, and man is it extensive i know he tried hard.

in the aggro matchup its terrible, mostly due to us not having life gain yes. vs control the card is phenominal, but i have yet to play against one.

so i did the modern tournement at pax east i got 2-1-1, though i intentionally drew with my opponnt for a prize and played him for fun to kill time till the end of the round. i beat him pretty easily. jhere is the deck i am using atm.
lands:
1 mountain
1 swamp
2 island
1 graven cairns
1 sunken ruins
1 sulfur falls
1 dragonskull summit
1 reflecting pool
1 blood crypt
2 watery grave
2 steam vents
4 creeping tar pits
4 polluted delta
4 bloodstained mire

artifact:
1 batterskull

creatures:
1 tasigur, the golden fang

planeswalker:
2 jace, architect of thought

sorceries:
2 creul ultimatum

instants:
3 cryptic command
3 lightning bolt
3 electrolyze
2 remand
2 mystical teachings
2 mana leak
2 shadow of doubt
2 terminate
2 spell snare
1 repeal
1 devour flesh
1 far//away
1 consume the meek
1 logic knot
1 muderous cut
1 spell snare

sideboard:
1 slaughter games
1 mogis, god of slaughter
1 keranos, god of storms
1 teferi, mage of zhalfir
1 tormd's crypt
1 engineered explosives
1 academy ruins
1 vandalblast
1 negete
1 counterflux
1 echoing truth
1 monastary mentor
1 rakdos charm
1 tribute to hunger
1 damnation

first round was infect, beat him game one by ulting jace and got wild defiance out of his deck(wasn't really any good targets) and creul from mine, then cast the creul in my hand already, ultimatly got him by animatin my own tar pit and bolting it so i hit him for 6 with style. he got me game 2 and game three i got to turns, he killed me by a plague stinger backed by 2 apostle's blessing.

second round was against ub tezz, this match was fun and we almost went to time as well, a topdecked creul ultimatum off of keranos stole the game, i had 4 life and he had just a darksteel citadel that was a 5/5 i had 1 terminate, comnsume, and a repeal. the ultimatum literally took the game.

third round was against the modern ddt? i don't know the name of the deck, its the gw deck that plays like it though. game one he was mana screwed, game two got me down to 2 and had 3 resto angels, 1 flickerwisp, and a noble heirarch. i cast consume, terminate, devour flesh, electrolize ( one for the angel oe to him) and drew a bolt ( i hadn't seen one all game so i thought i had a good chance). killed him a couple of turns later with tar pits.

round four i agreed to split but i won when we played to kill time. gbx? rock its the deck that is bwg with knight of the reliquary. this was a easy matchup, nothing new here.


i actualy really like tasigur in this deck, he helped a lot in a couple of situations. the mained batterskull held off the ub tezz player for a few turns. i found myself siding the shadows each game as i never played against a control deck or a player who would keep more then one fetch in play besides me.
keranos helped tremendously in the tezz match i hit lands most of the time. the only hard one was infect cause i had a hard time removing phyrexian crusader with a spellskite in play and a hand of mostly red removal, the one repeal i had got a vines out of his hand at his end step though. had fun, and there was at least 20 people not sure the exact number though.

i have a playset of shadow actually. though i do have think twice as well, shadow can blow up a land sometimes. i could pick up a second remand though. thanks for the starting point.

ok, rune snag flexs to mana leak from your guys posts awhile back from what i remember. the other flex spots i cant think of, besides the number of terminates dependent on boggles presence, and electrolize in toughness heavy metas, the think twice is still up for debate on its inclusion isn't it?

thats what i see correct me if im wrong please.

thank you, that would be helpful. so far i haven't seen a list without them.

on a side note my deck seems to be scared of fish, all i see is my counterspells and like none of my removal.

edit: i have acquired a single tasigur in a trade.

if possible plese do. i have a lot of the cards on there, i have three cryptics but no clique or snaps.

ah your mogis and keranos are in the side i have mine mained. do you have a teachings list for reference? i currently have that version assembled. so far ive had success with that at my area.

sorry about that i was editing the deck and forgot i had two more sleeves set aside for lands. i posted what i already had in sleeves, i did get the delta and mires added a swamp and a mountain. thank you it actually has more colored sources than before.

one question, if i am subtracting four land haw will i add six? there are already twenty six lands.



edit: nvm forgot i added two lands afterward. guess ill take out the ghost quarter i added for a swamp. now i need to find a spell ard to cut for the mountain

so how is this manabase.
fetches- (planning to get more)
3 polluted delta
1 bloodstained mire

basics-
2 island


citp-
4 creeping tar pit

filter-
graven cairns
sunken ruin


shocks-
2 steam vents
2 watery grave
2 blood crypt


filter-
3 sulfer falls
2 dragonskull summt

any-
reflecting pool


15 red sources
17 black
19 blue

zuran orb? i don't recall seeing a list with it.

The main problem is outside of goldfishing I dont think anyone can test it very easy on paper, at least without proxies. Mtgo is an option for some, but the cards used in this deck are odd and most people won't have them so getting real cards is a huge problem and what's stopping most of us from testing.


Chromanticor may be able to be used for just about every pitch spell, but he is also just sitting in our hand if we can't pitch him to something. Not saying it's bad just that testing to find the optimal number is needed.

well nihilith can also get pathed but i see your point of adding more mana to play the other creatures 'reliably'.