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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Quote from Max Rebo »
    Probably can assume some more if this is the trend

    Noble Hierarch
    Cavern
    Lily
    Goyf
    Vamp Tutor
    Ensnaring Bridge
    Aether Vial
    Mana Drain
    etc.....etc.....etc.....

    Who knows?


    Quite a few people out there for quite some time that are not employees of WotC as evidenced by the emails shared in that video. (if legit) Your guesses are a possibility. The earlier ones listed are practically a given.
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Yes that is why I mentioned it. That and the 27 years and counting it is taking to reprint a sorely needed card in Pauper.
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Quote from m_pathogen »

    Its funny how they keep reprinting the expensive cards in expensive product and repeat year after year.


    Would be a lot more interesting if every reprint set would have reprints we did not have before.


    Those Urza Land reprints are *massively* overdue.


    Agreed. I have a feeling we are going to see Oubliette as well. About time right? 27 years in the making. Frown What they choose to reprint will never be enough in my estimation.
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Quote from Semoreh »
    So that was a great set with a poor distribution.
    But we are getting off tracks.


    Indeed we are. Wink Lets get back on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPZzZ4o7oxs

    Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    Karn Liberated
    Force of Will
    Mox Opal
    Thoughtseize
    Urza Lands

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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    but the set itself at the price it was intended to be sold (let's call it "theoretical msrp") was great.


    I have to disagree. Intended to be sold and price point it actually sold at were far different in my area. It may have been "great" for you. But it absolutely sucked for me. It should have been offered by big box stores at around a $6.99 "MSRP" and it would have been OK. After tax I am looking at around 10 bucks a pack at my LGS with a possible return of a lot of crap 25 cent rares. I won't do it. The reprints for some of these cards will not drop significantly enough with this type of distribution to benefit me as well. I'm glad it worked out for you, for me not even close.
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Because that's physical impossible everyone who plays eternal formats gets singles


    .....From someone else who has bought sealed product and paid Distributors that have paid WotC/Hasbro. You can't escape it unless you don't buy. Buying Secondary still supports WotC/Hasbro plain and simple albeit through levels/layers. Its like people who buy drugs from a local dealer and think they aren't supporting the huge illegal drug cartels and illegal drug makers. They are. Same applies here.

    As I've said, I'm guilty of it. But I try to buy what I think I want/need to play, knowing I still support WotC with my money.

    If people played Unglued draft, people will played anything draft.


    I imagine drafters sitting down at the breakfast table drafting Lucky Charms cereal, or opening a bag of Potato Chips and drafting single chips with their friends. Just a weird mental image I get. Nothing against drafters here.

    Am I the only one who can not refrain from comparing new products to Mystery Boosters? This was a reprint set done right, with apparently a great limited environment, reasonable booster price, etc...


    Since this set wasn't released at box stores. My LGS hoarded them, asked for 8 to 9 dollars a pack, even for the free boxes they got. Reprints were good but they did not get into the hands of people like you and me, so that is a total fail in my opinion in that aspect.
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Actually you need to take that a step further and not buy the cards at all. If you buy singles from the secondary market, WotC/Hasbro has already made their money selling them to someone else who has paid for them and opened them. Buying singles doesn't somehow magically take money away from WotC. It doesn't matter how many levels down the chain you are, when you purchase a card you have enabled the producer. Every player in the world could stop buying sealed product and WotC would still sell to distributors/online sellers/LGS and make money (albeit greatly less). Those distributors/online/LGS would open and sell singles then, prices for singles would go up due to the work involved opening them.

    Hey, I buy a lot of singles, I'm not above it for sure. Its got to take a buttload more individuals with fiscal discipline to change how it all works right now.
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Why on earth would you want them to stop making the drafts fun?


    How on Earth did you derive that from my post? Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Every release does not need to be draftable. You have been conditioned to think every set needs to be draftable because WotC has done this for 25 plus years. You have a myriad of sets to draft from, ALL OF THEM. Some of us are asking for a set that focuses on reprinting wanted and needed cards in far greater amounts than the usual built for draft first/reprint second. (Kill the Draft chaff and include CONSTRUCTED only centric cards) Then NOT sponsoring it as a draft set. That simple. So I will ask, Why does EVERY "special" set and release HAVE to be draftable?

    See post #78 above for an example.
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product

    I agree, when have they EVER done a set just for reprints and forgot about Draft? Chronicles? They aren't concerned with getting us these cards we would like to have and they are totally in tune with the secondary market manipulators. Same old same old. Frown


    I think it really was Chronicles as the last reprint set that didn't focus on draft, because it was the set that caused card prices to fall sharply at the time and prompted Wizards to establish the Reserve List policy. I can't find the history, but you can probably state that when the limited draft format was officially established, that's when draft booster sets came into focus.


    I was there when Chronicles released. I bought many packs hoping for stuff like the Power Nine or other powerful cards from ABU/Antiquities/Arbian Nights/Legends. We bought a lot of this stuff blind at the time/pre internet and info from Magazines like The Duelist. Those cards weren't there in Chronicles and it really didn't lower the price of the "good stuff" at the time. I got in around April of 94 and the supply of ABU/Antiquites/AN?Legends had dried up, they were gone. There was still a trickle of The Dark out but even then the prices of those packs were shooting up into the 5 to 10 plus dollar range. Prices of the Power9, other strong cards and dual lands didn't move down, they moved up. Jank like Elder Dragons and high cmc Legends dropped, but they were just that, jank. Its not 1994 any more, WotC needs to print a dedicated (NON draft) reprint set with cards that need reprints due to heavy play and fringe cards that have never had a single reprint whose values are high because of low supply. Of course this won't happen with how they run things. Frown
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Quote from Jiyor »
    And they still refuse to just make it a set to get the needed cards people want. Nope it sell has to be a draft set. Stop making everything draft WotC! Every f-ing set doesn’t need to be draft. Stop doing that for reprint focused sets....just f-ing stop!


    I agree, when have they EVER done a set just for reprints and forgot about Draft? Chronicles? They aren't concerned with getting us these cards we would like to have and they are totally in tune with the secondary market manipulators. Same old same old. Frown
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Quote from Borealis »
    attachment has the price listings for preorder on Amazon.


    Thanks for sharing, but as I thought, too much greed for me to give them any money for these. Every rare and mythic in the set would have to be a guaranteed 5 dollars and up for me to pay 12 to 16 dollars a pack. We know that never happens. More product for the whales.
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Quote from Xcric »
    ah, trotting out the mana crypt to make the set sell. classic.

    my wallet is so fatigued by these product releases i don't even care about this one. its just nonstop bombardment now. there needs to be breathing room.


    Try what I do, just don't buy their stuff I don't want. I haven't spent 1 cent on any of the 3 sets of Collector's Boosters ripoffs, haven't spent 1 cent on the Secret Lair Drop junk. I don't play Commander so not one red cent spent on those. Not a penny on Mystery Boosters and I will probably pass on JumpStart. I won't squander money on junk I perceive as crap. Works well for me at least. Smile
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    Quote from JestersTear »
    No "collector" packs, this time it's "VIP" packs.



    I'm betting on $50 a pack.


    Yep, I'm guessing VIP stands for Vastly Increased Pricing. Wink
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  • posted a message on Double Masters 2XM New reprint product
    I do like the alternate artwork Blightsteel Colossus though. Looks nice and not "too cartoony".
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  • posted a message on Banned and restricted announcement (offical announcement)
    There's 0 chance it'll be a random card or have the companion put into hand.


    It would depend on risk-reward. I think many players would do that right now for Lurrus in Pioneer/Modern (and probably would still in Legacy/Vintage). For most of the Companions it would be a no, that is why they would have to be strong enough for this "gamble". As it stands right now the risk is near ZERO and the reward is a protected guaranteed 8th card in hand for a minor deck building restriction. I am of the thought of reducing variance needs to come with an increasing variance clause. There may be a happy medium, but for now we just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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