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Sorry guys another case of endless previews

Am I the only guy on earth that is actually always hungry of previews and waiting one week is already too much for me?
Also, for all other people that suffer from "product fatigue" : learn to limit yourself and ignore the "rumor" sections of social media for a while, instead of whining all the time about it and expect to force WotC to do less products and previews. Nobody force you to have your eyes always open like in clockworks orange to inform you about the new magic products, for god's sake.

"If you don't like something of something you enjoy and have legitimate criticisms then you should completely ignore that thing for a large period of time." Is a terrible piece of advice.

It would be a terrible advice, is that's what I actually said. But since that's not at all what I've meant to say but it's your usual text comprehension issue, it is not at all a terrible piece of advice but a very healthy one for some people that apparently have an unhealthy obsessive and compulsive relationship with -and very probably not only with- this game and are unable to disciplinate themselves to avoid to suffer from the information overload, a real recognized disorder. It's those people I am referring. But of course, since you are functionally illiterate, you will manage to misunderstand and distort completely even this post with the delusion to think to know better than me what I actually meant to say, making unaccurate paraphases of my posts as your typical reply. Luckily, not everybody have your problem, so I am sure the rest of the people reading us have very clear idea of what's my point of view on the matter, so that I don't need to waste my time repeating in vain to you this simple concept you are unable to grasp.

Someone really needs to go away for a long period of time. Hint: It's you.

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No one mentioned Flash with Xander.

So you spend 2 cards to make me discard 3 cards at the absolute most, but often just 1 or 2 cards? Why is this any good?

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That Clue is never getting sacrificed for a card unless the opponent is desperate (or a control deck at the end of your turn)

Um what. Pretty much any type of deck will have incentive and opportunity to sac the clue sooner or later. Even aggro decks will have 2 unspendable mana somewhere around turn 5-7.

So, any artifacts that might become broken if you get to tap them twice as often?

I for one like the idea of UB, but ... Stranger Things? It has practically no mythology or worldbuilding to pull from. The characters are all regular joes who work and go to school, except when they're fighting monsters in a regular town, and the monsters have absolutely no depth to them at all.

This was such a weird choice.

Eh, since this thread has now been necroed, we can all revel in how much the people above suck at evaluating cards

Yeah, after 20 years of supplementary products that you don't have to play with, including My Little Pony and Funko Pops, this is definitely is a step too far!

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Only 4 mana to bring back your favorite creature and 2 elf tokens alongside it? That's good value.

And your second turn.

It's hilarious how crowded turn 2 is generally going to be in KHM games.

Let me get this straight Olivia owns this and is not allowed to run it in any of her commander decks because this is white?

Edgar gets to wear this in his deck and Olivia can wear the Groom's Finery. It'll be fine. It's 2021.

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True, but they were probably sweating bullets for any twitter backlash releasing that Klothys art. Likely had a pre-written explanation/apology ready about ancient Greek attire and all that jazz

Keep imagining things bro

There is nothing they could do that wouldn't be relentlessly lambasted. The things you want are in the set. The things other people want are also in the set. The WotC development team isn't developing to meet your expectations at the expense of everyone else. No set will ever include exactly what you want and nothing else.

This isn't targeted at anyone specifically, just addressing the general sentiments of perpetual disappointment that I find a bit unreasonable.

I'm happy to see phyrexians return. I'm happy to see this new Vorinclex too. It sure will be an expensive one though.

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SJWs in design now?

'buster

We're making the current major global pandemic a PC thing now, are we?
Fair enough WotC wanted to play it safe. This is such a minor thing.

It boggles my mind that people are so stuck on this. Her skin color literally doesn’t matter. They could have made her green with purple spots and it wouldn’t have made a difference. Her skin color is not relevant to her character or story arc. For the love of god people just let it go.

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Presumably because WOTC feel that they must create more powerful black female characters with only positive White qualities (purity, nobility, steadfastness, courage, etc) in order to subvert the intersectional power dynamics and overthrow the cis-normative white supremacist patriarchy, or something like that.

Can we not? Can we just not? Let’s just talk about the card and not about politics when something other than a white male is depicted in the card art for once please?

Wizard's artistic choices are grounded on history and the subversion of dominant power. There is a movement in the United States called the "Black Lives Matter" movement. This came out of the disproportionate amount of police shootings involving unarmed black men. In the United States black populations have come to believe that their lives don't matter due to issues of equity in the country. The movement chose the name Black Lives Matters to specifically highlight the notion that Black Lives have long been ignored when factoring in the wellbeing of a society as a whole. Due to the name of the movement, [white] people are sometimes offended, arguing, "Well, don't all lives matter??" - And of course, the answer is yes, all lives do matter. Yet, despite the universal understanding that all lives matter, there is still a distinct inequality amongst races in the United States, indicating that the notion of all lives mattering isn't really understood by most [white] people. When we say "Black Lives Matter", we really mean "Black Lives Matter (Just As Much As Everyone Else's, But People Seem To Be Ignoring That)." We say this because historically that has not been true - Black Lives Matter is an attempt to subvert historic norms and view black lives through a new lens.

I use this example to connect to WotC's decision to not depict women being dominated by men. Men throughout history have been the dominant sex - putting themselves in positions of power. In much media, there is a tradition of depicting women as the victims. Very often in media men abuse women, and women are allowed to gain agency only through victimhood - i.e. Because you made me a victim, I will now act against my gender norms and seek revenge. This is an issue, as you can imagine - it is an issue when any person, regardless of race or gender, can only receive agency (i.e. power) through the prerequisite of victimhood. When a woman is depicted as dominating a man - and there is no reference to her ever being a victim - then this is what we call cultural subversion. We are going against the norm and depicting an empiric truth that has not otherwise been accepted by society as a whole. It is okay to show women dominating because of the history of sexism. Any negative "ism" - such as Racism and Sexism - is grounded on the establishment of one particular race or gender having an inherent upper hand against the other. It does not go "both ways" - there is no reverse sexism or racism. These isms are based on one specific group dominating another.

When WotC shows a woman dominating a man, they are breaking new ground - they are ignoring cliche traditions that have only hurt women through the ages. When they show men dominating women, they are only upholding outdated beliefs that women are to be dominated eternally by men, and that they can only gain power through victimhood. This misgiving cannot be corrected if we are to continue to show men dominating women. The only way to move past this harmful history is to rewrite the future in terms of equity - women need to be shown in power to correct the wrongs of the past. Men don't need to be seen dominating women because that has already been the norm for centuries, and it has harmed women.

tl;dr: Women dominating men = progressive. Men dominating women = regressive.

At what point will men have suffered enough?

Good lord. Can we stay on the topic of Magic cards in the Magic card forums from now on. No one wants to be harangued with politically-charged dogma. I know I don't want to see the MRA talking points ever again.

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This post is most likely going to get moderated because it's controversial and barely on-topic.

You're right that none of what you brought up was on topic. Can you please not go into a political tirade because you saw a fish woman magically restraining a human man? Save it for 4chan bro.