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  • posted a message on Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
    Well I got completely destroyed by a Mizzix of the Izmagnus deck yesterday. Like the game was going poorly in my favor but I was still holding my own. Turn 6 I dropped a Mycosynth Lattice on the field to try and even out my mana based (and potentially help a friend's mana base as well as he was drawing poor land drops) The Mizzix player cast High Tide followed by a Shattering Spree and cleared both our fields except for my lattice. -_-* Game was over at that point. A turn later he somehow set up infinite turns. But on the flip side he traded me a foil Japanese Possibility Storm so that was pretty cool
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  • posted a message on Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
    Quote from LordRewind »
    Also I have switched out my Semblance Anvil, Ancient Ziggurat, and Fabricate
    Replaced them with: Metalworker, Mana Confluence, and Recurring Insight

    Once I know how it works I intend to switch out Muzzio, Visionary Architect for Ice Cave

    Also Also So apparently this deck has caused a few players some distress as of late. One in particular has specifically built a R/U counter/control deck. And by that I mean his objective is to counter everything he can and steal or copy anything of use of mine. He explicitly told me he built it to prey on my deck.
    Friday he used Acquire to take my Blightsteel and then somehow flashed it back to take my Darksteel Forge. Telling me that it was half of my "infinite combo." So I Cyclonic Rift(ed) the field. And then cast Praetor's Grasp, took his original Kozilek, Butcher of Truth and cast it the next turn with Lightning Greaves on the field. And the next I hardcast Blightsteel and equipped the Greaves. He never quite recovered.


    Seems like good swap outs, that said, Semblance Anvil can be fun in this deck if you have the extra card advantage and dont need a certain card in hand as bad as all that mana reduction can help you. Its an allstar card in a Mishra-Storm build.

    Great story btw, must've felt great to have your opponent tutor FOR you Evil Lol


    Ahh ok thank you for the explanation. That's how I thought it would work but I wasn't 100% sure. I wanted to check since earlier that Friday I lost a modern game to a Grishoalbrand Deck. I didn't know at what point was the correct step to respond to a trigger, I took a guess and turned out to be wrong. And yeah him tutoring for me was pretty funny.

    Last week I was playing a guy with my Mishra deck. he was playing some mono black reanimation deck. He asked me, with a snarky tone, if I minded quick games? I was like honestly I'm not a fan of them. He then asked what kind of deck I was running. I told him that I would answer after the match. He kept pushing and told me his was combo and that it usually went off turn 4. He was like "So now that you know what I'm running I'll ask again, what is yours?" I responded "Chaos" and dropped Possibility Storm on the field. He did finally beat me but it took him a solid hour to get together what he needed to do it. (I kept him locked out from his combo with Portcullis but at the cost of my inability to play creatures of my own.) Afterwards he asked me "So what the hell is the win condition that deck." I told him that I didn't really think there was any one win condition, it kinda just comes together only sometimes it doesn't. To which he told me that wasn't a good response. I then asked him "Would have prefer I said Chaos again?" with a smile and he vocally was like "ugh" and stormed off.

    Later a friend told me that he was telling some people near the store entrance about how I wasted his time. All I could do was laugh.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
    Quote from LordRewind »

    Ice Cave + Mycosynth Lattice + Mana (unwinding clock or infinite combo) = counter all opponents spells. They cannot counter yours due to mishra's ability if you stack your triggers properly.


    Ok seeing as how I have all the needed pieces, please tell me exactly how would this be done cause I sometimes have trouble with triggers on the stack.

    Also I have switched out my Semblance Anvil, Ancient Ziggurat, and Fabricate
    Replaced them with: Metalworker, Mana Confluence, and Recurring Insight

    Once I know how it works I intend to switch out Muzzio, Visionary Architect for Ice Cave

    Also Also So apparently this deck has caused a few players some distress as of late. One in particular has specifically built a R/U counter/control deck. And by that I mean his objective is to counter everything he can and steal or copy anything of use of mine. He explicitly told me he built it to prey on my deck.
    Friday he used Acquire to take my Blightsteel and then somehow flashed it back to take my Darksteel Forge. Telling me that it was half of my "infinite combo." So I Cyclonic Rift(ed) the field. And then cast Praetor's Grasp, took his original Kozilek, Butcher of Truth and cast it the next turn with Lightning Greaves on the field. And the next I hardcast Blightsteel and equipped the Greaves. He never quite recovered.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    Quote from DarkReckoning »
    Quote from Esperino »
    Certainly an interesting and creative tech choice, I like it a lot. Personally if I was going after their lands I'd Spreading Seas them... or, you know, whatever the black card for that is (has been brought up before). I still think I'll wait for the meta to adjust and police itself at least a little bit but I imagine Affinity and Infect will be more problematic, in that order, so I'm dusting off my set of Disfigures for sideboarding purposes. Anyway, I digress. Painter's Servant seems a very cool way to tackle the Eldrazi problem.


    The cards you may be thinking of are Evil Presence and Contaminated Ground. I've been playing around with them in an MBC Devotion deck prior to the recent Pro Tour. I haven't had much chance to test against the current colorless Eldrazi builds, but I used them to nasty effect against the Black Eldrazi decks, typically losing to either mana screw or mana flood. Otherwise, life was pretty good. I have no doubt that 8Rack can be tweaked to take advantage of this, as they also manage to hit the Wastes that Blood Moon misses.

    Chalice of the Void may be a good reason to start running Distress in the sideboard, as well.


    I actually already had Contaminated Ground in my sideboard cause like 4 players at my LCS ran Tron regularly lol
    Posted in: Modern Archives - Deck Creation
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    Can I just say off to the side my surprise at the cost of ensnaring bridge and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth going up.

    I mean on one hand its kinda neat since it officially makes 8rack more expensive then my B/U mill deck. (They were pretty even for a long time)
    What brought it about? Is it the eldrazi? I can understand Bridge but if so, why Urborg as well?
    Posted in: Modern Archives - Deck Creation
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    Quote from MemoryLapse »
    BTW guys, Painter's Servant works pretty well for us against Eldrazi. It turns off Temple and Eye and Even Ancient Stirrings! I wanted to mention something - Eldrazi is obsoleting Tron currently. This means that our worst matchup is being phased out in favor of this Eldrazi thing. Now Eldrazi is good and in no way to be considered a super easy match, but it's infinitely better than our Tron match was.

    Check out these videos:

    8Rack vs Eldrazi 1
    8Rack vs Eldrazi 2




    It went from an average of $10-$11 to $35 -_-* Without a doubt for that very reason.
    Posted in: Modern Archives - Deck Creation
  • posted a message on Shadows over innistrad leaks?
    The real question though... What is everyone's first pick out of this pack?


    Honestly I don't draft so if forced either:
    a) the card I know is worth the most
    b) the card that best fits my existing deck interests

    With that said Invasive Surgery cause I love the flavor
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Shadows over innistrad leaks?
    Quote from SimicNuggets »
    Being that Nahiri and Sorin traveled the multiverse for years and had a mentor apprentice relationship, and Sorin seeing her as a daughter, I'd say their dynamic would be that of an abandoned child/student and shameful guardian. Especially given the fact that's exactly what the gist is that we know of: Sorin not upholding his promise to come to Zendikar aid and Nahiri having to pick up the pieces herself.

    Just personally don't see the estranged lovers angle.


    Ahhh somehow I never caught the many years teacher part. (Time to read some character wiki pages)
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Shadows over innistrad leaks?
    Quote from Swithin »

    Anyway, my guess would be mono-red or WR Vampire Nahiri, bringing down Emrakul-sized vengeance on Sorin and his "necessary evils" in the pursuit of keeping his vampiric race alive. Furthermore, given the next set's name, my guess would be that Emmy was either summoned to the plane *through* Innistrad's moon, or some aspect of her has been inside the moon for centuries and is partly the cause of it's strange effects which Tamiyo has been studying. I would absolutely love to see her again (with a card or otherwise,) contributing the final clue necessary (in all likelihood for Junior Detective Jace) to solve the mystery.

    [edit:] I wrote this in a rush this morning in response to seeing the text orlouge82 quoted. Rereading it now, while a failed romance between Nahiri and Sorin would be both conventional and interesting, it just struck me that Sorin wouldn't need any extra motivation to want Nahiri immortal: she, he, and Ugin are to their knowledge all required to combat and contain the Eldrazi should they remerge. The violation being a result of a relationship would also make it so that Nahiri would be a domestic-abuse/basically-rape survivor, and this subject matter might too heady to be printed directly on cards. I also noticed that I assumed the conversation between Sorin and Ugin is happening in the post-FRF present, which might not be the case.


    Yeah after reading the Nahiri story, the vampire origins story (for context), and the Sorin and Ugin story. My immediate first impression was they were more then just friends, at least for a time. At the end of Nahiri's story when she left she seemed annoyed and concerned about him. But she also seemed excited at the idea of seeing him again. Something clearly occurred in that 1000 years from when she fixed the hedron system and when looking for Sorin. Did he turn her into a vampire? I dunno. It's possible. Since she was an old walker (pre-mending) did the act of the mending strip her of her immortality? (I'm admittedly not sure what the lasting effects were on the old walkers)
    Of course all this means nothing if most of her personal stop the eldrazi story isn't cannon. I understand they changed the vampire thing, but did they invalidate the entire story in the process?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
    Way I view it is Sphinx of the Final Word can't stop my Possibility Storm so meh. Neat card, but not something I have any personal use for.
    On a potentially related note however, I'm currently eyeing a recently added Nether Void at one of my local card shops. Like I don't really have the money for it atm. But at the same time my rationalizing is that the card has no where to go but up -_-*
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
    Understandable. Being sick sucks man.

    The Thopter Spy Network is my newest addition as so far I have yet to get a chance to test it out. but the making tokens aka blockers seems like a decent plan as my local meta tends to be light on trample.

    As for Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker I have yet to hard cast it. Instead I usually let possibility storm work its magic. I don't really intend for it to be uses as a crunch card, though i suppose it could be if necessary. It's more of a "if it hits the field fun things happen, for me, and if he gets ignored the game tips heavily in my favor" kinda card. Admittedly he's a placeholder right now but one that works well in the deck.
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  • posted a message on Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
    Well I've been following this thread now for a bit over 4 months during which time I keep forgetting about the whole posting my deck list thing. So while I'm sitting here looking at the deck with nothing to do what better time then now eh?

    DeckMagic OnlineOCTGN2ApprenticeBuy These Cards
    Commander (1)
    1x Mishra, Artificer Prodigy

    Artifact (20)
    1x Chromatic Lantern
    1x Cloud Key
    1x Coalition Relic
    1x Crawlspace
    1x Darksteel Forge
    1x Gilded Lotus
    1x Lightning Greaves
    1x Mirrorworks
    1x Mycosynth Lattice
    1x Nevinyrral's Disk
    1x Portcullis
    1x Sculpting Steel
    1x Semblance Anvil
    1x Skeleton Shard
    1x Sol Ring
    1x Tangle Wire
    1x Thran Dynamo
    1x Torpor Orb
    1x Trading Post
    1x Unwinding Clock

    Creature (22)
    1x Arcum Dagsson
    1x Blightsteel Colossus
    1x Burnished Hart
    1x Clever Impersonator
    1x Darksteel Colossus
    1x Duplicant
    1x Etched Champion
    1x Etherium Sculptor
    1x Feldon of the Third Path
    1x Goblin Welder
    1x Junk Diver
    1x Kuldotha Forgemaster
    1x Master Transmuter
    1x Muzzio, Visionary Architect
    1x Myr Retriever
    1x Phyrexian Metamorph
    1x Scarecrone
    1x Solemn Simulacrum
    1x Steel Hellkite
    1x Thada Adel, Acquisitor
    1x Vedalken Archmage
    1x Wurmcoil Engine

    Enchantment (6)
    1x Blood Funnel
    1x Planar Chaos
    1x Possibility Storm
    1x Rhystic Study
    1x Spreading Plague
    1x Thopter Spy Network

    Instant (5)
    1x Arcane Denial
    1x Chaos Warp
    1x Cyclonic Rift
    1x Hurkyl's Recall
    1x Thirst for Knowledge

    Land (37)
    1x Academy Ruins
    1x Ancient Ziggurat
    1x Blood Crypt
    1x Bloodstained Mire
    1x City of Brass
    1x Command Tower
    1x Crosis's Catacombs
    1x Crumbling Necropolis
    1x Dragonskull Summit
    1x Drowned Catacomb
    1x Evolving Wilds
    1x Ghost Quarter
    1x Great Furnace
    4x Island
    1x Mishra's Factory
    4x Mountain
    1x Reliquary Tower
    1x Scorched Ruins
    1x Seat of the Synod
    1x Strip Mine
    1x Sulfurous Springs
    4x Swamp
    1x Temple of Deceit
    1x Temple of Malice
    1x Terramorphic Expanse
    1x Underground River
    1x Vault of Whispers
    1x Watery Grave

    Planeswalker (3)
    1x Daretti, Scrap Savant
    1x Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
    1x Tezzeret the Seeker

    Sorcery (6)
    1x All Is Dust
    1x Chain Reaction
    1x Fabricate
    1x Praetor's Grasp
    1x Scrap Mastery
    1x Vandalblast



    Pretty close to the stock list, -the lands, I feel. Totally got a foil of Mishra too cause it only seemed right. Any questions, comments, concerns leave them here. I promise to get back to you far sooner then my habitual 1-4 month average -_-*
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  • posted a message on 8Rack
    Quote from steven11788 »
    [quote from="kmp101 »" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/developing-competitive-modern/574097-8rack?comment=3027"]Hi Everyone,

    Is the deck viable without Liliana? Would love to try out 8Rack but dont want to make the investment as I have never played modern before.
    However, I already own a full set of Thoughtseize. [/quote

    it is do-able but not really worth it IMO< i ran necrogentic mists before my lilies came, my win rate improved drastically with them


    ^^^ What he said, Necrogen Mists is your best replacement bet, but I can say without a doubt having borrowed a friend's Lilies for one FNM that the card is invaluable to the overall deck. But for now I'm back to running the Mists
    Posted in: Modern Archives - Deck Creation
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    Bloom titan is a hard match up for us cause optimally it's so much faster. But if they have an amulet in hand I take that every single time cause without it they cannot pull the deck shenanigans. But that's just me.
    Posted in: Modern Archives - Deck Creation
  • posted a message on Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
    Quote from LordRewind »
    I played one 4 man game last friday with Mishra. Turn two the guy across from me dropped a Kataki, War's Wage on the field and I more or less got locked out for the rest of the game. By the time I could really do anything it was too late.
    Thats definitely a serious problem card for the deck, and Kataki can be a general which just ruins our day. Is that a frequent card in your meta - and was he a commander or one of the 99?

    if he is a commander, clearly youve got a serious problem. this deck requires artifacts to function as desired, and hes a nightmare for artifact based strategies. If hes one of the 99, hes less of an issue - just add a little more spot removal to your build in the form of versatile cards and you should be able to come up with a solution in time. that said, a turn 2 Kataki pretty much ensures a rough game for this deck.


    Nah it was just one of the 99. Can't remember what his general actually was just that the deck was green white. Tried to convince the other players to get it off the field for me but two of the three were mad at me for the previous game. I had dropped a Leonin arbiter on the field to try and slow down anther players Momir Vig, Simic Visionary general but in the end another player ended up very angry cause he couldn't fetch out lands.
    No good deed goes unpunished I suppose :/
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