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drmarkb posted a message on [RIX] Rivals of Ixalan: Modern discussionPossibly one of the least Modern/Legacy relevant sets for a while.Posted in: Modern -
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Lectrys posted a message on {XLN} Ixalan spoiler discussion for ModernPosted in: ModernQuote from genini2 »Against combo or aggro Search for Azcanta will probably be too slow. Repeatable advantage against a control deck, or a deck like Jund sounds great.
I did find that Search for Azcanta did have several similarities with Ancestral Vision when I tested it. Both are blue and cheap, but need at least one turn before they start producing CA. Search for Azcanta is vulnerable to permanent destruction (both enchantment and land), but it can sneak around more counter walls because you can resolve it while your opponent is tapped out (while AV is completely telegraphed because it cannot be normally cast), and crucially, it can produce CA the turn after it is played (unlike AV, which only produces CA 4 turns after it is Suspended). Search for Azcanta requires more mana period, though, and it can't hand you lands or creatures for CA. However, once it flips, it digs 4 deep (per shot!) instead of 3 (like AV), and I've found that 2 activations are generally all you need to gain an edge in a match-up if you're playing a midrange/control deck. (You may need only one activation if you're playing a combo deck, but I only recommend this in slower combo decks such as Scapeshift.) -
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BlueTronFTW posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices DiscussionPosted in: ModernQuote from SpinifexV »Quote from Ember_Twilight »Quote from Davidalb »Is now the best time to buy tarmogoyf or are they likely to go down in price even more?
If you can get them for less that $60, I'd do it. It's very unlikely they show up in the next two premium products, and even if they did it won't crash the price much from here. Goyf may be at its bottom right now. I wouldn't speculate on them, though. Just buy what you need. Fatal Push is still a card and until players figure out a way to neutralize it, Goyf won't be good again.
Goyf is still one of the best options at 2CMC. Fatal Push might have hurt its position in the metagame, but it's still a 4x in many mid-range or CoCo decks. The change in the Planeswalker rule might give a second wind to BGx decks, since they will be able to run both 3cmc Lilis at the same time.
That said, I agree with your conclusion: buy if you need them, don't speculate on them. The fan base of Magic is on a downward slope, due mostly to the many problems of standard and the changes in rotation alienating many young players. There is no guarantee Modern Staples will go up in price, since they we are also seeing more reprints.
Having survived like five "this is the end of magic" periods, I gotta say that's a little hyperbolic. Standard issues have largely passed, and the current format is being extolled by basically everyone. Modern is basically immune to those issues, as well. -
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idSurge posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices DiscussionPauper, Budget Modern, and Frontier are ALL because of some sick need to avoid paying Modern prices?Posted in: Modern
Come on man.
Pauper doesnt even use the Modern card pool. Its a different thing all together, and before Serum Visions was reprinted it was a $10 common so 'pauper' is...misleading.
Frontier is a marketing/corporate scheme to shift cards and isnt even a real format.
Budget Modern...isnt a thing.
People love playing LIMITED, the worst possible RNG format in existence. That has NOTHING to do with Modern. I'm more then willing to agree to disagree on things, but they need to at least make sense.
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ktkenshinx posted a message on Temporary State of the Meta Thread (Rules Update 7/17/17)Posted in: Modern ArchivesQuote from NZB2323 »Yeah, I mean every deck has its weaknesses, but a lot of times BW tokens can come back from a ratchet bomb or EE with a lingering souls from the GY, a bitterblossom, or a Sorin.
I'm not saying BW tokens is the best deck in the format, I'm just surprised it's not even tier 2.
As someone who has been jamming fair decks for a few months, I think BW Tokens is a) better than its tiering and b) incapable of doing really busted things. UW Control's and BW Tokens' most unfair and broken plays are still pretty fair. I think this is because these decks don't cheat on mana so their power/explosiveness ceiling is pretty low. This translates to few, if any, free wins, and even your average win can be relatively hard-fought. You also need lots of reps to pick up those matchups and margins. All of this pushes BW Tokens down the charts, but I'm sure you could be pretty successful with it if you committed. -
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Molz7 posted a message on UBx Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas ControlPosted in: Control
Just curious. Why play the time sieve?
I was pretty skeptical of time sieve at first but I've won many games just because it's in my deck. It's a plan versus the decks that don't just lose to thopter foundry/ bridge in play. Tron /scape shift etc become winnable with seive. I board it out still versus fair grindy matchups like death shadow and Jund. -
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acc95 posted a message on State of Modern Thread: bans, format health, metagame, and more! (3/13 update)Posted in: Modern Archives
It would just improve Abzan's Burn matchup while also helping a whole bunch of color combinations like Mardu. Jeskai, Esper and Bant. Sounds fair to me. Some people are too afraid of Turn 3 Batterskull. In Modern...Quote from Breathe1234 »Its going to kill all the fair decks and make the meta game unfair decks vs stoneforge mystic deck vs K-command decks.
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Lantern posted a message on HOU (and the other less official ones lately. ) spoilers discussion for ModernOK, were totally done with the English word lessons. Any more spam on how it should have been worded will be infractedPosted in: Modern -
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Raalic posted a message on HOU (and the other less official ones lately. ) spoilers discussion for ModernPosted in: ModernQuote from bizzycola »Quote from Raalic »Regarding Rhonas's Last Stand, Goyf dies to Fatal Push, too, and it can't be recurred with Snapcaster Mage. It's likely to be bigger than Goyf for a turn or two, as well. Its biggest drawback is that it's GG.
I would think that double green and not getting to untap 4 lands off of a snapcaster would be the draw back. It just seems to leave you very open to getting blown out hard on the following turns, you snap this back and your opponent follows up with double push or push snap push and you are left with nothing and you don't get to untap 4 of your lands seems like a highly probable line of play in the current format
Forgive me, I just play so many mana dorks in my decks that I tend to assume it's obvious you're going to need them to support this card. It's only good in a small handful of decks, and they'll have a tough time finding room, but it could shine there. -
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FourDogsInAHorseSuit posted a message on HOU (and the other less official ones lately. ) spoilers discussion for ModernWhat is Lotus Cobra up to these days?Posted in: Modern - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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As much as I love mystic, this is just plain false. UW control is tier 1 according to this list, death and taxes is tier 2 and won a HUGE tournament.
(http://tappedout.net/mtg-articles/2017/jul/17/modern-tiered-list-now-bi-weekly-update-71717/)
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This shouldn't surprise anyone. Legacy is in a reasonable state because they don't try to balance the color balance. Modern is similar but replace blue with black.
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She also good in WR prison and some titanshift builds. I've seen pros stream 4 color control decks with nahiri in it. (esper deck that flashes for nahiri)
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In RUG decks the fear is that BBE could hit an ancestral vision which would make it too good. However we only have serum vision as a form of good deck manipulation in modern so similar to the jund example, it's probably hitting removal/a creature most of the time. Why is this card banned when we have 7/7s for 1 mana, storm killing you quickly, dredge swarming the field with its creatures, affinity dumping it's hand, etc? And please don't tell me that this card sees play in shadow decks. There is no reason to play BloodBraid elf over Ranger of Eos since Ranger always getting you two death's shadows while Bloodbraid elf could hit a mishra's bauble with its cascade ability.
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Cards that WILL see play in modern in my opinion:
-Liliana's Defeat: A great sideboard card that deals with many threats in from the best deck in the format for the low price of B. Deals with Liliana of the veil, Liliana, the last hope, Tasigur, the golden fang, Death's shadow, Gurmag angler, Grim Flayer, Prized Amalgam, Street Wraith and Horror of the Broken Lands to name a few tier 1 black creatures. I expect this to be heavily played.
-Nimble Obstructionist: A nearly uncounterable stifle that cantrips and deals with many tier 1 threats in the format? Or if you don't want effect you get a 3/1 flying body with flash. This card will be played but I expect it to be the blue version of Aven Mindcensor/shadow of doubt where it will see play as a 1-2 at the most.
-Ramunap Excavator: This already has a home in a GW Company deck designed like Todd Steven's list (http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/gw_company_with_todd_stevens.html). This card plus Azusa, Lost but Seeking and Ghost Quarter/Tectonic Edge seems like a good start. A Crucible of Worlds stapled onto a body will find a home somewhere if not there.
Cards that have a chance to see play:
-Rhonas's Last Stand: I have talked about this card a bit and I feel like it has the potential to find a deck home because it has a very attractive body for it's payoff. Mana dorks such as Birds of Paradise/Noble Hierarch make the downside easier and Lotus Cobra gets this in play with a fetchland crack. Being able to flash this back via snapcaster mage is cute but I feel like this is a card that a Mono G list would want. Fatal push hurts this cards viability sadly.
-Supreme Will: I feel like people are underrating this card because it has an overcosted mana leak stapled on to it. Similar to censor, this card is never dead since it also has impulse stapled onto it. The stapled impulse seems very good on this card since people have been willing to play forbidden alchemy in their decks in the past and that also cost 3 mana which also digs 4 cards.
-Claim // Fame: One of the most attractive of the cards that has been revealed thus far due to the claim part on the card. Claim allows us to reanimate very powerful cards that are already played in tier 1-2 decks including: Death's shadow, Tarmogoyf, Snapcaster mage, dark confidant, Grim flayer. However I am interested in this card because it has great synergy with Jace, Vryn's prodigy since paying three mana allows us to reanimate jace and give him haste so he can become a planeswalker instantly which is very nice. However, the issue is that this card can be dead a lot of the time since there isn't always a creature to reanimate. I'll definitely be brewing with it for some fun jank at the very least.
-Driven // Despair: A combat trick that seems decent in elves or Dredge since both can each side of the card. It's testable at the very least as a 1-2 of.
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The reason why I state that 600 is not expensive for a tier 1 modern deck is that its just reality. If you want to compete at the highest level of play you have to have the cash to drop on this game. Ultimately magic is an expensive hobby and if you can't compete then there is nothing wrong with buying into a budget list. At the same time it's fruitless to ask people what is going to be printed in the next set because no one here will know.
Anyways right now the best tier 1 decks to spec on are: Elves (cheap creature base and I expect CoCo to go up), burn: (A lot of the deck got cheaper based on reprints from masters sets) and affinity (The cheapest tier 1 deck that's consistent).
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You are better off running time warp. Back in 2012-13 there used to be faerie list that would play very similarly to the Mono U turns decks. They played 4 remand, 3-4 mistbind, 3-4 time warps.
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Threats
2-3 Vendilion clique
2-3 Mistbind Clique
4 Bitterblossom
Counterspells
2-4 Cryptic Command
3-4 Spellstutter Sprite
Discard
3-4 Inquisition of Kozilek
0-2 Thoughtseize
Removal
4 fatal push
1-2 Go for the throat
Lands
2-4 Secluded Glen
4 Polluted Delta
1-2 Watery grave
3-4 Island
1 Swamp
3-4 Darkslick Shores
4 Mutavault
3-4 Creeping tar pit
Flex Threats
0-4 Smuggler's Copter
0-3 Pack Rat
0-1 batterskull
0-1 sword of feast and famine
Flex Swiss Army knives
0-3 Liliana of the Veil
0-3 Snapcaster Mage
0-2 Gifted Aetherborn
Flex Discard
0-2 Collective Brutality
Flex Card draw
0-4 Serum visions
0-4 Ancestral Vision
Flex Counterspells
0-1 Logic Knot
0-2 Mana leak
0-2 Countersquall
0-2 Negate
0-2 Remand
0-2 Spell snare
Flex Removal
0-1 dismember
0-1 Hero's downfall
0-1 Murderous cut
0-1 Victim of Night
Flex lands
0-4 River of Tears
0-1 Pendelhaven
0-2 Ghost Quarter
0-1 Sunken Ruins
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Looting effects like Jace, Vryn's Prodigy/izzet charm and/or using Liliana of the Veil to get rid of it late game do have me interested in brewing it in grixis. As foretold also lets Jace, Telepath Unbound target Ancestral Vision which is interesting.
A Jeskai version could also use izzet charm/Nahiri, the Harbinger as its ways to get rid of extra As foretolds
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