Quote from antlorgut »I tested this list and 22 lands are a lot for me. Another curious thing is no geist. I think that 2x Helix and 2x Autumn are better right now?.
Maybe -1x land, +1x path mainboard could be helpful. I don´t think that 3x black leyline could be better than surgical/ravenous trap in a 2 black-lands deck. Anyway, this list is pretty standard and solid.
Quote from Piney_Tinecones »
That’s about as no bulls***, straightforward as they come. List looks tight. Congrats on the strong finish. Did the Sword ever come into play and prove useful?
Quote from lugger »Quote from s3raphix » constantly holding up 5 mana for Monstrous is a crippling tempo loss, especially considering they have Path and bounce/tuck effects to deal with a Monstrous lion.
Read Fleecemane Lion.
Quote from s3raphix » constantly holding up 5 mana for Monstrous is a crippling tempo loss, especially considering they have Path and bounce/tuck effects to deal with a Monstrous lion.
Quote from Zulander »The uptick of Jeskai is what's making me move back up to 4 copies of Voice, it's interesting how we came to different conclusions. If you find him early against them then it becomes so much easier to beat them. Pre-Jace, Jeskai control was a cake walk, now that they have Secure the Wastes and PW's, the macthup has become harder, but that's where 3x Gaddock Teeg really shines out of the board. That and Dromoka's Commands/Avacyn. I think that matchup is all about the 2 drops and forcing them to rely on Path instead of Bolt, which is what Big Zoo does well.
Quote from lugger »Voice is so unbelievably bad against Teferi, Hero of Dominaria (stock runs 2x Teferi), I don't know if you've noticed.
My Jeskai opponents ignore voice until they can start slamming 4 and 5 drops -- which Voice is atrocious against. Voice is very much a punisher effect, really really good against bad players, and pretty medium against players who recognize that he's just a 2/2.
Repeatable Ousts requires hastey threats or sticky ones. Monstrous Fleecemane Lion isn't actually that hard, since you just leave mana up once you untap with 5 mana (easy-peasy when they play path). Obviously, if you stick it turn 2 against Jeskai they'll bolt it but we've got enough redundancy at 2 that I don't worry too much about that.
Quote from SmauG »Congratulations on your result, your list looks solid!
Do you care to elaborate on your sideboard and why you took those 15 cards with you? Would love to hear about cards like Elspeth and Fiery Justice.