Does it require 2 etherium sculptors to reduce Walking Ballista by 1? So if only 1 sculptor is in play it has no affect on Ballista's mana cost, correct?
So Pieces of the Puzzle is probably better suited in the side board but, it'd be better than Peer because of card advantage. So you bring them in vs Thoughtseize and Inquisition. You could run 1-2 main over Peer. I'd run the sleight of hand over Peer though. When side boarding I've been boarding out 2 Sleight of Hand because it's sorcery speed.
I know Thoughtscour went to the wayside after Opt became legal and Pyromancer's Ascension stopped being used. I personally think that 6-8 Mana reducers, 8 rituals, 4 manamorphose, 4 gifts, and 8-12 cantrips, 2 Past in flames, Grapeshot's and an empty main is just fine. You could tweek a little here and there and still kill the opponent most time.
It also shuts off tec edge and ghost quarter which is good. From asking around it seems the best way to beat these control decks is patience. Could prove useful there. However, it doesn't disrupt Tron. Is Tron a bad match-up for us? Sorry, I've been out of the loop for a while.
Idk about the mono black elf shaman. Nissa is way better, especially if the game drags out. This deck just gained a lot of late-mid game strength from Sylvan Advocate. Also, you shouldn't run any less than 4 Beastcaller Savant. That card is really good due to it being hasty.
I only run Collected Company and Foul Tongue as my non-creature cards. I haven't had any problems but, I am playing Collected Company. You should have scoped em up 2 weeks ago when they were 6 bucks a piece, I guess they don't qualify as a budget deck now?
Is anyone out there interested in talking about this deck still? I copied LEH's list above and did not care for the MOMs, I replaced them with simian spirit guides for more turn one plays. Also put serenity in board in place of Leyline's and maindecked stoney silence.
Wednesday night modern at my local shop I am gonna try 3 lily's in the side as apposed to the main. I replaced 4 lily's with a golgari charm, 2 fulminator mages and garruk wildspeaker. I dropped a lily in the side b/c i thought 4 was too many. So against say uwr control, i bring in 3 lily and one surgical ex. and side out 4 decay. I sat down with my deck and thought about all the "proven" deck match ups right now and realized i would probably side lily out more than half the time. So Wednesday night I'll be posting my report. Has anyone else considered putting lily in the side and main decking fulms? Oh and I am still running 2 thrun main, I can't seem to get away from that guy.
I don't think we can afford to play cards that don't directly affect the board state on their own. When you play the aggro/mirror match discard comes out, so that is one more card or more you need to have a viable sideboard card to replace it with.
When you got 0-2ed in the top 4 what did you side board out and in? Were they playing oblit rock or edge rock? I kind of like the idea of darkblast in place of one of the dissmembers I know i was getting lit up at times by my own confidant. Is this whey you removed maelstrom pulse?
Round 1: Pod Lost 1-2
Game 1 didn't draw many creatures and got beat up on by his and died to a 2 damage trigger by that 4 drop(forget the name).
Game 2 he got mana screwed and I drew perfect, beat em up and answered all his threats.
Game 3 kind of a slug fest that ended up me losing to Thune combo
sideboarded out 4 lili's brought in 2 cage, 1 spellbomb, 1 surgical
Round 2: UWR Control Won 2-0
Game 1 Thrun
Game 2 Thrun and fulm, now that I know how to play this match up there is NO reason to lose to it. I guess draws might happen.
sideboarded out 4 abrupt decay brought in 2 fulms, 1 surgical, 1 crucible (I now believe that crucible isn't really necessary I left these guys with no land without hitting crucible)
Round 3: UWR Control Draw 1-1-1
Game 1 He got it...luck sac
Game 2 I love thrun
Game 3 Drew b/c I sac'd fulm when I should't have. Could have forced an overtime turn 4 wrath which would have tapped em out. Instead he draws snap and on turn 5 flashes it, I kill it, he targets bolt, only critter on board is a treetop, draw
sideboarde same as above
Round 4: UWR Control Won 2-0
Game 1 Thrun
Game 2 Thrun (are u f in kidding me? they have NO answer to this guy!
sideboarded same as above
Round 5: Merefolk Won 2-1
Game 1 not enough removal to keep up
Game 2 too many critters on my side with just enough removal
Game 3 I won this game on the back of scooze, I had a 10/10 scooze!!!
sideboarded out 4 lili's brought in 2 charm, 2 fulm's
wish I had drown in sorrow for this match but fulm did his job I now realize he is a must for this deck despite the hefty price tag.
Round 6: D+Taxes Lost 1-2
Don't even want to talk about it, still upset but a ton of goyfs will get er done however, drown in sorrow is our only answer to Mirran Crusader, Be Aware
In the end I wished I had more surgical to play the control route against UWR and Pod. I bought drown in sorrow's after work today to replace golgari#2 and crucible.
4 Dark Confidant
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Scooze
2 Thrun
2 Courser of Kruphix
1 Eternal Witness
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Liliana
2 Dissmember
1 Slaughter Pact
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Putrify
4 Inquisition
3 Thoughtseize
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Marsh Flats
3 Overgrown Tomb
1 Wooded Cemetery
1 Urborg, ToY
4 Tec Edge
4 Treetop
2 Swamp
2 Forest
Sideboard:
2 Creeping Corrosion
2 Obstinant Baloth
2 Golgari Charm
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Spellskite
2 Fulminator Mage
1 Crucible of World's
1 Surgical Extraction
1 Nihil Spellbomb
Round 1: Pod Lost 1-2
Game 1 didn't draw many creatures and got beat up on by his and died to a 2 damage trigger by that 4 drop(forget the name).
Game 2 he got mana screwed and I drew perfect, beat em up and answered all his threats.
Game 3 kind of a slug fest that ended up me losing to Thune combo
sideboarded out 4 lili's brought in 2 cage, 1 spellbomb, 1 surgical
Round 2: UWR Control Won 2-0
Game 1 Thrun
Game 2 Thrun and fulm, now that I know how to play this match up there is NO reason to lose to it. I guess draws might happen.
sideboarded out 4 abrupt decay brought in 2 fulms, 1 surgical, 1 crucible (I now believe that crucible isn't really necessary I left these guys with no land without hitting crucible)
Round 3: UWR Control Draw 1-1-1
Game 1 He got it...luck sac
Game 2 I love thrun
Game 3 Drew b/c I sac'd fulm when I should't have. Could have forced an overtime turn 4 wrath which would have tapped em out. Instead he draws snap and on turn 5 flashes it, I kill it, he targets bolt, only critter on board is a treetop, draw
sideboarde same as above
Round 4: UWR Control Won 2-0
Game 1 Thrun
Game 2 Thrun (are u f in kidding me? they have NO answer to this guy!
sideboarded same as above
Round 5: Merefolk Won 2-1
Game 1 not enough removal to keep up
Game 2 too many critters on my side with just enough removal
Game 3 I won this game on the back of scooze, I had a 10/10 scooze!!!
sideboarded out 4 lili's brought in 2 charm, 2 fulm's
wish I had drown in sorrow for this match but fulm did his job I now realize he is a must for this deck despite the hefty price tag.
Round 6: D+Taxes Lost 1-2
Don't even want to talk about it, still upset but a ton of goyfs will get er done however, drown in sorrow is our only answer to Mirran Crusader, Be Aware
In the end I wished I had more surgical to play the control route against UWR and Pod. I bought drown in sorrow's after work today to replace golgari#2 and crucible.