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  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    I will leave it at this. (In my opinion)

    DeCandio will be proven wrong over JTMS. Modern will absorb it and continue to be diverse/wide open and thrive until WotC prints something or unbans something to unbalance it from its current state.

    Enjoy the format folks, its pretty good right now, not perfect, but pretty good. Smile
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    Its hard to say he got lucky to get that far. Luck is needed to win any of these huge tournaments

    Really don't like the guy, he's going to write an obnoxious article


    All I said was that he had good luck in the final game and his opponent did not. But yes it does take a certain amount of luck to make it to the final 8 as well. It takes skill as well. I think the skill aspect gets drowned out by luck or variance quite a bit more than some people think. Many would argue that Todd Stevens is one of the most skilled players on the SCG tour. He didn't make top 8 while some "unknown" 15 year old that owns a single modern deck made it. It takes skill but luck/variance makes some players look better than they really may be.

    Frankly his winning actually disproves his stupid point on JTMS anyway. Someone will get lucky/variance enough with enough skill to beat the JTMS card/deck. Heck, Bogles pulled down a GP recently. Its an aspect of the game that I like. Without variance/luck you might as well play Chess.

    My contention is that DeCandio is young, cocky and loud-mouthed enough to think that a victory will justify his absurd earlier article and continue on with it. He needs a dose of Humble-Pie.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Packaging for Dominaria and M19
    Quote from Etherium Sage »
    Quote from pierrebai »
    First pack seem to be a coated guy, from Bolas' army of undeads.


    It's Karn. His body is darkened by the lighting, but it's him.

    It's also worth noting that he's holding a book.


    I noticed that as well. Thran Tome???
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Well, guess which whiny dingbat just pulled down SCG Indy with GDS. Frown Frown Frown

    I'm sure we'll get another article with more Modern hyperbole, either that he's solved the format and takes it all back, or that the post-unban metagame means that his recent success doesn't mean anything and the format is still dying.

    Also, it's crazy that players get better results when they play decent decks. Not like Mono G Devotion at a GP.


    Yep, now he will figure his blather is justified with his win and his head will swell as well. I saw a lot of luck on his side in that final game vs. ETron. His opponent drew poorly and mulliganed into poor hands as well while he basically had the nut draw Game one and close to it Game three.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    Well, guess which whiny dingbat just pulled down SCG Indy with GDS. Frown Frown Frown
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Colorless Eldrazi Tron
    Well Manges pulled a 2nd place with ETron losing to GDS. Boo!!!
    Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Colorless Eldrazi Tron
    2 copies of E-Tron in final 8 at SCG Indy. Smile
    Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Packaging for Dominaria and M19
    Quote from Etherium Sage »
    Quote from SBurani »
    KARN IS BACK !!!!!


    We've known that he'd be back for quite a while now. Same with Teferi.


    We have, but the artwork shown on the booster pack would indicate that we will see a new Karn card for sure. The artwork with Teferi, Jhoira and Karn was for the box art apparently and not a card per se.

    KARN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grin
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Mini Announcment day
    Quote from orlouge82 »
    Quote from SilverWolf_27 »
    Quote from Antiantiserum »
    We've also got a new partial artwork for Bolas on the Core 2019 product page: https://magic.wizards.com/en/products/core-2019

    And a look at the art book for Dominaria: https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/7xloim/dominaria_artbook_cover/

    How much sense does it make that the Chinese special decks would be only available in English?

    Someone really dropped the ball on Bolas here. He looks like a goblin with horns, not a godlike dragon planeswalker...


    Actually, he looks like Mohawk from Gremlins 2 with horns Laughing





    Dead ringer!!! Don't let Bolas get wet and don't feed him after midnight. Wink
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    I just wanted to get in on the DeCandio is a moron train. He's a moron. The definition of hyperbole should be linked to his grade school article.

    OK, I feel better. Wink
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on What does Wizards of the Coast need to do to improve magic the gathering?
    Quote from Kumlekar »
    1. Use better quality card stock.
    2. Use better quality foiling process.
    3. Reduce the MSRP of boosters to around $3.33 a pack.
    4. Reduce the MSRP of Masters boosters to $6.99 a pack.
    5. Print stronger cards in Standard.
    6. Do away with common foils in Masters packs. Only Uncommons and above.
    7. Find a better random packaging process of boosters that doesn't include tracking. (Rarities within a rarity)
    8. Make playable, reasonable value Event Decks.
    9. Give away occasional rares and Modern or Legacy promo cards at FNM.
    10. Listen to the consumer better. Engage us on sites like these.

    That's my top 10. I've got more. Wink

    This doesn't make business sense. Dropping MSRP is an awful idea. Drops to MSRP cut into the margins of stores that are distributing the product making the game less accessible. Many stores are already re-evaluating their relationship with wizards after the background check rules. The last thing wizards needs to do is chase more off. Magic has been stable in price per pack for years, and I'm sure printing costs are not going down. I would guess that the quality issues we've seen are a symptom of this. I sincerely doubt that wizards has much room in their margins to drop prices, especially with Hasbro breathing over their shoulders (if you don't know what I'm talking about read into why D&D 4th edition exists).

    As for number 5, card power is relative. We've don't need more powerful cards. Vanilla 1 mana 3/3's are more powerful, but I don't think anyone would claim that they would be healthy for the game. Instead what they've done with rivals of ixalan is much more interesting. We've seen spins on old powerful cards with the transform lands and some awesome mechanics with the "Exile, then cast for free" spell. Playing with new design spaces is much better than targeting a high card power level. We don't need another Jace the Mindscultor in standard. I do agree that we went through a pretty bad year with Battle for Zendikar and Shadows blocks. Power level was low, but the real issue was that the design space was so stagnant. The sets were basically ramp versus aggro without anything more than power/toughness to make cards interesting. Kaladesh was excellent even if the standard format wasn't fabulous. That block has a ton of cards that can get a boost into modern or legacy if new cards get printed to benefit them.

    6. For the love of god, no. Don't take away my pauper toys.
    10. I guarantee that not all consumers are saying the same things.


    Quote from draftguy2 »
    I suggest changing our card limit from 4 to 2. This will likely cut prices since demand will die down and spread out value in a block/set since more different cards must be used. This also maens your games will be mroe diferse and different with other play angles. You an no longer slot 4 of the best you can get 2 then need to pick which of the next two highest that are tried should be the next in your list.

    Honestly, I would probably quit, or just keep playing with 4 casually. I play magic to build consistent decks. I take a wacky idea, and the format restrictions, add on a few of my own, and then build the best, most consistent deck I can out of that. I have a number of friends that do the same. Moving from 10 cards per deck to 20 would be a massive change, and destroy many of the more interesting cards in the game. Also, this would kill burn strageties. Red could move to aggro or maybe sligh, but the color's power comes from draw consistency far more than others. Green breaks its consistency with ramp, blue and black compensate for silver bullets with card selection, only red or white really play the 4 copies of everything strategy often. Are those the colors that we really need to nerf?


    Dropping MSRP a bit hurts the bottom line of course. But possibly losing tens of thousands of players a year that don't then buy those packs hurts even worse. Its the same fallacy that happens all the time. Business loses money and customers, they raise prices to try to maintain cash flow, pushes more customers out, they raise prices again, pushes more out, rinse and repeat to insolvency. Happens in my area of the country all the time and the dunces never figure it out. Drop it slightly and you may see an increase in packs sold. I'm fine with them leaving the MSRP then if other areas would be addressed as I've stated. If I"m paying 4 bucks a pop or 10 bucks a pop I want at least some value on my investment, not a pack full of bulk.

    As for #6 you can still get foil pauper jank in Standard Sets and Conspiracy/Draft style sets. Foil commons make me want to puke 99% of the time I pull one and I'm sure I'm in the majority on this one.

    As for #10 you are correct. But they still need to listen TO THE CONSENSUS of players/voices out there. Ignoring your customer base is a recipe for disaster.

    As for #5 we need better cards period, more powerful can be subjective as well. When 95% of a set is useless in Constructed, there needs to be a change. No I'm not saying they all need to be bombs, but at least get that rate up.

    I am enjoying our discourse though, thanks for your rebuttals. Smile
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Mini Announcment day
    Quote from Velrun »
    About Signature Spellbook. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but nowhere in the release does it actually say that a Planeswalker card will be included does it? It says spells centered around a Planeswalker with a premium card included. These very well could be just 5 colors of spells with a Planeswalker plastered on the box with no Planeswalker included, much like the old Duels of the Planeswalkers decks that didn't include any walkers in the deck. Just a thought and again, correct me if I'm wrong.

    Signature Spellbook: Jace is a spiritual successor to the From the Vault series, but with a signature twist: each Signature Spellbook is themed around a Planeswalker and the spells that define who they are. Jace Beleren, fresh off having his memory restored on Ixalan, has plenty in his arsenal. Each Signature Spellbook will contain one premium foil and eight cards that fit with the Planeswalker's identity. They will have an MSRP of $19.99 (applies to the United States only), and you can get your hands on them starting June 15, 2018, in English only.


    It is strongly hinted that there will be a Jace walker, but look how ambiguous they phrase the whole thing. Makes me wonder.


    From the way they phrase the whole thing makes us believe it has a Walker in there.

    It says:

    “Each Signature Spellbook is themed around a Planeswalker and the spells that define who they are.”

    Note the ‘and’ which means it is both themed around a planeswalker and themed around the spells that define who they are.


    We are lead to believe as you say, but it in no way states that there will be one. It would be stupid if they didn't include a walker, but this is Wizards remember. Wink
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Mini Announcment day
    About Signature Spellbook. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but nowhere in the release does it actually say that a Planeswalker card will be included does it? It says spells centered around a Planeswalker with a premium card included. These very well could be just 5 colors of spells with a Planeswalker plastered on the box with no Planeswalker included, much like the old Duels of the Planeswalkers decks that didn't include any walkers in the deck. Just a thought and again, correct me if I'm wrong.

    Signature Spellbook: Jace is a spiritual successor to the From the Vault series, but with a signature twist: each Signature Spellbook is themed around a Planeswalker and the spells that define who they are. Jace Beleren, fresh off having his memory restored on Ixalan, has plenty in his arsenal. Each Signature Spellbook will contain one premium foil and eight cards that fit with the Planeswalker's identity. They will have an MSRP of $19.99 (applies to the United States only), and you can get your hands on them starting June 15, 2018, in English only.


    It is strongly hinted that there will be a Jace walker, but look how ambiguous they phrase the whole thing. Makes me wonder.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on What does Wizards of the Coast need to do to improve magic the gathering?
    Quote from draftguy2 »
    I am going to make a rather different suggestion, Alot has been said about design space, power of cards ect, However what about something that would both lower the price of cards AND increase deck versitilty?

    I suggest changing our card limit from 4 to 2. This will likely cut prices since demand will die down and spread out value in a block/set since more different cards must be used. This also maens your games will be mroe diferse and different with other play angles. You an no longer slot 4 of the best you can get 2 then need to pick which of the next two highest that are tried should be the next in your list.


    That is a radical departure from the current game and would change the game fundamentally on how it is played. I don't think many would be behind your suggestion. Interesting but 0% likely happening. It could open up a new format though, some sort of "Twosies" format, kind of like Commander but with up to 2 copies available. Again though, don't think there would be a lot of interest in it.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on What does Wizards of the Coast need to do to improve magic the gathering?
    Quote from draftguy2 »

    Variance that could be more under control by Wizards if they changed their collation/sorting of cards into packs for Masters sets. Iconic is a dumpster fire compared to the others. They can't continue in the fashion of IM, they need to load up the power/value more (ala MM1 2 and 3) in M25 or if they don't drop the price per pack, plain and simple.
    *shrug* I've provided the data about EV specifically. If you also have a problem with the variance, that's a different issue.

    Personally, I doubt that Iconic Masters or any Masters product has any effect on the "younger/newer players" demographic; they're not the target audience and are unlikely to be the primary consumers. (if we assume that commons/uncommns have no value and to most players they don't and the foils are valued at 0. ) Looking at just rares/mythics.

    The Masters edition seems to have followed a very natural course. The first Masters product was aggressively undercosted, as part of a first foray into a product space. They found out that it was way undercosted/overvalued, and they have been trimming the "fat" down to ensure it's a sustainable product line. They can continue to use the Masters edition as a "high variance" product line with normal sets as a "low variance" reference point. People who like high variance will continue to buy Masters, people who don't will not. Wizards is likely going to be fine with lots of players choosing to buy only a subset of the Magic product, and that should already be part of their overall business strategy.


    Thank you for posting the EV's that was quite helpful. However I feel that while average EV % is important, for the common player knowing the medum value is also important that would give a player a better idea of the value without the swimgy nature of uber mythic/draft garbage.


    Based on finding the math and some help from SCG the medium for eternal masters is only 2.24, a far cry from the $10 price.... This is assuming you only look at rares mythics and assune a don't countfoils. (which most players do,)


    I believe you are referring to the median value possibly? I could see the median value being 2.24 a pack for EM. I would expect the mean or average price to be higher as pricey cards skew the average upwards. And yes median would be far more indicative than mean(average) when discussing variance. Thanks. Smile
    Posted in: Magic General
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