Yeah I'm not so bad at mafia that I'd defend him this vicariously if we were partners. I feel like you should know that though.
This is a weird thing to say to someone you've never played with before. Why do you think mal is scum? I see some accusations in your ISO that haven't really gone anywhere.
As someone who has played with mal literally more than anyone here (don't quote me on that, Citrus), I'm like 85% certain he's town.
As scum in a recent game, he softballed questions to town but grilled (read: paid noticable attention to) his buddies. He chainsaw defended his teammates. His posts were crafted awkwardly, trying to sound town.
Did anyone think he was scum earlier, or only now that he's doubled down on Mindreaver?
mal already answered, but he absolutely tunneled the ***** out of dC in the game he linked (CatHunt). Uh. My overall experience with mal isn't so much that he tunnels, but he tries to have his vote on the most useful wagon he can, while keeping up interactions with as many people as possible and prodding the lurkers/abstainers every now and again to do things and establish connections between people for later analysis. I wouldn't have said he tunnels, really. But this is me going off of memory and not paging through our past games together.
@CitricBase
My mal read that you asked about a long time ago is: probably my most confident townread. I'm working against the background of WH14, where he was bit of an awkward mess. So far he seems incredibly natural and has probably put in the most effort to solve the game thus far. He's making five-posts-in-a-row, which suggests a certain confidence, like "hi hello yes I am not scum therefore I am never in any danger of slipping, these are my thoughts and you will take all of them into consideration, tia."
@mal
I had a paranoia!scumread on Citrus earlier because I know he was excited to get into another mafia game but was lurking a bit at the beginning of this one. I also had a conflicting "he forgot the game started and I think that's more likely to come from town" read, the same one I gave to LTH (??) I think, in whatever recent WH it was where he got replaced by Proph. I think I'm okay with him now, I did just list him in my towncircle, but I need to go back and check out his posts again to be sure I wasn't just happy seeing him have more posts.
Before looking back,
Vaimes
mallorean_thug
Rhand
tomsloger
CitricBase
Gentleman Johnny
Matowar77
Mindreaver
Killjoy
Bottom four aren't really in order. I can't remember any of GJ's posts after his No Lynch thing; Killjoy I have to see what he's been doing since I stopped interacting with him; Mindreaver I thought started out okay but obviously warrants another look. A lot of his posts seem to be solely defending himself against Rhand. And Mato, I dunno. He's new-ish, I suck at reading new people. I'll sort them eventually. Coming around to scum!Mindreaver based on mal's points, and I know Rhand's gonna "lolbussing" at me but I'll let him have the tiny victory it's no doubt going to inspire in him (which I will then heartlessly crush at some point either via NK or the game ending, because I have a town role PM).
Can you cite a scumgame of Mindreaver's where he appeased or played dumb?
@Mindreaver
Could you give your reads on tom, mal, and Killjoy? I know you said you're null on me, but I am the top poster and I think I've been pretty straightforward and open in my thought process; I'd like you to try a little harder to see if I'm town or scum.
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This is a weird thing to say to someone you've never played with before. Why do you think mal is scum? I see some accusations in your ISO that haven't really gone anywhere.
I probably won't even open the spec QT until mid-August, but at least it'll be a fun read by then.
As scum in a recent game, he softballed questions to town but grilled (read: paid noticable attention to) his buddies. He chainsaw defended his teammates. His posts were crafted awkwardly, trying to sound town.
Did anyone think he was scum earlier, or only now that he's doubled down on Mindreaver?
2. Why?
is all I can really say to that right now.
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@Killjoy
mal already answered, but he absolutely tunneled the ***** out of dC in the game he linked (CatHunt). Uh. My overall experience with mal isn't so much that he tunnels, but he tries to have his vote on the most useful wagon he can, while keeping up interactions with as many people as possible and prodding the lurkers/abstainers every now and again to do things and establish connections between people for later analysis. I wouldn't have said he tunnels, really. But this is me going off of memory and not paging through our past games together.
@CitricBase
My mal read that you asked about a long time ago is: probably my most confident townread. I'm working against the background of WH14, where he was bit of an awkward mess. So far he seems incredibly natural and has probably put in the most effort to solve the game thus far. He's making five-posts-in-a-row, which suggests a certain confidence, like "hi hello yes I am not scum therefore I am never in any danger of slipping, these are my thoughts and you will take all of them into consideration, tia."
@mal
I had a paranoia!scumread on Citrus earlier because I know he was excited to get into another mafia game but was lurking a bit at the beginning of this one. I also had a conflicting "he forgot the game started and I think that's more likely to come from town" read, the same one I gave to LTH (??) I think, in whatever recent WH it was where he got replaced by Proph. I think I'm okay with him now, I did just list him in my towncircle, but I need to go back and check out his posts again to be sure I wasn't just happy seeing him have more posts.
Before looking back,
Vaimes
mallorean_thug
Rhand
tomsloger
CitricBase
Gentleman Johnny
Matowar77
Mindreaver
Killjoy
Bottom four aren't really in order. I can't remember any of GJ's posts after his No Lynch thing; Killjoy I have to see what he's been doing since I stopped interacting with him; Mindreaver I thought started out okay but obviously warrants another look. A lot of his posts seem to be solely defending himself against Rhand. And Mato, I dunno. He's new-ish, I suck at reading new people. I'll sort them eventually. Coming around to scum!Mindreaver based on mal's points, and I know Rhand's gonna "lolbussing" at me but I'll let him have the tiny victory it's no doubt going to inspire in him (which I will then heartlessly crush at some point either via NK or the game ending, because I have a town role PM).
Me, mal, Rhand, Citrus, tom? is my towncircle right now, I think.
I'll catch up late tonight or something. Had a day out with friends.
Also I feel better about Citrus.
Other responses Eventually, have chores to do.
tom, why the assumptions about what scum!Mindreaver would do?
@Mindreaver
I'd love for the answer to that to be yes, but we'll see. Why ask me that?
Gutread on Citrus, go.
Can you cite a scumgame of Mindreaver's where he appeased or played dumb?
@Mindreaver
Could you give your reads on tom, mal, and Killjoy? I know you said you're null on me, but I am the top poster and I think I've been pretty straightforward and open in my thought process; I'd like you to try a little harder to see if I'm town or scum.