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  • posted a message on [IKO] Pouncing shoreshark
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    um...it should be creature - whale beast (because I suppose dolphins are whales in magic)

    who is it?
    plumber.
    plumber I didn't ask for a plumber - who is it?
    telegram
    oh telegram? Just a moment
    NANANANA

    What is it?
    Landshark - cleverest species of them all...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_NS2H55dxI

    OMG - this set is all pop references...


    Only thing I can think of is that sharks aren't mammals so they can't be whales?
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  • posted a message on [IKO] landfall TV - Barrier Breach
    Thing is, we saw a singleton of the Amonkhet one fairly often during Amonkhet standard and enchantments weren't as prevelant then. But, cycling support may also be less parasitic this time around, so there's a very good chance we will see this just for cycling it.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] NumotofNummy - Migration path
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    Even then, it would still be strictly better. Just like how Lightning Bolt is still strictly better than Lightning Strike despite the existence of Mental Misstep. There will always be a card that punishes the exact qualities that make a card strictly better.


    I've always believed in the strict definition of strictly better. Wink


    I disagree with this sentiment. From a player perspective it comes down to if you were given a choice of one or the either, you'd pick the objectively superior version every time.

    From a statistical standpoint there's probably a good 16000 cards in MTG. Even if they printed 2 hoser cards the odds of it being better is 99.99% of all given scenarios. And honestly I would consider 0.01% of instances a statistically insignificant event. So, yes, this card would be strictly better mathematically speaking too.


    Ah, but historically, strictly better is an academic exercise, more than anything else. Is this better? Absolutely, and I'll play it in EDH, maybe even standard and I do agree with your logic, but strictly better is all about splitting hairs.


    It is an academic exercise, yes. But to include statistically insignificant instances makes what would have been an academic exercise into "what if" for unlikely situations. Coming from an engineering background, even statistically insignificant events are disregarded because they're that, insignificant. They exist but shouldn't be regarded.

    Now if there was say many cycling hosers and some were super pushed beyond being a balanced card, sure I'd agree with the idea of it not being strictly better, but as stands, even printing a handful of hosers with some upside just wouldn't push the needle


    Yes, I think that's a fair place to draw the line.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Shark Typhoon
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    OK, between Lukka, all the Godzilla cards, King Kong, Jaws and now this, this whole set seems hellbent on making references that make me laugh out loud.

    As for the card itself, it's technically one of those "overpriced do-nothing Enchantment" cards, but it works very well in Fires of Invention decks, and I could see some Fires builds running this as a sideboard option against Control. It's either a very threatening Enchantment that racks up quick advantage if left unchecked or an uncounterable big flier that draws you a card and allows you to get around Fires's casting restriction at your opponent's turn.


    You missed a mode, for 2U its a flash chump blocker that draws a card.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] NumotofNummy - Migration path
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    Love it - replacing explosive vegetation in every instance. Does this fulfill the "strictly better" definition?


    Until they print a card that specifically punishes other cards for having cycling it does. As far as I know no such card exists today but if there were "2UU, counter target spell. This spell costs 2 less if it targets a spell with cycling", then it stops being strictly better. (I'm not sure if that templating would work - does the spell have cycling while it's on the stack or is that only a trait of the card while it's in your hand?).


    Even then, it would still be strictly better. Just like how Lightning Bolt is still strictly better than Lightning Strike despite the existence of Mental Misstep. There will always be a card that punishes the exact qualities that make a card strictly better.


    I've always believed in the strict definition of strictly better. Wink


    I disagree with this sentiment. From a player perspective it comes down to if you were given a choice of one or the either, you'd pick the objectively superior version every time.

    From a statistical standpoint there's probably a good 16000 cards in MTG. Even if they printed 2 hoser cards the odds of it being better is 99.99% of all given scenarios. And honestly I would consider 0.01% of instances a statistically insignificant event. So, yes, this card would be strictly better mathematically speaking too.


    Ah, but historically, strictly better is an academic exercise, more than anything else. Is this better? Absolutely, and I'll play it in EDH, maybe even standard and I do agree with your logic, but strictly better is all about splitting hairs.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Mythos of Brokkos
    Diabolic Tutorwhere the second one buys back the first? This has memories of Den Warden and Ever After written all over it. This is going to be fun while in standard.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Shark Typhoon
    Well this is a heck of a blue control finisher and beautiful in a creatureless deck with Commence the endgame

    Also a helluva pop culture reference.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] NumotofNummy - Migration path
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    Love it - replacing explosive vegetation in every instance. Does this fulfill the "strictly better" definition?


    Until they print a card that specifically punishes other cards for having cycling it does. As far as I know no such card exists today but if there were "2UU, counter target spell. This spell costs 2 less if it targets a spell with cycling", then it stops being strictly better. (I'm not sure if that templating would work - does the spell have cycling while it's on the stack or is that only a trait of the card while it's in your hand?).


    Even then, it would still be strictly better. Just like how Lightning Bolt is still strictly better than Lightning Strike despite the existence of Mental Misstep. There will always be a card that punishes the exact qualities that make a card strictly better.


    I've always believed in the strict definition of strictly better. Wink
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Rielle, the Everwise
    Well gosh darn if that isn't exactly what loot and spells matter need. This thing is a homerun as far as Im concerned.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] General Kudro of Drannith — Ikoria product page preview
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    Soo that is the Big Bad human of the story? looks like a old man that can't do much on a fight against a giant kaiju(good thematic abilities i may say, he is the inspiration for the other humans to even go kamikaze mode). The card looks good and with a very build around theme. Guess this old man is full of prejudice against monsters...


    Yes, but he has not been killed yet so that is inherently inspiring.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Abalroador da Mata de Quartzo (BRKsEDU preview)
    Is this a full grown version of the monster that Proud Willbonder bonds with? Same tusks and horns concept but different porportions, both care about trample, share a colour. It should belong to the blue wedge but I guess not having any blue in it's color identity means it doesn't get to be an elemental.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] NumotofNummy - Migration path
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    Love it - replacing explosive vegetation in every instance. Does this fulfill the "strictly better" definition?


    Until they print a card that specifically punishes other cards for having cycling it does. As far as I know no such card exists today but if there were "2UU, counter target spell. This spell costs 2 less if it targets a spell with cycling", then it stops being strictly better. (I'm not sure if that templating would work - does the spell have cycling while it's on the stack or is that only a trait of the card while it's in your hand?).
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Boon of the Wish-Giver — PVDDR Preview
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    I'm curious about this Illuna character. If it's the creature in the pic, we may be looking at the first "Dragon Angel Sphinx".


    Incorrect it’s a “beast elemental Dinosaur”


    Source?


    The Card
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Mana rocks with cycling — Lords of Limited preview
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    3 color wedge fixing looks better than shards (between those and the banners).

    I have a Theory for what was the inspiration for ikoria, and as odd as it is i think they got the inspiration for ikoria from the "there are no trees" tale from flat earthers XD ("the trees from today earth are bushes and the giant trees of the past are in fact some cliffs are what is left from those ancient trees") https://qz.com/1627048/why-flat-earthers-dont-believe-in-trees/ .

    It kinda matchs the time frame for the set as that nonsense came in 2016 (i remember cause i made a rpg campaing based on the idea Grin ) and now we know there are massive Crystals over the land that is if i m not mistaken another part of the conspiracy theory xD, it was not the bad weed the inspiration for ikoria XD


    I mean, who can say really, but going forwards I now know that flat earthers don't believe in trees and that has made my day infinitely richer. That being said, the idea of massive crystals is a recurring fantasy/sci-fi trope that has shown up in the fiction for many decades. I know I have used it in a (failed) project of my own and I was in part using it because it was a reference to other properties ("inside jokes" was a recurring theme in this project). Honestly, I suspect there's a whiteboard somewhere at Wizards HQ with a few dozen tropes on it waiting to be turned into planes.


    I mean, part of the theory if i m not mistaken was that there was also giants made from quartz or something like that that feed of the "true trees" and then some "eletromagnetic apocalipse" happened and made the trees and the giants into stones (for them thats why there are rocks and mountains that looks like animals, giants, and dinosaurs, etc). The giants got extinct after all the trees died or something like that.

    (*silicon life forms) XD

    oh boy:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PPA9OcpPTc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVMS0J4Z6R8 (this one even says plane for earth and the "giant plane" in resume they come into earth to take resources and do other things, and this caused alot of destruction to earth, because of that ancient humans went agaisnt them. This is from 3-4 years ago)
    I remember seeing a video that said a eletromagnetic event made the giants and the trees into rocks, with lots of images but did not found a similar one to post here.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBhP9Rgxg7g (an animation from 3 y using this theme, just to show that "it got popular")


    Okay, those are some extremely cool what if's but What If is not grounds for factual exploration of our world. Gotta respect the imagination, just wish it was funnelled in a healthier direction.

    Edit: The final animation is really quite sweet.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Phase dolphin
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    Yes, that's fair. For the body tacked onto the effect I will buy it. I was thinking more in terms of constructed, as a combo piece but I didn't specify. So, yeah... in limited a high pick common for sure.


    High pick ? nah, its barely playable as it is, as you want to mutate on it all day long and then it cant give itself unblockable.

    And you dont really want to attack with this in a giant monster of the opponent, this just dies.


    You want it gum up the ground, or least block 3 power worth of damage each turn until you've got a good reason to swing with it. I wouldn't use it as a mutation base in of itself, but I've lost to blue strategies with 0/5s low on the curve enough to respect this thing. Then, when you are ready you don't really care if you are throwing it away to get those last 15 points of damage through.
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