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  • posted a message on [ZNR] Sizzling Barrage— LordTupperware preview
    It seems like something Red could have too honestly. As a way to help it be aggressive.
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  • posted a message on The sets of 2021
    The people acting like recent events somehow created things that were made over a year ago are pretty weird. MtG plans far too much in advance for a book this year or recent twitter drama to be the impetus behind things.


    As far as the sets go School of Mages sounds like my place, I love magic. Norse set hopefully is decent but I’m not optimistic. DnD in Magic... eh, not my thing, but we’ve had Magic in DnD so I don’t see the harm. And Innisrad doesn’t appeal to me much, only tribe I like is Spirit from there.
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  • posted a message on Zendikar rising first look on July 25th
    There also is, again, the angel with her spear tipped with bismuth. The Eldrazi will not have any cards. This is consistent with the lore. But the impact they had on the plane will still be felt, still be very present. That’s really all there is to it. Wizards isn’t rewriting history, and everything we’ve seen indicates they’re being consistent. It’s possible these cards are the only Eldrazi references, but that seems unlikely for a number of reasons.
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  • posted a message on Zendikar rising first look on July 25th
    Quote from ashrog »
    Quote from DJK3654 »
    And there will most likely be more Eldrazi on some plane in the future. They did very conspicuously *not* kill off Emrakul,


    With Emrakul trapped but not destroyed, it lets her influence be felt, but only subtly and mysteriously. Many-tentacled things roam a pitch-dark forest. A glob of flesh that was once an entire village swims in the abyssal depths. Masked cultists hail these abominations as gods.

    The Eldrazi have found their true home.


    This too. While I’m not a fan of them on Innistrad the Eldrazi benefit from being there more than Zendikar.


    And again feeling their influence doesn’t require them to be on cards. If the entire world makes zero mention of them that I would agree is an issue. But we already have art of an angel using... I want to call it bismuth but I’m not sure that’s right, mind is drawing a blank. I’m sure there will be many more such references of how Zendikar responds now that they’re gone, and what all that means for the plane. It’s much like how Amonkhet will still have a very palpable Bolas influence even though he’s locked away, or any number of other plane changing events.

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  • posted a message on Zendikar rising first look on July 25th
    Quote from Dontrike »
    Quote from Xeruh »

    As said, the way the lore currently works the Eldrazi are gone. If you wanted to complain about that you missed your window by over four years now.

    Not sure what the hell you mean by this. I played BFZ and it was terrible. I played RoE and it was great.

    I don't care about the Eldrazi specifically just that because people whined like their five that the world of Zendikar loses part of itself. It would be like people getting tired of vampires and they no longer exist on Innistrad. If WotC can just blink things out of existence from worlds then they no longer feel alive and it gives those things a "Why did they exist in the first place if you're just going to get rid of it" sort of feel.

    Sorry, but I'd much rather have worlds that feel alive rather than a company removing crap just because some people didn't like a thing.


    Opinions are subjective and yours is a minority one in this case. But the point is that lore-wise the Eldrazi being wiped out was already explained and expressed in the original Battle for Zendikar/Oath of the Gatewatch sets.

    You also are rather clearly demonstrating you don't know what makes Zendikar what it is when they've been rather straight forward about the Eldrazi being alien invaders, and the majority of fans of Zendikar complaining about them taking over the set. If they felt like a natural extension of the world then they're not doing what they're supposed to do. It's like saying the Phyrexians were a natural part of Mirrodin when, again, they are explicitly outsiders taking it over and subverting it.
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  • posted a message on Zendikar rising first look on July 25th
    Quote from Dontrike »
    Quote from DJK3654 »

    The set is called 'Zendikar Rising'. Why do you think it's 'rising'? Look at some of the art they've revealed already also— the set will very clearly have a theme of being in the aftermath of the Eldrazi. There won't be any actual Eldrazi on plane or on cards, but their former presence will clearly be felt in art and lore.

    Uhuh, no one is claiming that Zendikar isn't healing from the Eldrazi, but the idea that they have all been wiped out and WotC should ignore that they exist(ed) is just silly. Just because BFZ was terrible and Eldrazi got tiring doesn't mean you ignore an active and living world.

    Again, I am not arguing for a set filled with them, but a few in the set isn't going to suddenly mean the eldrazi are coming back full force. You fumigating your house to get rid of ants doesn't mean all ants disappear forever.

    Quote from RSSR »
    The new design space I LOVED that OGW introduced was colorless mana now matters. MaRo has gone on record saying that to do more of that in future sets requires colorless mana resources set aside in the expansion design to make it work, but that’s always something I wish they explore more of, maybe in Zendikar Rising.

    This is something I've been waiting for. They made colorless mana matters and we haven't seen any of it in near five years. It amazes me that there hasn't been one other card since then that requires colorless mana.


    As said, the way the lore currently works the Eldrazi are gone. If you wanted to complain about that you missed your window by over four years now. Your ant analogy is flawed. A better analogy is killing someone means their fingers stop doing things, which again is the equivalent for the Eldrazi. They weren't a hive, they were three giant entities with smaller but still connected pieces.
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  • posted a message on Zendikar rising first look on July 25th
    Quote from Flisch »
    Quote from Xeruh »
    That’s literally what Ugin said though. All of the “spawn” were just pieces of the Eldrazi titans body. You killed the brain/heart equivalent, and all the rest died. You’d have to retcon things for the Eldrazi spawn to survive.

    Using internal consistency to justify anything in Magic is a pretty weak argument (unfortunately) considering how fast and loose Wizards likes to play with canon. Mirrodin was repopulated, the cursemute was reversed (or only partially applied), Nissa was taken over by a bodysnatcher with an entirely different personality. Hell, even the hedrons responded to the eldrazi being freed by reforming into new geometries and were used by them as tools. Then came BfZ and none of that was canon anymore. The hedron formations went back to pre-eldrazi level and suddenly hedrons hurt eldrazi and they avoided them as a result?

    Yeah. Wizards is changing canon on a whim, because superhero comics did it too. And superhero comics were successful. So that must mean having a loose canon must make a franchise successful, right. Let us just totally ignore the context that made superhero comics so popular.

    Also, Wizards (Maro?) said in the past that remnants of the eldrazi still exist on Zendikar. In fact remnants of Emrakul existed when Emrakul had already left the plane. Acting as if all eldrazi immediately die when the titan is no longer there would go against established canon.

    Plus, Ugin's metaphor is not perfect. It is the closest (simple) explanation to how the eldrazi titans work, but not an exhaustive dissertation of the inner workings of eldrazi metabiology.



    It was in response to someone saying Zendikar not having Eldrazi is ignoring its history. While Wizards doesn’t need to follow canon if someone is going to argue that canon matters then they need to abide by that, and no Eldrazi is fitting that. Emrakul wasn’t dead, so her Eldrazi being on Zendikar isn’t an issue, while Maro has repeatedly said he’s not a story guy. Using him as evidence of canon isn’t a good call.
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  • posted a message on Zendikar rising first look on July 25th
    Quote from Dontrike »
    Quote from Xeruh »
    Not... really. The Eldrazi titans are wiped out (and as the lesser Eldrazi are the equivalent of their fingers or the like this takes care of the tiny ones). Unless you want Emrakul to break free and invade there really isn't any Eldrazi to deal with. This is just following the lore they set up. To have more Eldrazi you need to either bring out a new titan (which would not likely be met with resounding success and lead to Zendikar being invaded again) or use Emrakul (which likewise is not really a great option, especially as to do so would be ignoring Innistrad). None of this is ignoring history here.

    That's under the idea that all the Eldrazi were wiped out just because Kozilek and Ulamog were killed, but I'm sure this isn't like taking out the mother ship and the rest of the minions go down.

    No one is really arguing that the set has to be filled with Eldrazi, just that it would be strange to not show any. Personally, I'd be fine with 3-10 Eldrazi cards, and that's it. At the very least seeing art and lore that shows that BFZ happened and not go "don't pay attention to the damage and history over there, look over hereto the full art lands, quests, and traps."



    That’s literally what Ugin said though. All of the “spawn” were just pieces of the Eldrazi titans body. You killed the brain/heart equivalent, and all the rest died. You’d have to retcon things for the Eldrazi spawn to survive.
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  • posted a message on Zendikar rising first look on July 25th
    I'm not sure one instance of Eldrazi being met with success (Eldritch Moon) really qualifies them as a success, especially as the tone and setting are vastly different from how they were on Zendikar. But given you think that Zendikar is a bottom-tier plane not like there is a ton of merit in trying to debate that with you, your opinions are simply radically different from how much people who play Magic feel.
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  • posted a message on Zendikar rising first look on July 25th
    Not... really. The Eldrazi titans are wiped out (and as the lesser Eldrazi are the equivalent of their fingers or the like this takes care of the tiny ones). Unless you want Emrakul to break free and invade there really isn't any Eldrazi to deal with. This is just following the lore they set up. To have more Eldrazi you need to either bring out a new titan (which would not likely be met with resounding success and lead to Zendikar being invaded again) or use Emrakul (which likewise is not really a great option, especially as to do so would be ignoring Innistrad). None of this is ignoring history here.
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  • posted a message on Zendikar rising first look on July 25th
    Yeah, not going to agree with that. We've had full on Zendikar. We've had Eldrazikar. People like the former, and are very mixed on the latter. It's fine to say that you have a preference, but it's pretty silly to act like Zendikar has no identity/is bad/whatever else without the Eldrazi. Or to blame it on Battle for Zendikar when the issue is the Eldrazi in general. People like Zendikar itself, really all there is to it.
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  • posted a message on Home Interview of MaRo by The 'Professor' at Toarian Community College
    Quote from Xeruh »
    Card games are not essential.


    By whose definition? Don't fall for what is being sold to the public right now. Who gets to make these decisions and WHY?



    es·sen·tial
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    adjective
    1.
    absolutely necessary; extremely important.

    By the dictionary definition, it is not essential. Anything else is irrelevant. You're simply being emotional over a logical decision.


    That is your interpretation of the definition. Warfarin may be "essential" to a cardiac patient but it is not for heart healthy people. What is essential for one is not for others. There are degrees, it isn't black and white. All of this is relevant as well, how "emotional" to dispel my questions as if they have no validity. If a person and their families welfare relies on a job it is ESSENTIAL that they perform that job so that they may provide (income) what is truly needed for themselves and their family. Who are we to decide their job as non "essential"? Decisions have been and continue to be made on people's lives wholly without their consent. Selling Magic cards may very well be essential to a lot of people out there, just like selling liquor or pot or dog grooming services. Don't marginalize or ignore their plight in this. They are also victims, albeit to an arguable lesser degree.



    There is no definition by which MtG is "essential". If it has reached that point for an individual that is indicative of a mental illness and they need to seek treatment. Further it's a minority of a minority where someone being unable to purchase Magic cards from a dedicated card shop or play it in person will result in them dying, if that even is realistically plausible.

    Someone losing their job because of COVID is unfortunate, but that doesn't make it essential any more than any other jobs. The issue is that the government should be stepping in to take care of people and provide them with income to help cover that, along with waiving certain costs for things like utilities. That it isn't does not, again, mean that those jobs are essential. That one may think thousands of people dying is an acceptable loss so long as they can continue to play card games is indicative of needing to, at least, ponder the situation better. Again, no definition of MtG, specifically in the context of dedicated card shops, is essential. No one should live or die based on being able to play in shops, and again, if that is remotely possible then they need psychiatric help. Given that hospitals and such are still active they should seek that out instead of trying to push for situations that will simply result in needless, pointless death on a ridiculously excessive scale.
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  • posted a message on Home Interview of MaRo by The 'Professor' at Toarian Community College
    Card games are not essential.


    By whose definition? Don't fall for what is being sold to the public right now. Who gets to make these decisions and WHY?



    es·sen·tial
    See definitions in:
    adjective
    1.
    absolutely necessary; extremely important.

    By the dictionary definition, it is not essential. Anything else is irrelevant. You're simply being emotional over a logical decision.
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  • posted a message on Home Interview of MaRo by The 'Professor' at Toarian Community College
    How utterly baffling. Card games are not essential. End of discussion. Entertainment stores in general aren't essential. While entertainment broadly I would argue is, there are other avenues.

    As for the interview, honestly not like more can be expected. Just is what it is.
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  • posted a message on Theros Novel
    Given everything going on it’s likely not a high priority.
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