@Sabinfrost, normally I'd recommend running 14 etb untapped G sources for powering out a first turn hierarch which will enable some super strong plays. Kitchen finks is good but I think it's probably the easiest cut to make here. Scooze is still incredibly strong vs the non-tron meta. Stirring wildwood is also fantastic against Grindy matchups but that's a meta call and tec edge is great vs combo.
@Moondemon, Brimaz is like any other flex spot in the deck. He's awesome in the right meta and less awesome in the wrong meta. If your meta is ur control decks then he's probably pretty good but less good vs bgx. Brimaz isn't terribly good in my meta at the moment because path to exile is everywhere but yours may be different.
@Ginko, I'd caution that dnt/hatebears isn't a deck that one can pick and be ready to play in a gp in a months time. The interactions are far more subtle and numerous than they appear. That's to say that dnt offers lots of room for the pilot to make mistakes and punishes those mistakes severely while similarly rewarding tight play.
@Minos engele, things that keep our bears alive vs bolt and serve as removal are good. It brings a lot to the table. I'll be picking up a set tonight.
Edited to add: This isn't to say that shoal belongs in every dnt/bears list but is a versatile tool that sures up two weaknesses while being tempo positive and card advantage neutral. This assumes that a bolt can be redirected at vulnerable creatures. It should be an all star against jund and burn.
@Steelersmidget, I also messed around with bant dnt for awhile and played a coco list. I'd strongly recommend against jumping into it without learning the base interactions of dnt or else they're going to do poorly and become frustrated.
I posted about it in October if you really need a list although the meta has since changed and I'd build it differently now.
I know that aven mindcensor has fallen out of favor for the past year but I think it may be in a better position at the moment. Tron is resurgent and valakut decks with prime titan and scapeshift are more popular than ever. I also think that flyers are more important now than they were even last minute month.
@Mr_bote, I'd forego the dark confidants in favor of something cheaper if I were just starting out and didn't know the deck all that well. The confidant slots are flexible and many things could fit. I think blade splicer is good at the moment.
@Mr_bote, eldrazi n taxes is still just a flavor of death n taxes. Ideas that are pertinent to straight white or even Wg are likely relevant to each other as opposed to bant eldrazi; which shares cards with both but is a very different deck.
I've played ent on a handful of occasions and didn't care for it. I found reality smasher to be a representative of the deck overall in that it's powerful but janky. This is due to the fact that smasher is five cmc. I don't think that 22 lands are enough to support that and it's likely to be stuck in your hand.
@Darktutor, your list seems to be all over the place. It looks like you're trying to jam flickerwisp into a wilt leaf package with hero of bladehold. As good as flickerwisp is it doesn't have any good value targets on your side. I also think your curve is too high as 14 three drops and 4 three drops seems a bit high even with 23 lands. I'm not a fan of 23 lands unless running a set of canopys and 3+ stirring wildwood. Finally, hierarchs are just better than birds.
@Fncmtg, bridge is a difficult card to deal with for most decks. EnT is no exception. I'd recommend cutting three smashers for a set of Thalia, sculler and flickerwisp as they interact with bridge whereas smasher does not.
In my experience kytheon was always very good for a mono white list as it was never a dead draw and can smooth out the dead spot as vial accumulates counters. Most opponents would assume it was a must kill card so our more valuable creatures would survive. Fwiw, that was a different time and meta.
I think you're underestimating renegade rallier as we run quite a few cards to enable revolt. Ghost quarter and selfless spirit have been spoken for but we also run tectonic edge, horizon canopy and qasali pridemage as well as burrenton forge-tender in the side.
Hey spiderspace is that you that he plays in his round 1? Either way he offers some very interesting observations when playing against 8 rack that may be worth a watch.
Came here to post this. This video provides good insight from the opposite side of the table. Thalia is backbreaking against so many decks.
My suggestions are:
-1 flagstones, +1 forest
-2/3 finks, +2/3 scooze
-0/2 tec edge, +0/2stirring wildwood
Edited to add: This isn't to say that shoal belongs in every dnt/bears list but is a versatile tool that sures up two weaknesses while being tempo positive and card advantage neutral. This assumes that a bolt can be redirected at vulnerable creatures. It should be an all star against jund and burn.
I posted about it in October if you really need a list although the meta has since changed and I'd build it differently now.
What do you think?
I've played ent on a handful of occasions and didn't care for it. I found reality smasher to be a representative of the deck overall in that it's powerful but janky. This is due to the fact that smasher is five cmc. I don't think that 22 lands are enough to support that and it's likely to be stuck in your hand.
Came here to post this. This video provides good insight from the opposite side of the table. Thalia is backbreaking against so many decks.