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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Quote from Bearscape »
    And I will never forget K0no, for defending Eldrazi winter a month into it being ~50% of the meta, saying people just had to adapt

    A broken clock is right twice a day. The fact that you just had to resort to hyperbole from a period that happened three years ago (because I'm not even sure he defended it) and had no other examples to show off really drives your point home.


    No hyperbole, he defended eldrazi winter to the bitter end.

    It comes from two sides, you know. You can be too careful in banning things. With how slow the tiny amount of data we get from events comes in, it is VERY easy to say that, according to the stats, we are fine. That is called a type 2 error.

    And although there are indeed people that jump on every deck demanding a ban, I don't think that's the case for most ban proponents. Using myself as an example, I have been talking about the same single ban for a long time; Faithless Looting. If it seems like people jump on every new deck demanding a ban, it might be because every time something dumb and unfair is powerful in modern, it involves Looting breaking the resource system. Really makes you think.

    If you go through my post history, you can see that when Neoform was the talk of the town, I was not on the ban train. I express frustration that the first thing that breaks out of WAR is yet another combo deck, but also say I want to see more data. I didn't really talk about newKarn at all, mostly because tron has always been obnoxious with or without two tutors and a softlock. Other than that, I have always been consistent in claiming that the format would be much better off without Faithless Looting.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    And I will never forget K0no, for defending Eldrazi winter a month into it being ~50% of the meta, saying people just had to adapt
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Even if this deck is the real deal, it just goes on the pile of dumb things powered by Faithless Looting IMO. So bring it on, get the London Mulligan active to make grave combo tier 0 and we can finally ban Looting.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Quote from Colt47 »
    What does the mulligan fix, and why is it better than the old way? The point of playing a card game is dealing with what life gives you, for better or worse. The more something detracts from that aspect, the less card game like the game gets. To me, it sounds like wizards is giving in to the idea of letting people pick the starting hand with minimal repercussions.

    The change isn't going to discourage cheating on the competitive circuit, so I'm really wondering what the long term plan is.


    This is silly. There is nothing pure and noble about staring at your no land 5-er and considerig if you go to 4 or just scoop once you identify their deck.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on [MH1] Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    buying this set basically feels like getting mugged by a cop. a few cool cards I want to play with, but a lot of filler.


    That's every single set ever, though. You either draft or buy singles
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Boy, between RtRtR, Modern Horizons and the London mulligan, these are turbulent times for modern. I am incredibly excited.

    Let's just hope there will be a good place to discuss all these changes once the meta forms Frown
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on [MH1] Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    The set is called "Modern Horizons".

    You can lawyer it all you want that they tEcHnIcAlLy never said it was purely a Modern set, but when we get cards that are clearly designed for commander, people will feel robbed. I've seen plenty of people make the "Commander Horizons" joke, which although I think is way too cynical shows that there are a lot of people who are disappointed in sharing the spotlight. Commander gets their own product every year; those cards aren't even Modern legal AND have brought Legacy cards like True-Name Nemesis, Council's Judgment and Leovold which are design disasters for a 1v1 format. Add to that the two-month silence between the spoilers of Serra/Cabal Therapist and the rest and you fuel false expectations even if you don't set it black on white.

    I don't even really want to argue this point because as I said I'm satisfied with the set, but these apparent 5c Commander precon rejects are a blight on an otherwise good product.

    EDIT: Leovold and Council's Judgment actually weren;t in commander precons now I think about it, but they were originally in sets designed for multiplayer
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on [MH1] Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    My overall rating of the set has increased, but without snow duals I feel all these snow cards are a complete waste.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on [MH1] Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    No idea how to rate Wrenn and Six, you could tell me it's utterly broken or draft chaff and I'd believe both. Retracing any spell is pretty nuts if you can get there.

    Sling-Gang Leutenant seems like if there is a goblin deck, that one's in it. Turn 4 swing with the team, play sling-gang and yeet all your goblins at them seems like a good finisher card similar to Shaman of the Pack
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on [MH1] Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Quote from headminerve »

    Why can't those people enjoy the good stuff and deal with it ? One can enjoy :
    1- what's gonna be the limited environment of MH1,
    4- the flavour of many cards (text, call back),
    5- the Commander extra support,
    6- the Pauper extra support.


    The problem with these 4 points is that this should be Modern Horizons. Aegraen put it pretty well that, for months now, Modern Horizons has been used as a wavehand argument that it should fix "everything wrong with Modern". I've always been skeptical of this as I do not know what kind of card you could print that would universally boost interaction in modern with how wide the scope of linear decks is. However, my hope really was for a set specifically designed for your points 2 and 3, interesting additions to lower tier decks. Which they have largely delivered on, BUT as I said in my previous post on the matter, I am more disappointed by the marketing; there is a boatload of stuff in this set that at least asks for testing in Modern, but we are clearly sharing the spotlight with Commander after months of hypinig up a set specifically for "us Modern players". Again, if this was "Rainbow Masters" I'd be giving a standing ovation for the horizon lands alone, but as THE Modern set I'm currently giving it a lukewarm 7/10.
    Posted in: Modern
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