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  • posted a message on [ELD] Forbes article introducing Oko, the Fey Shapeshifter (no card spoiler)
    God I hope he's sultai and has a draw ability.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Volrath, the Shapestealer (Let's Brew!)
    Bloom Tender + Knacksaw Clique wins the game with Volrath after two if your combats.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    Quote from Arwen_Spence »
    Seriously, there are times I don't know what would happen if Magic players were given nothing to whine about. Magic is releasing ludicrous amount of products in a year. Don't like these? Wait a few months and see what the Brawl decks look like and if there's anything you want out of those. At this point, when there's a product I don't really want I'm almost grateful because it means it's one less thing I have to worry about where my Magic budget is concerned.


    The level of entitlement from some folks is outrageous.


    No where in my OP was there a complaint. I stated facts, asked questions, and asked opinions. Critical analysis and thought provoking discussion is essential to a quality product and also applies to many positive factors outside of MTG in life.

    Yes, it is likely I'll be personally skipping this year of the Commander decks. But there is still always room to discuss how things can be better. There's nothing "entitled" about asking questions and bringing a productive conversation to light. You're literally the one complaining right now.

    I don't know if your post is targeted at OP. If it isn't, it would probably be a good idea to use the "Quote" feature to avoid any confusion.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    I don't think most of the expensive cards that were reprinted in older Commander sets were very expensive when the sets came out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but generally I don't think it's been common for anything more than $8 (at the time) to be reprinted in these sets. 'Cause then they have to take that out of the rest of the deck. Am I wrong?

    Obviously certain cards have shot up, but you can't account for the future.


    No, not most, but there always were some $10+ cards before reprint within the decks pre 2018 such as Wurmcoil Engine, Cyclonic Rift, and Mirari's Wake to name a few. And regardless, there were typically a handful of $5+ cards per deck. I count two in the entire "Faceless Menace" deck.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    Quote from SonofaBith75 »
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0DUGg9PDnIY&t=835s

    In which Gavin Verhey claims to have heard players dissatisfaction with the reprints of Commander 2018, and then proceeds to show that (at least after the first deck) no, no he didn’t.

    “Hey kids, you want better reprints? Enjoy your $7 Seedborn and don’t say I never did anything for ya!”


    I'm glad somebody else brought it up because this was exactly what I thought about looking at today's decklist haha.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on [C19] Thieving Amalgam- Wizards Twitter preview
    By far my favorite new card so far. Really powerful and awesome design.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    Quote from JuiceBOX »
    For anyone absolutely entrenched in the format, these products will always be disappointing... that is just how it is. These decks have never been what I hoped they would be for a $40 price tag, but they are nice to see anyways. Players deep into the format are likely just going to pick up singles anyways, this product isn't geared towards them - it is geared towards people who likely don't have a commander deck or who don't spend a whole lot of money on a secondary market.


    I agree with most of what you're saying. Until last year, I always happily picked up a full set of the decks and was very satisfied. I truly do miss playing the decks for a little while before striping them apart for singles to use elsewhere, and it was always just worth it 2017 and prior. I do agree that WotC seems to be targeting players who don't buy singles, but it just seems like that's not even a decent option for those people whereas it used to be a great one. This is, of course, somewhat bold to state about the entire product this year since we've only seen one deck. However, this is an entire deck revealed now, and therefore does set some precedent of what we can expect in the coming week of spoilers.

    Quote from cyberium_neo »

    Calling precons a bust base on the price of reprints is rather skewed, don't you think?

    The primary function of commander precons are there to be a gateway for players new to this format, $40 for a cohesive deck with potential for expansion isn't that high. If they include more pricy reprints then individual LGS might also sell them for higher cost, make it truly unapprochable by new players. As it is, I think the deck is fine for amateurs, it has a theme, good mana base and removal, versatile legends, and easy to learn.

    Precons are tasked for supporting older deck ideas and/or inventing new one, to stimulate deckbuilding. Morph is an old concept requiring new blood, which this deck provided quite a few. It's a good deck and looks fun to play, I will definitely pick it up and playtest it.


    This is the exact scenario so far as to why last year's decks did so poorly. As in, they were a "bust." $40 is pretty expensive for a brand new player to want to invest in something they have no idea whether or not they'll enjoy when it comes to paper magic, where you're limited to when and where you can play much more so then say a video game.

    The only way scalping has ever become an issue in the past with Commander products, was when WotC incompetently printed a vastly insufficient amount of the product in 2016.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    Quote from Wizmin »


    What badly needed reprint would a morph deck have?


    There are a crazy amount of expensive cards to reprint within the Sultai colors. They don't all need to be morph matters. Most of the good reprints in past Commander precons had little to do with the decks outside of being great cards for any deck within their colors. One particularly good card for morph decks though, would be Cloudstone Curio since it's a permanent that allows you to recur your morph abilities consistently throughout the game. There are completely wasted deck slots such as Urban Evolution and Biomass Mutation that literally do nothing for a morph deck and slots like these could've been much better used.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on [C19] - Faceless Menace Full Deck Reveal!
    Bulk reprints up the butt. Feels bad man.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on C19 Another Bust?
    So we've got one full deck list out now, and there isn't a single badly needed reprint in the whole list. Sure, Command Zone states the overall reprint value is high, but that's any deck when you're adding up a bunch of bulk cards. The best reprint we get is Seedborn Muse, which you can get easily for less than $10 already. It's looking a little better than last year I suppose.

    I'm curious what other people are thinking and feeling about this. The reprints so far are almost entirely not sought after bulk cards. And this is also considering the still absurd $40 price tag, which already causes tons of new players that don't have a ton to spend to shy away from a precon.

    With no badly needed reprints for experienced players, and the high $40 price tag that keeps a lot of newer players away, who is this product even for?
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on C19 - Commanders
    Ghired is definitely a worse card as the general for tokens than trostani, selesnya's voice since it has to attack and doesn't have the option to sit back. Pretty disappointing the morph deck isn't temur. The madness and flashback ones are pretty cool though
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [RUMOR] The Commander 19 decks will be based on keywords
    Hopefully the populate decks have at least 2 of the token doubling enchantments in them since they're all way over priced
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Brawl 2019 - Chulane, Teller of Tales
    Welp, looks like I have to cut something in every one of my commander decks for that signet now...which isn't necessarily a bad problem to have.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Raging River
    I'm curious what people think of Raging River in limited. Having more influence over combat as the attacker every combat seems pretty decent to me. The casting cost is also pretty low at 2 CMC. My experience with cube is fairly limited, however.

    Do you think this card would do enough for a hyper aggressive deck to warrant a slot in any cubes? Or is does it simply not do enough to be any good?
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Sheldon's Thoughts on infinite combos
    I honestly love combos, along with any alternate win conditions. They're one of the reasons MTG is the best strategy game and is such a diverse game. When we don't wanna play against decks that win turns 1-5, my playgroup just plays budget <$10 a card decks (with the exceptions of legendary creatures and planeswalkers in those decks). In those games, every strategy is viable and nobody gets locked out of the game unless they did it to themselves by building a really terrible deck. Even then, we don't mind combos because they're easy to stop in that setting and take a lot to get through 3+ other players.

    The way I see it, it's just not really worth buying and playing with an expensive card if you're not looking to win as fast as possible with it (with the exception of legendary creatures and walkers). I also think if you're trying to win as fast as possible then it's a bit immature to expect differently of anybody else at the table. And if your deck can't deal with combos or stax pieces even in a budget game, then that's really more on your deck building and threat assessment skills than anything else.

    EDIT: It's worth noting for context that the budget I'm referring to is based on TCGPlayer median prices, and not based on how much someone might actually spend to obtain the card.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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