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None of those things are “greed”. The company isn’t laying people off to pad it’s profit margins or cutting cost with polluting manufacturing methods or selling a necessity like food/housing/healthcare at a price that people who need those things to survive cannot afford it.
Selling a luxury item at a price that people are willing to pay for that item (maybe not you, but some people are) isn’t greed, its the reason the company exists. Its no different than selling a draft booster box for 120, except that the number of people willing to pay the price point for the product is significantly smaller.
Abusing your customers is greed.
This is the very definition of greed.
intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
"mercenaries who had allowed greed to overtake their principles"
There are legit people addicted to packs, especially rich people that need a new "high" to open something special and continue to do so, for them its simply gambling, its exactly the same as a addicted gambler that will sell everything and steal from anybody just to get another shot.
WotC is in a abusive relationship with these people, thats why gambling and especially drugs absolutely need regulation and save guards, which dont really exist at all for WotC and their crack (as in gambling in a lot of countries you are limited how much money you can lose per hour, and similar things to protect the people that become victims).
A company is obvisiously going to make money, however, there are bad business practices and abusing customers for profit, which very obviously are not justified at all, by simply saying "Well its a company, it has to make a profit".
WotC is milking its customers for decades, and they increasingly provide less for more money, and push more product on people to milk even more money out of them.
The entire ideology movement is to emotional abuse people into support for a product they would otherwise not support, so WotC is using any angle possible to find some reason to push a product on people and a bunch of these reasons are bad business practices.
Unfair business practices encompass fraud, misrepresentation, and oppressive or unconscionable acts or practices by business, often against consumers, and are prohibited by law in many countries.
Just like video game companies pushing loot boxes and the like, at best WotC is walking the edge of what they are allowed to do in some countries laws, questionable in some other areas and basically just a law suit away from being put to trial.
At this point, this anti-customer behavior has to be questioned and it becomes more and more blatantly obvious to more people.
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its taken like 2 years, but with the release of kamigawa having happened like what... a week ago? i just have no interest in the never ending hype train any more.
as for goad, neat? its an uninteresting mechanic that brings a lot of politics to edh pods but not much else. i'm more concerned that they're going to print more cards with goad with commander exclusively in mind. a lot of what they specifically aim at commander ends up feeling really oppressive lately. its felt so overwhelming, the pressure to get these hot new commander oriented cards all the time, that its become a lot easier to step back and just... not buy anything.
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...so the set will exist is what you're saying?
if its handled like kamigawa then their creative team is knocking it out of the park
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it makes sense though given the more traditionalist values
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yes! this! i've been thinking this ever since it was spoiled. super high tech magical dj, but hey lets slap a chord of rope on them as a belt because we're a fantasy game with scifi elements and we need to remind people of that. its dumb as ****. like they can design a ******* mix table but not a belt buckle? its like they knew it didn't fit with whats been established for magic so they had to tack something on.
yeah magic has had mechs (the 9 titans) yeah its got body horror scifi (phyrexia) and sure kaladesh has all sorts of vehicles like trains and airships, but they've still always maintained an air of fantasy. cobbled together parts, fantasy elements, no computers or modern real world tech, that sort of thing, and now we just get a straight up dj with whats clearly computer screens. its dumb and i don't like it, no matter how far out of their way someone goes to justify it, to try and make it make sense. it doesn't matter, to me it will always be as jarring as sitting down across from someone who slaps down glen, or rick, or some other real world type card or cross ip thing. there is a certain atmosphere and style that has been established for the past 30 years, and this art feels way more like league of legends than magic the gathering.
for that, i don't like it and never will.
edit: heck thinking more about it i probably wouldn't have cared at all that it was a dj spinning fat beats or whatever the kids say these days if they had just not made it look like computer screens, and instead of a human made it a goblin, or a moonfolk, or some other species native to kamigawa that isn't a human. that would've been okay, that would've fit with the magic aesthetic... but nope!
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then they revealed that ******* dj (not pictured here), and i am completely turned off from the set.
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totally disagree here. if you're playing in events you're playing the best cards. if those best cards are in a specific set you bet your ass they're for you. its extremely misleading to tout the mantra of not everything is for everyone when that's a grim reality of the game. you aren't going to show up to an event without an optimized deck, you simply can't and also expect to win. thats not counting your edh pods, but legit events. no one goes to a modern event hoping to win with random bull*****, they play the best cards.
products like this one are perfect imo, despite the predatory nature of secret lairs. these are basics. who cares. basics are literally thrown into the garbage sometimes, so you're not going to be hurting for playing a different version of a swamp. you can opt out of this one easily without any harm to your deck in a competitive environment.
this is exactly how all secret lairs should be. an optional product that you don't feel obligated into in order to compete.
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Not because of the predatory nature of secret lairs, not for the card choice, or the relatively bad art, not even over the price. Nor even the theme.
No, i can simply opt out of this. Big deal.
What frustrates me is that with every basic land secret lair the masses *****ed and *****ed about how expensive it is to get 5 of any 1 basic since theyre sold as a kit with all 5.
Now that we have a kit where you get 5 of a single basic, making it easy to get enough for your fart themed edh deck...
...the masses complain its 5 swamps and not all 5 basics
The magic community is ******* nuts.
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No really, this isnt a format for me, i wont be playing or supporting it. They can do whatever they want with it, ill never bother. I can opt out, thats okay.
I dont care about any of the cards as a result, but i do hope it helps reveal and push some concepts for paper
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can we get some citations on that 3,000 lgs figure?
also your lgs can do what most of them do and you know, just buy the product in quantities greater than zero during the window where everyone can buy it. after that point its the same as any other out of print product. no conspiracy here.
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this is how i feel too, so you're not alone.
its become a real turn off for new product for me, and honestly its had a small but noticeable negative impact on my gameplay experience. there's just too much weird ***** going on with frames now so i constantly have to ask 'what is that?' at a table. i never had to in the past and it creates a fairly negative experience to not know half the crap coming down because it has some alt art, alt frame, or completely different name (that isn't actually different) now. its also kind of made it difficult to be anti proxy which has in turn made proxies explode in popularity locally because when a magic card stops looking like a magic card who gives a crap whats real