@Killjoy
But I DID respond to everything you asked eventually except for one of those questions. What would I have benefited from, as mafia, to have waited a bit before answering them? Like, nothing. I wouldn't.
Your question about how you were acting scummy: I don't know why I said that. I don't remember. I disagree with that now, though. In IJI Mafia 2, where you were scum, you were very people-pleasing, as I recall. You are not doing that now, so I think you're probably town. Snurfy is active lurking. That's how he's "blending in" and he appeared to be voting without reason of his own, and he appeared to not be scum hunting.
@Seppel, I'm talking about how you ignored everything I said to you after you voted me.
One point being wrong) you said I wasn't voting Zionite when I was
One point being something YOURE doing now) you haven't responded to anything I said to you after that post where you made a case against me. Also, the thing you said I ignored from you was sometbjngI didn't think I was supposed to respond to because it wasn't even a question or anything. What you're ignoring from me are posts that are obviously begging a response.
@Huntzilla, understood. The difference is this:
Situation A) a person ignores certain questions stealthily and/or for a hidden reason. This could be scummy. This is like when I pointed out that Chris ignored my many Cythare comments + told Cythare he was looking for a reaction (giving Cythare the opportunity to hone his response) + barns Cythare's replacement. This makes him look scummy because it builds a connection between him and the Cythare role.
Situation B) there is literally no reason for me to "ignore" the questions. Not responding to things in of itself is not scummy unless it is accompanied by complementing actions.
@Killjoy - another thing is that I'm posting on mobile, so I type things and the browser crashes or I just forget. You pointed out that I'm acting different in this game than others. Of course I am. The first game we were in together was my first game, ever. The second one was my second game, ever. In both of those games, I was called "useless". I'm trying to be less useless. I'm trying to actively investigate. If things don't take a promising lead, I start dismissing them. I will make an effort to stop doing that. I'm going to reread that post and answer things I haven't answered yet.
What have I not followed up on?
Seppel's example is ***** because I honestly didn't think I was supposed to reply to that. The only thing I would have said was/is, "Oh. Okay."
@Seppel
so like what if you didn't contrive a case against me where one of the points is wrong and the other point - "ignoring" you - wasn't something you were doing right now.
My opinion has gone from "scum" to "I don't know" citation is either this page lr last page... Wherever I answered Zionite's question about if I thought he was town now or something like that.
What do you think of my response to you about why "they're ignoring me" is invalid unless there's a scummy reason for that person to ignore you i.e. Not answering somebody isn't scummy in of itself?
Like... I'm not calling you scum for having not responded to it yet
And I wasn't ignoring you. I didn't think you were expecting a response to that particular statement.
Defending yourself =/= flailing
If you want to see flailing, look at how I reacted every time somebody voted for me in Iji Mafia 2 (I was town there, too, but it was my first game, so, I was scared of people disliking me..-. Now idgaf. I'm just letting you know... lynching me is a waste of time.)
What does that even mean? It sounds like she's suggesting that Zionite is going to flip scum... but she's not voting Zionite and in the post I quoted above, she thinks the case is trash!
Godot *was* voting Zionite at that point. Pretty aggressively so, in fact.
^THIS^
Seppel, that pretty much destroys your entire case.
Also, I don't see how I was supposed to reply to that? Like. You made a statement that I couldnhave either replied to or not. It didn't really... Like it was indifferent.
@Killjoy what did I ignore?
Okay, and so, here's the thing about using "they're ignoring me" as a part of your case against somebody for them being scum. There has to be a good reason that person is ignoring you for it to be scummy ... Like an ulterior motive than just forgetting or, in my case, having legitimate and not kids-lying-to-authorities ADHD. I will forget things. I'm also human. I will forget things. You saying I didn't respond to something sithout having like a reason lined up for why not responding to that would benefit me as mafia... It's incredible. My point about Chris ignoring my Cythare inquiries was only a little bit valid because he Barnes Cythare's replacement, told Cythare he was voting him to get a reaction before the reaction occurred, and responded to a very convenient inquiry of mine about Cythare only.
@Chris
Wow okay excuse me for literally answering the question you asked about what you "should" have done. Yeah sure. You can explain anything you do. That doesn't mean it's innocent.
@Zionite
Really though, why is Rodemy considered to be on any of your lists?
@Chris
You should have spoken up about it, but mentioned as you did this that you can't trust the answer because we can't actually know.
You should have not said something as frivolous as "Let's see what color blood (Cythare) has" over the potential death of a townsperson. Which is significant. You should have not told Cythare you were looking for a reaction before he reacted i.e. giving him the opportunity to hone his response. And then you should have not barned Cythare's replacement immediately. It's fishy as ****, bro.
So
You probably should recind it.
But I DID respond to everything you asked eventually except for one of those questions. What would I have benefited from, as mafia, to have waited a bit before answering them? Like, nothing. I wouldn't.
Your question about how you were acting scummy: I don't know why I said that. I don't remember. I disagree with that now, though. In IJI Mafia 2, where you were scum, you were very people-pleasing, as I recall. You are not doing that now, so I think you're probably town. Snurfy is active lurking. That's how he's "blending in" and he appeared to be voting without reason of his own, and he appeared to not be scum hunting.
One point being wrong) you said I wasn't voting Zionite when I was
One point being something YOURE doing now) you haven't responded to anything I said to you after that post where you made a case against me. Also, the thing you said I ignored from you was sometbjngI didn't think I was supposed to respond to because it wasn't even a question or anything. What you're ignoring from me are posts that are obviously begging a response.
@Huntzilla, understood. The difference is this:
Situation A) a person ignores certain questions stealthily and/or for a hidden reason. This could be scummy. This is like when I pointed out that Chris ignored my many Cythare comments + told Cythare he was looking for a reaction (giving Cythare the opportunity to hone his response) + barns Cythare's replacement. This makes him look scummy because it builds a connection between him and the Cythare role.
Situation B) there is literally no reason for me to "ignore" the questions. Not responding to things in of itself is not scummy unless it is accompanied by complementing actions.
@Killjoy - another thing is that I'm posting on mobile, so I type things and the browser crashes or I just forget. You pointed out that I'm acting different in this game than others. Of course I am. The first game we were in together was my first game, ever. The second one was my second game, ever. In both of those games, I was called "useless". I'm trying to be less useless. I'm trying to actively investigate. If things don't take a promising lead, I start dismissing them. I will make an effort to stop doing that. I'm going to reread that post and answer things I haven't answered yet.
What have I not followed up on?
Seppel's example is ***** because I honestly didn't think I was supposed to reply to that. The only thing I would have said was/is, "Oh. Okay."
@Mod I think some people are due for prods.
so like what if you didn't contrive a case against me where one of the points is wrong and the other point - "ignoring" you - wasn't something you were doing right now.
What do you think of my response to you about why "they're ignoring me" is invalid unless there's a scummy reason for that person to ignore you i.e. Not answering somebody isn't scummy in of itself?
Like... I'm not calling you scum for having not responded to it yet
And I wasn't ignoring you. I didn't think you were expecting a response to that particular statement.
If you want to see flailing, look at how I reacted every time somebody voted for me in Iji Mafia 2 (I was town there, too, but it was my first game, so, I was scared of people disliking me..-. Now idgaf. I'm just letting you know... lynching me is a waste of time.)
^THIS^
Seppel, that pretty much destroys your entire case.
Also, I don't see how I was supposed to reply to that? Like. You made a statement that I couldnhave either replied to or not. It didn't really... Like it was indifferent.
@Killjoy what did I ignore?
Okay, and so, here's the thing about using "they're ignoring me" as a part of your case against somebody for them being scum. There has to be a good reason that person is ignoring you for it to be scummy ... Like an ulterior motive than just forgetting or, in my case, having legitimate and not kids-lying-to-authorities ADHD. I will forget things. I'm also human. I will forget things. You saying I didn't respond to something sithout having like a reason lined up for why not responding to that would benefit me as mafia... It's incredible. My point about Chris ignoring my Cythare inquiries was only a little bit valid because he Barnes Cythare's replacement, told Cythare he was voting him to get a reaction before the reaction occurred, and responded to a very convenient inquiry of mine about Cythare only.
Wow okay excuse me for literally answering the question you asked about what you "should" have done. Yeah sure. You can explain anything you do. That doesn't mean it's innocent.
@Zionite
Really though, why is Rodemy considered to be on any of your lists?
but remember when Rodemy made like
two posts maybe
and then replaced out
Why is he even considered on any of your lists?
You should have spoken up about it, but mentioned as you did this that you can't trust the answer because we can't actually know.
You should have not said something as frivolous as "Let's see what color blood (Cythare) has" over the potential death of a townsperson. Which is significant. You should have not told Cythare you were looking for a reaction before he reacted i.e. giving him the opportunity to hone his response. And then you should have not barned Cythare's replacement immediately. It's fishy as ****, bro.
@Zionite
I can't say one way or the other.