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  • posted a message on Grishoalbrand / Griselbrand Reanimator
    Looks like you have the win locked up there, but I would move to attack, swing in with Griselbrand to get a "free" draw 7 and go from there. If you get another shoal, goryo's, or ritual, then you can get Borborygmos into play to finish it off. Drawing those extra 7 cards increases your overall odds since 14 cards sometimes isn't enough to find the pieces.

    My plan A would be to attack, draw 7, then in the next main phase splice the ritual onto shoal (up to 3 red), cast ritual (4 red), splice breach onto another shoal if drawn.

    Plan B would be similar to plan A, but should you have whiffed on a shoal or additional SSG / Rituals, then you could cast ritual (3 Red), cast manamorphose (convert at least 1 red to black), faithless looting discard Borborygmos, cast goryo's (if drawn) targeting Borborygmos. This way is vulnerable to surgical extraction (if you think they have that), but you mentioned you have sided in pacts and may draw that in those 21 cards.
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  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    I'm guessing it is futile to point out that your anecdotal "evidence" of Tron ruining the LGS scene vs "Big Data" includes WotC having WPN reports of event attendance at LGS across the world? There is a lot to pick apart in that diatribe, but if there was a deck that was truly hurting attendance (ie Eldrazi Winter), Wizards would take action. Tron is playing Magic. Aggro, Combo, Midrange, Control, Ramp... all play magic. Not every strategy interacts with another strategy favorably, but that is a feature, not a bug. I've never cared much for tron, but I can recognize that it is fine in the format.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    Quote from genini2 »
    Storm, Ad Nauseaum, Burn, Aggro decks in general. They are all consistent, fast, and atm aren't banned. The idea that a well known deck is secretly this huge monster and overpowered, but that people with thousands of dollars on the line just refuse to play it for some reason is absurd.
    Tron playing Collective Brutality and Fatal Push deal with just about everything listed there.


    None of the 4 Tron decks in the Top 8 played those cards...
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    Quote from h0lydiva »
    Tron has been kept in check by people not playing it near the amount they should have.


    Or it isn't as good as people like to claim? Look I don't like Tron, but if it were as OP as this forum likes to claim, the results would be there. 6 Tron Decks in the top 32 indicates it was a good meta call (except none made it to the finals), but it is far from oppressive and lost to decks that are supposed "70/30" matches.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    Quote from xBattleSpawnx »
    Quote from gkourou »
    4 tron, 1 rg eldrazi, 2 abzan, 1 jeskai control into the top 8.
    Bad, big mana top 8.


    Does it really matter? The format that exists in this tournament is going to be completely different tomorrow. I have a hard time believing that BBE and JTMS are NOT going to shake up the format. This GP is borderline useless IMO. I think WotC missed out not adjusting the unban date...

    The kinds of decks that get better as a result of Jace and BBE get stomped by Tron. More of those decks inevitably means more Tron.

    But at the end of the day, Ancient Stirrings is still the most powerful cantrip in Modern.


    Except that hasn't really bore out in practice. As KTK among others have pointed out, Tron has been kept in check largely by the linear decks this forum loves to complain about. JTMS unbanned and Tron is a thing? Sounds like a great time to be on aggro (as an example). The meta is very cyclical with the "dreaded" Tron rarely being on the top. *also yet another B/G deck beats tron... this time not named Reid Duke*

    Quote from Lord Seth »
    The wait for the unban is worse for the viewers, but better for the players. Having to scramble to get a new deck together due to the bannings in less than a week is majorly frustrating. That said, it seems to me that all of these problems could have been solved by announcing the unbans one week later (i.e. tomorrow) so they would be announced after the Grand Prix.

    It would also provide the benefit of a lower period of time between Jace's price spike and the reprinting.


    I do get that. It would have been potentially rough for the people who have spent a good amount of time testing and preparing for the GP. I just dislike that this meta snapshot becomes obsolete so quickly.

    Also all 4 Mono G Tron just lost in the Top 8 lol.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    Quote from gkourou »
    4 tron, 1 rg eldrazi, 2 abzan, 1 jeskai control into the top 8.
    Bad, big mana top 8.


    Does it really matter? The format that exists in this tournament is going to be completely different tomorrow. I have a hard time believing that BBE and JTMS are NOT going to shake up the format. This GP is borderline useless IMO. I think WotC missed out not adjusting the unban date...
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Grishoalbrand / Griselbrand Reanimator
    I honestly don't think a deck like shoal cares? I'd say other versions of goryo's / griselbrand decks have to probably figure out something, but If my opponent taps out on T4 I'm feeling pretty good about my chances.
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  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    Yet the most fair/ interactive deck was #1 going into the top 8? It fell to Bogles in game 3 of the semifinals, but I'd say it did just fine overall (13-1-1 record).
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    Rolleyes sure, lets group burn w/ bogles, elves, and grishoalbrand. These decks attack in unique (and different) ways. Just because you don't like that play style, doesn't mean it isn't a diverse T8.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    I'd hope for BBE, but not so sure about SFM based on the decks that it may slot into being "top tier."

    That is of course an entirely debatable statement, and truthfully it wouldn't bother me one way or another, but with UWR / UW doing pretty well overall, I could see WotC being cautious about adding SFM into the mix.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Grand Prix Toronto discussion
    I'm both happy and surprised by the result. Affinity is usually a pretty rough match up (looking back at my match-up spreadsheet, it was one of my worst matches) but it looked like Affinity kept a pretty slow hand both games.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    sometimes you roll the dice and come out on top Wink
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    One of our own @Finalnub in the Top8 on Grishoalbrand!
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Grishoalbrand / Griselbrand Reanimator
    Quote from finalnub »


    I have a good feeling about GP Toronto..


    Well done. Max punished. Take that U deck Laughing
    Posted in: Combo
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    It is more from players not conceding despite being unable to win through the lock, forcing the lantern player to mill every card. While it is technically legal to do so, it does add time to the process and a bit unnecessary and is spiteful. An example would be game 1, not having a way to win through bridge, but making the lantern player go through the process anyway.

    There are also inexperienced players who may take longer to make decisions on what to mill, but I'd argue that is probably more helpful to the opponent, giving them greater odds of drawing an out.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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