So far, my prediction was more than accurate. Hogaak Tier 1, nowhere near to being oppressive.
Hard to deny at this point. Honestly I enjoyed the games watching that, more than most Phoenix games I watched, but with Phoenix whiffing on the GP for the first time (I think?) well now people can just say 'everything is fine, nothing to see here!'
No Changes, and with UW x 2 in the GP? lol @ SFM.
There's still top 16/32 which will provide a more accurate picture of Hogaak + other decks' performance.
Not surprised UW did well, it's got so many tools the past year or two.
Yeah we certainly dont know the full story yet, but I am of the opinion that Wizard's puts a dramatic amount of weight behind Top 8, and 'perception'.
Will be interesting to dig into this + SCG + SCG Classic, and see what went down.
So far, my prediction was more than accurate. Hogaak Tier 1, nowhere near to being oppressive.
Hard to deny at this point. Honestly I enjoyed the games watching that, more than most Phoenix games I watched, but with Phoenix whiffing on the GP for the first time (I think?) well now people can just say 'everything is fine, nothing to see here!'
I mean, Phoenix is definitely a quiet offender. It had fantastic results at the MC tournament, but due to limited I don't think Phoenix was properly represented.
I very much think faithless looting is becoming an issue for modern and could go down the road of Probe. No, faithless looting is not to nerf Hoogak decks, it's an overall meta health issue.
I dont know why people continued to say Phoenix was fine. We will see though. If we get 2 or 3 Phoenix in this weekend's Top 8's, I'm laughing and then selling.
They made a statement noting that they thought the new Eldrazi could be an issue with Eye/Temple, but didn't want to be held back in Standard design for a potential issue in Modern.
havnet seen any of the coverage yet, but comical sounds good to me. i hope bridgevine is hilarious in its performance. lets put this to bed sooner rather than later so the format can move on.
Funny thing is I don't know we have seen the ceiling on the deck in terms of its potential lines. Kind of like how Amulet has weird lines, Hogaak can go from a modest board to 'wait what happened' insanely fast.
The angles, and path's this deck can take, is there really anything like it ever? I dont know.
Funny comment just now from Patrick on SCG "Hogaak generates better games than Phoenix" and as someone who played a TON of phoenix, and quickly burns out on it? He's not wrong.
Yeah we certainly dont know the full story yet, but I am of the opinion that Wizard's puts a dramatic amount of weight behind Top 8, and 'perception'.
Will be interesting to dig into this + SCG + SCG Classic, and see what went down.
Hard to deny at this point. Honestly I enjoyed the games watching that, more than most Phoenix games I watched, but with Phoenix whiffing on the GP for the first time (I think?) well now people can just say 'everything is fine, nothing to see here!'
No Changes, and with UW x 2 in the GP? lol @ SFM.
Oh wow. Will be super interested in seeing the lists.
What a mess of a weekend, I love it.
That is a really diverse top 8 out of the GP though.
That would be awesome, he's been on the losing end of that win and in top 8 several times.
Hogaak - 18%
Humans - 7%
Phoenix - 7%
Mono R Phoenix - 6.8%
Burn - 5.5%
E Tron - 5.5%
UW - 5.5%
Jund - 5%
Lets gooooooooo Hogaak Top 8s!
EDIT: SCG Top 8 Pairings.
UR Phoenix/Urza/UR Phoenix
R Phoenix/GW Combo/Humans
Humans/UR Phoenix/UR Phoenix
Hogaak/Humans/Infect
Hogaak/Humans/E Tron
Urza/Burn/Infect
Hogaak/Humans/GDS
UR Phoenix/UR Phoenix/UR Phoenix
If the GP matches that at all, I'm selling some flappy birds tomorrow.
I dont know why people continued to say Phoenix was fine. We will see though. If we get 2 or 3 Phoenix in this weekend's Top 8's, I'm laughing and then selling.
(I got some hate a few weeks back on Twitter for pointing out how powerful Phoenix is, people know.)
These results are really disappointing, no way does it see a ban if they dont have some massive conversion to Top 8.
Funny thing is I don't know we have seen the ceiling on the deck in terms of its potential lines. Kind of like how Amulet has weird lines, Hogaak can go from a modest board to 'wait what happened' insanely fast.
We have only seen the first iterations on this.
Depends on your definition of quiet. There is no deck, in as short a frame other than Eldrazi that matches its Top 8 performances.
I will say watching this Hogaak deck, its amazing.
Hogaak
Bridge from Below
Vengevine
Bloodghast
Carrion Feeder
Altar
Sticher's Supplier
The angles, and path's this deck can take, is there really anything like it ever? I dont know.
Funny comment just now from Patrick on SCG "Hogaak generates better games than Phoenix" and as someone who played a TON of phoenix, and quickly burns out on it? He's not wrong.