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  • posted a message on [Primer] G/W Auras (Bogle)
    I see where you're coming from. I'd welcome you to check out the first link in my sig and join the bogles discord server; we have a handful of players testing out seasons and the data from ~50+ matches so far is very exciting. Lots of folks brainstorming around it in the brew channel and differing opinions/feedback is much appreciated in the discussion.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on [Primer] G/W Auras (Bogle)
    Quote from 13055 »
    Do we even want this?


    Yes. Spiritdancer is a glorified lightning rod; any relevant Modern deck can easily deal with her in games 1, 2, and 3. Enchantment hate isn't uncommon out of the SB, but it's far less prevalent than creature removal and sure as ***** doesn't get mainboarded often. Silhana Ledgewalker is a more than adequate replacement creature, but on paper it seems as though keeping 1-2 spiritdancer would be a good call just to make it more difficult for opponents during sideboarding, wondering whether or not you're playing any Kors. I'm actually baffled that anyone wouldn't want to play this. How many creatures/auras do we play in a typical game? This is the card draw engine we've desperately needed.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Season of Growth (Eric Froelich preview)
    The Bogles delegation approves Smileup
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [Primer] G/W Auras (Bogle)


    Bogle-gasm
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from ed06288 »
    I feel terrible saying this but I'm kinda mad they reprinted leyline of sanctity, given that it was previously in a masters set. On the flip side, Leyline of the Void definitly needed a reprint.


    I hear ya. The cycle started with Core Sets (I assume so anyway, I know Sanctity was M11), so I can see why it's fitting to reprint them now in M20, especially when WoTC is trying to legitimize Core Sets as a whole following their hiatus. However, what kinda bugs me is how close these spoilers + set release are occurring on the heels of MH1. I don't know if WotC assumed there wouldn't be much overlap between players interested in either/or set, but Sanctity & Void are reason enough for any modern player to care about the set IMO. Like a few folks mentioned on the previous page, the close proximity of set releases and disproportionate cost:value ratio of MH1 (at the moment anyway) don't give me much optimism about the supply of MH1 singles continuing to enter the market.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Wow, not even done with spoilers and this Core Set is already more interesting to me than MH1. Regarding horizon lands, I've been pulling the trigger on any I find under $10. Not looking to sit on any more than a playset each +/- 1-2 of certain ones for EDH, but IMO they're a steal under $10 and I'd rather over pay by a few bucks now rather than paying $20+ down the lines whenever I need them. I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop with MH1 regarding which cards emerge with sleeper value and despite a few gems like Hodaak, I'm still not seeing there being enough breakout cards to justify box prices while in-print. Therefore, I'm expecting short term set value will primarily depend on the lands, Urza, rare/mythic slivers, force, and the rest of the "money" cards people had identified as "good"/playable prior to release and I'm betting on (most of) the canopy lands adjusting to match the price/trend of Prismatic Vista. Using that same line of reasoning, I can see foil prices for aforementioned cards hitting absurd levels. I could be completely wrong and kicking myself in a month when Nurturing Peatlands are going for $10 a play set, but I think there will be a lot of sellers who look at Horizon Canopy and set an arbitrary floor price, choosing to just sit on them rather than throwing them up for < $8.

    Also, just a hot tip for anyone feeling froggy and/or interested in playing Elemental tribal at some point in time: Pick up your Primal Beyonds before they spike. I started buying foils once Lightning Skelemental was spoiled, b/c I was legitimately interested in brewing some elemental tribal lists and I've been following its price since. IMO, it's primed for an outright buyout; one printing in Morningtide, < 100 copies available on TCGplayer, part of the same cycle as Aunties Hovel which spiked up to $30 w/in last few days, and this Core Set featuring an abnormally high number of elemental cards if not an actual set sub-theme. Currently non-foils are ~$5+ for LP+.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Welp, I disregarded my own better judgement and decided to check in late Sunday to see if my LGS had any boxes following pre-release. They did and I caved. I'll list the notable pulls, but long story short is I find it highly unlikely that stores will be able to continue selling packs/boxes at the going rate once the set is officially released. Considering pre-release was essentially a "soft launch" in that boxes could actually be sold early, allowing a higher than normal supply to enter the market before official release, prices are trending down despite there being actual supply of singles. Granted, all it would take is one or two cards finding their way into a solid T1 deck or $1-$2 rares to find homes to raise the value of a box, but I'd just caution anyone about pulling the trigger on any non-foil until some trends emerge. I rarely crack packs, but I've always enjoyed picking up a box of each Masters set and MH1 feels like a spiritual successor. Anyway, here we go:



    + handful foil tokens, X rares currently <$3, solid stack of sweet slivers, & 5-6 uncommons I'll use in EDH

    Solid box in terms of personal and entertainment value; Urza + sliver were both on my list of singles to eventually pick up for edh and a foil canopy land was pretty killer. If I opened this box without knowing what it cost, I'd say it was a fantastic above average box. And while I normally don't expect to get more value out of a box vs retail cost, this seemed like one which probably came close. I'm just curious to see where the market is at two weeks from now as supply/demand suggests single prices won't magically spike once more supply is available to the masses.

    Tl;Dr: Wasn't thrilled about the set after spoilers, but picked up a box and had a good time. Lucked out finding a foil horizon land + quite a few cards I planned on picking up as singles (albeit mostly for edh). However, the odds of your foil rare being a horizon land are slim and I'm skeptical of the market's ability to sustain single prices enough to keep boxes/boosters propped up at their current price points.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Peak market supply could be 1-2 months from release, if I had to guess. I'm glad I held off on pre-ordering a box for $220. The canopy lands seem like they were meant to push the set in the event that reception of the set was mixed yet prices have been tanking since the end of spoilers. I figured they'd rebound once supply from pre-release entered the market, but that doesn't look likely. I'm actually curious about actual pre-release attendance. I figured I'd head up to my LGS and participate just to try and get some early canopy lands, but then I read it was a $50 buy in.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [Primer] G/W Auras (Bogle)
    Yeah, I realized that pretty quick after starting the server. I'm going to leave up the mtgs server for anyone who wants to use it as a place to gather while the new site gets ironed out. However, the dedicated Bogles server is much easier to maintain so I'm going to spend some time spreading the word to other dying forums, reddit, FB, etc with some kind of bogles-specific discussions/threads. I prefer actual forums to social media/reddit type discussion mediums and definitely don't want to detract from this thread or any future continuation of it. However, I've been on quite a few servers dedicated to various other modern archetypes and I can't deny the wealth of information and accessibility that a dedicated discord offers. Unfortunately, the rise of reddit, discord, and general social media groups have shifted much of the discussion away from traditional forums. I'll certainly continue to frequent mtgs/any future successor; I just want to help the bogles conversation evolve and made accessible to folks who've never posted on a forum, prefer to contribute via mobile, etc.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Due to the unfortunate news, I've started a discord server for anybody interested in keeping this thread going while things are being figured out with the new site. I'm still figuring out how to manage discord, but there's currently a handful of channels including one for modern price discussion. Link to the server is here; @ me in the channel with any suggestions as all feedback is appreciated.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Where to go, after MtGSalvation?
    I've never created a discord server previously, but I started one after hearing the news and not knowing where else to go discuss niche modern/edh decks other than Reddit. I planned for it to be a place where discussion in the Bogles primer could continue, but there are additional threads I've followed which don't have an alternate forum for discussion (that I'm aware of anyway), so I figured I'd make a bunch of different channels for anyone from MTGS/elsewhere to have somewhere to go. At least until everything with the new site is settled. Like I said, I'm by no means a discord pro, so if anyone is interested in porting over discussion from a particular thread and managing a channel by all means just let me know. The whole idea is just to try and preserve some discussions/topics for anyone wanting to stay in the loop, so they'd be able to discuss with folks who may be familiar faces names. Link for those interested.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on End of an Era
    Quote from idSurge »
    Glad to hear it will continue somewhere else.

    The only thing I hope for, is this same format of forum. Not like Reddit, or other sites, but a nice traditional forum.


    Second.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on [Deck] Modern Slivers
    Due to the recents news, I'm curious if there's a Discord channel out there that I could join to follow deck discussion in the future?
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Bummer. Does anybody happen to know of any Discord channels for general Modern discussion?

    EDIT: No experience creating a discord server, but I started something up for anyone interested in continuing discussions in a new medium. Work in progress, but I figured it'd be nice to have a place where anyone from MTGS can go and discuss with folks they've become familiar with. Please shoot me a message if you're interested and/or savvy in Discord server creation/maintenance; any help would be great. Here's the link for those interested.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on [Primer] RG Ponza / Modern Land Destruction
    Since the site is shutting down, is there a Ponza discord or anything to continue following the deck discussion?
    Posted in: Midrange
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