Quote from hagbard2210 »some thoughts from me.
I tested the list the last 2 hours.
- plays super smooth without the rhinos and mana dorks and the white is only a little slpash for the lingering souls. Tasigur is mostly a 2-3 drop.
- darkblast is a reak bomb!
- nice manabase
- dark confidant does some work. board it out in aggro matchups.
- no rhinos, no lifegain in creature form
- no path to exile
- no gavony township
- junk cons.. no bolt, no anger of gods,
Quote from jblackmor »I posted about my Rock deck a week and a half ago, and asked for suggestions/thoughts but no one responded because no one likes straight B/G Rock! [post#1567 in this thread]
But, for those of you thinking Obliterator Rock is dead, it's not... I just got 12th place at the 220 man SCG event in Dallas, beating two pros along the way.
Decklist for reference: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=84978
((Changes since last post: -Setessan Tactics, -Garruk Wildspeaker, -Woodland Cemetery; +Slaughter Pact, +Phyrexian Obliterator #3, +Twilight Mire))
I won't go into all the detail unless you specifically ask, but I'll tell you what I played against and some of the cards that worked well.
W: Bogles (that deck is almost a bye for B/G decks)
W: Soul Sisters
W: Jund (Todd Anderson)
W: Grixis Twin
W: Burn (Anthony Lowry)
W: Robots, with Tarmogoyf
Few small notes:
- I was able to cast Obliterator with Treetop, Treetop, Tectonic Edge and Urborg once.(I almost think I want a second Urborg.)
- I beat Todd Anderson on two lands after he Fulminator Mage'd me three times in one game (two hard-cast, and Kolaghan's Command getting one back) because I was able to cheat in a Baloth on the command that he was never able to answer.
- Vampire Nighthawks were good against both burn and affinity.
- Crux of Fate is only because I don't own Damnation (but it should be that if you want to play my list).
- Bow of Nylea was super good against Robots. (gain 3 life, or shoot your flier EVERY SINGLE turn)
- Leyline was for Storm, Protean Hulk, Living End and Delve decks but I never boarded it in because I didn't see those decks (still like it as a one-of though).
- Victim of Night was so good all day (killing an Inkmoth when I was at eight poison, for example). (Only time it was "bad" was against Todd's Olivia; otherwise, it was an all-star.)
Deck felt real strong, and I'm honestly thinking of taking it to GP Charlotte next month.
Quote from BeavisAndDunhill »My name is Doug and I live in Vallejo, and can host small casual groups. Looking to play Vintage until I get enough standard cards together. Not really into EDH.
I haven't played since Zendikar. Even then I wasn't all that good because I had no friends that wanted to buy/build their own decks, so I knew all their decks. I got destroyed anytime I went to Eudemonia. It didn't occur to me until later that I would benefit from religiously studying every card, as opposed to just the ones I had. I just enjoyed the artwork and playing with my friends. I have one Vintage deck at the moment, and I'm looking into buying more cards soon. I have a buddy coming over Monday to school me so maybe he'll loan me a deck or two. I'm 28.
Quote from agnos1888 »I got my Pacts confused. Guess I've sold too many parts of my soul and I need to pay up a bit. While Pact of Negation does get significantly better in Junk if you're running Heirarchs, I still don't recommend it anywhere in the 75
Quote from Sagarra »Hi, Im trying to build a more agresive version of the deck, because in the last tournaments(FNM,not big thing) I got screwed for good. Of course it depends on the pairings, but I lost against U tron, Burn(i couldnt draw any "kitchen"in the 2 games)and Twin. Probably bad luck drawing cards or the gods of magic where against me. Anyway, I´m trying this week with a more agresive version of the deck. I will like to ask about the mana base though.
Voice of Resurgencex4
Path to Exilex4
As you see I dropped all the control part(inquisition, abrupt decay, etc...) to add more agresive creatures, keeping only the confidants, rinos and lingering souls flashback as black spalsh. Im considering changing some creatures for making space to scavenging ooze. No goyfs for now.
Do you think this could work?
Wich lands will you set aside for including ghost quarter or another anti-tron land?
Thank you for your advice.
Quote from David_Scratchelhoff »Good call on victim of night, I'll try it asap.
I've had 2 Tasigur in my sideboard whenever I cut Bob out
Quote from hagbard2210 »Short questions:
Is there a "best" abzan list right now? I see a lot of list with noble hierachs, or birds of paradise and doran and some list without mana dorks and dorans.
Some jund list playing now with outpost siege. Its time for phyrexian arena in abzan?
Why no bob and leave tasigur out of the list? card advantage wins games. and its only real bad against zoo and burn.
Quote from WenSon »wanna go to my first modern event for month's and plan to play junk, so i check out what is currently played
vs what decks would you want thrun ?
i allways used to play him vs jund, but jund is barely played anymore, since people go junk. and vs junk i think sigarda is the better card
or am i wrong ?
Quote from WenSon »so here is my decklist, i dont have inquisition,bob,goyf or more lili. i can only play the cards i have ^^
WenSon's Crap PileMagic OnlineOCTGN2ApprenticeBuy These Cards
Creatures4 Loxodon Smiter3 Scavenging Ooze4 Siege Rhino2 Tasigur, the Golden FangSpells4 Thoughtseize4 Abrupt Decay3 Path to Exile1 Murderous Cut2 Dromoka's Command1 Maelstrom Pulse4 Lingering SoulsRandom1 BitterblossomWalker2 Liliana of the Veil1 Garruk Relentless1 Sorin, Solemn VisitorLands4 Marsh Flats4 Windswept Heath2 Horizon Canopy1 Vault of the Archangel1 Treetop Village2 Stirring Wildwood1 Plains1 Forest1 Swamp1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth2 Overgrown Tomb2 Godless Shrine1 Temple GardenSideboard2 Timely Reinforcements1 Wrath of God1 Blood Baron of Vizkopa1 Damping Matrix2 Golgari Charm2 Kitchen Finks2 Lifebane Zombie1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence1 Sigarda, Host of Herons2 Rest in Peace
cards i also have and could play:
if you have some advice if i should replace anything or switch to a more aggro deck, please tell me
Courser of Kruphix (run him as a pseudo bob replacement?)Qasali Pridemage; Noble HierarchThalia, Guardian of Thraben,Thrun, the last Troll,Batterskull,Zealous Persecution(should i run 1 copy main with souls and blossom?),Thragtusk,Restoration Angel, Tidehollow Sculler,Sidisi, Undead Vizier
(i could actually play the list posted by TribalElfMage above)
i would really appreciate some tips. is my deck playable ? what is his weakness ?
i will go to a PPTQ with estimated 30-40 players.
Quote from Havrekjex »Let's talk strategy. I'm often not sure how suicidal I should allow myself to be on turn 1.
It's G1, you don't know your opponent's deck, you're on the play. You mull to six and start with fetchland, Godless Shrine, Plains, Thoughtseize, Goyf, Liliana. When do you Thoughtseize?