There's reasons why Audinho wouldn't have used his ability as scum but I think with Cythare giving that evidence I'd like to see Id be the flip of the day.
Unvote, Vote: Id_Ego
Since you replaced, you might not have realized the part where you have to type who you are unvoting for it to count. Technically, according to the rules, you are still voting audino.
I've been operating under the assumption that the first eye grants day talk (and maybe even mroe than that) ever since SF got lynched. I said "Guess we were wrong" because it had been discussed earlier that there was no way a daytalk would be possible. I was using the perverbial "we," meaning the town. I actually had no part in that converstion.
I have never said daytalk was not possible, and have always thought it could be, especially after that eye dropped.
Jd, why do you not think this "coaching" would note have been done in scum chat instead of in public?
Also, for the sake of the town, I propose no one gets a determination ability. with one scum left, his ability likely won't matter if it's compassion or knowledge.
Well I can't say i'm not upset about not gettin an ability tonight either... and since it's compassion It might have been soemthing good for the town... but I guess I'm okay with it.
But, one thing we should consider on Audino is maybe his ability is public (it is gratning a pardon after all), and therefore he couldn't use it on his scum buddy without showing himself as scum as well...
As far as the NK debate goes, from experience, any one of the scum could do it... but we don't actually know if they can do the NK and get an ability.
Personally, I think the obv scum would do it, since no one would track/investigate them, and it leaves their buddies free and clear if they get tracked. Just my thoughts on the matter.
@Cythare: Why the sudden change in vote? today you posted that you were unsure on me and that you thought audino was scummy. did my triple post really change your opin ion that much?
also... no my ability wasn't granted sadly. Not that it would help too much right now...
OOOOHHHHH I got confused and thought PF was the one who got redirected and ousted him... okay then... but still...
I personally think there IS a day talk. Because, if each eye has a certain power, there definitely could be, and probably is day talk until we lynch the scum with that eye (which is what I meant by being wrong about day talk). So with that in mind, I definitely see Void as scum given what has transpired.
EBWOP: Pray Clotto
and again... I'll sit on my vote, making sure we don't rush it... but yes, Iso would have gotten to use his ability on night 1.... but wait, didn't he think void was scum on day 1? or was he still on that on day 2? gonna read through to find out
I don't recall London being bombed durin WWII and WWII was my favorite part from History.
... that's like the only thing i remember about european WW2 other than storming of normandy (i focused mainly on Japan, with a lil into africa/mid east and russia)
Anywho... that point aside... While i agree on the void vote I'm gonna go back and make sure it was possible for Iso's ability to go off.
Also, since it was asked, I feel the best defense is one put up right away, rather than after anyone tries to get a train behind them. Also, I fealt it could have been a scum gambit that would lead to a different lynch, and a NK of the doc... but, that of course would have meant that SF was town and PF/WG was scum... glad it turned out otherwise.
Also, guess we were wrong about the Daytalk thing eh?
So... your basis for the reasoning behind your arguement is that both myself and Ipot hadn't realized the game had started? so we are scum buddies because I got a message from the mod reminding that the game started, and ipot likely got the same reminder message?
Let me ask you wheat: what is the point of 2/3 of the scum not starting the game until the mod prods them?
And now on to your PBP: @174... because I had not realized the game had started, and posted without reading the entire thread... AS WAS STATED IN THAT POST! I did a small RVS because I had just gotten started and had missed the RVS. It has happened in the mafia games I've played and read... if you're late, post a small RVS, then move on... Also, why do you not understand the use of elipses? you obviously understand what they are and therefore know what they are used for. Although, I guess I use them more than other people...
@237.... you mean like 215? or even 237 itself where I gave my read on shark? Maybe you missed this post (actually I know you didn't, but you didn't put much reading into all of it, because all you focussed on was the fact I RVSed... after starting the game late... and... using elipses...?)
Here it is again:
teeheeheeheehee stop poking me. Pray Aisa FOS shark
/end random stage
Okay... so I am caught up form the last 2 pages but I ahven't gone back to the first page and come all the way up yet... I usually don't liek day 1, because it's alot of pointing fingers, defending yourself because someone is pointing a finger at you, and then finally lynching someone because they defended themselves... or didn't... or just because we need to lynch someone... Case in point... I have no vote right now... off to read more
I DO NOT LIKE DAY ONE!!!!! I was gathering my reads on people as they posted, and was waiting for an apporpriate time to divulge them. excuse me for not chiming in earlier, when every single thing i said could be misconstrude and lead to a N1 lynch (like it did in LFD.... i think it was LFD).
Anywho... rants aside..
@237 never said I thought shark was town. I said he was playing conservatively, a townish kind of conservative. At that point I was actually thinking it could have been a ruse, the day 2 no claim on his ability just gave substance to that feeling.
@268 Again, failure to read allow me to quote:
[QUOTE=Id_Ego;/comments/10856072]Okay then... I see your point, I shall reread to formulate a real opinion on the 2 in question...
While I do that, I'd like to pose a question: does anyone else find it odd that PF has stated that he knows one god is scummy? and that he knows what one ability could do? was anyone else given aditional information in their role PM?
Anyone else find it odd?[/QUOTE]
Wait just a second.... What just happened here? let's see... first I'll bold one part: the Reread was for opinion on the 2 in question (. now let me bold another part.WHAT IS THIS? me throwing out a provocative question that basically states that PF should not have the extra information he is claming? oh wait... read over it because that's what you did... so yes, still no conetent from me right? /soapbox
@274 Really? not a fan of me having suspicions on a few people and not a whole lot to go on from others? So... you don't like my list? of people I was supicious of? on day freaking 1? (/rant) Well, did you like any of the other people's lists on day 1?
Oh... and should we overlook the fact that you are replacing PF, and therefore you were on that list? And still are... depending on how the night goes, but now I'm not quite sure...
So, allow me to state what your "arguement" against me consists of according to your PBP:
1. I did not know the game had started,
2. I did a RVS (even tho ISO said not to... oh wait, that was before I read that part)
3. I use elipses...
4. I didn't post alot of content... because, as stated, I hate day 1.
5. I did a full reread focussing in on iPot and and greymon
6. you don't read all of my posts and only take tiny bits of information to try to make me look scummy... the only problem with this is that usually the same information you are looking for is in the same freaking post
7. You didn't like my scum read (OF DAY ONE!!!!!! /rant), which YOU were a part of.
8. I didn't post much day 2... wait, what was there to post about? how we all agreed that SF is scum?
9. I didn't post last night, even though I was online! wow, this one's got me pegged! I didn't post because I went to the forums and found out that: you had replaced PF, and: there had been quite a bit of activity. so... I decided I wasn't going to deal with all that with a sleepy mind, and went to sleep.
10. You obviously didn't read (shocking) where I pointed out that Ipot was my scum of the week... but I'm obviously in league with him because we were both late to the game. and void... for no reason.
Vote count (please)
IIRC I'm wasn't voting SF yet, but if I were, I'd remove my vote now. Because I'm suddenly seeing the links between 2 players (and posibly a third). Yes, WG is one of them. I still don't like the fact that he didn't come out and say that he got an ability... but I actually do see a reason for doing so possibly, maybe.... probably not.
So... I have a question for you Mr. WG... since we are the types who are asking questions... and I DO expect you to answer...
Why did PF "Know" that there was a scum god? (and, yes he used the word KNOW and did not back down from it.) Obviously, you have the same information he has... being his replacement.
Ok are we claiming whether are prayers are granted or not?
Worship Aisa
We should try sort out the prayers as early as possible so the focus of the day can be hunting. With 10 alive we want even splits again to maximise abilities gained, 5 in total.
@Iso: I'm intrigued to hear exactly why you have me as scum.
Though based on your play at the end of D1, I can see you were setting a lynch on me there.
You mentioned earlier that I was probable scumbuddy with greymon, yet you still pursue me.
I definitely want to do a PBPA next time I get the chance (early morning)
Iso and pf, since Iso is defending him strongly. Could be buddying or defending scumbuddy so this interaction will be important for the analysis of this game.
And in response to Iso claiming he was scum....
So... shark, why then did you decide to not let anyone know that your power went off right away? seems like scum behavior to me.
Since you replaced, you might not have realized the part where you have to type who you are unvoting for it to count. Technically, according to the rules, you are still voting audino.
I have never said daytalk was not possible, and have always thought it could be, especially after that eye dropped.
Also, for the sake of the town, I propose no one gets a determination ability. with one scum left, his ability likely won't matter if it's compassion or knowledge.
But, one thing we should consider on Audino is maybe his ability is public (it is gratning a pardon after all), and therefore he couldn't use it on his scum buddy without showing himself as scum as well...
As far as the NK debate goes, from experience, any one of the scum could do it... but we don't actually know if they can do the NK and get an ability.
Personally, I think the obv scum would do it, since no one would track/investigate them, and it leaves their buddies free and clear if they get tracked. Just my thoughts on the matter.
@Cythare: Why the sudden change in vote? today you posted that you were unsure on me and that you thought audino was scummy. did my triple post really change your opin ion that much?
also... no my ability wasn't granted sadly. Not that it would help too much right now...
I personally think there IS a day talk. Because, if each eye has a certain power, there definitely could be, and probably is day talk until we lynch the scum with that eye (which is what I meant by being wrong about day talk). So with that in mind, I definitely see Void as scum given what has transpired.
For those who are wondering. all in a row too... so definitely void is the clear vote.
and again... I'll sit on my vote, making sure we don't rush it... but yes, Iso would have gotten to use his ability on night 1.... but wait, didn't he think void was scum on day 1? or was he still on that on day 2? gonna read through to find out
... that's like the only thing i remember about european WW2 other than storming of normandy (i focused mainly on Japan, with a lil into africa/mid east and russia)
Anywho... that point aside... While i agree on the void vote I'm gonna go back and make sure it was possible for Iso's ability to go off.
Also, since it was asked, I feel the best defense is one put up right away, rather than after anyone tries to get a train behind them. Also, I fealt it could have been a scum gambit that would lead to a different lynch, and a NK of the doc... but, that of course would have meant that SF was town and PF/WG was scum... glad it turned out otherwise.
Also, guess we were wrong about the Daytalk thing eh?
apologieze for not putting line breaks bewteen some lines.
Let me ask you wheat: what is the point of 2/3 of the scum not starting the game until the mod prods them?
And now on to your PBP: @174... because I had not realized the game had started, and posted without reading the entire thread... AS WAS STATED IN THAT POST! I did a small RVS because I had just gotten started and had missed the RVS. It has happened in the mafia games I've played and read... if you're late, post a small RVS, then move on... Also, why do you not understand the use of elipses? you obviously understand what they are and therefore know what they are used for. Although, I guess I use them more than other people...
@237.... you mean like 215? or even 237 itself where I gave my read on shark? Maybe you missed this post (actually I know you didn't, but you didn't put much reading into all of it, because all you focussed on was the fact I RVSed... after starting the game late... and... using elipses...?)
Here it is again:
I DO NOT LIKE DAY ONE!!!!! I was gathering my reads on people as they posted, and was waiting for an apporpriate time to divulge them. excuse me for not chiming in earlier, when every single thing i said could be misconstrude and lead to a N1 lynch (like it did in LFD.... i think it was LFD).
Anywho... rants aside..
@237 never said I thought shark was town. I said he was playing conservatively, a townish kind of conservative. At that point I was actually thinking it could have been a ruse, the day 2 no claim on his ability just gave substance to that feeling.
@268 Again, failure to read allow me to quote:
[QUOTE=Id_Ego;/comments/10856072]Okay then... I see your point, I shall reread to formulate a real opinion on the 2 in question...
While I do that, I'd like to pose a question: does anyone else find it odd that PF has stated that he knows one god is scummy? and that he knows what one ability could do? was anyone else given aditional information in their role PM?
Anyone else find it odd?[/QUOTE]
Wait just a second.... What just happened here? let's see... first I'll bold one part: the Reread was for opinion on the 2 in question (. now let me bold another part.WHAT IS THIS? me throwing out a provocative question that basically states that PF should not have the extra information he is claming? oh wait... read over it because that's what you did... so yes, still no conetent from me right? /soapbox
@274 Really? not a fan of me having suspicions on a few people and not a whole lot to go on from others? So... you don't like my list? of people I was supicious of? on day freaking 1? (/rant) Well, did you like any of the other people's lists on day 1?
Oh... and should we overlook the fact that you are replacing PF, and therefore you were on that list? And still are... depending on how the night goes, but now I'm not quite sure...
So, allow me to state what your "arguement" against me consists of according to your PBP:
1. I did not know the game had started,
2. I did a RVS (even tho ISO said not to... oh wait, that was before I read that part)
3. I use elipses...
4. I didn't post alot of content... because, as stated, I hate day 1.
5. I did a full reread focussing in on iPot and and greymon
6. you don't read all of my posts and only take tiny bits of information to try to make me look scummy... the only problem with this is that usually the same information you are looking for is in the same freaking post
7. You didn't like my scum read (OF DAY ONE!!!!!! /rant), which YOU were a part of.
8. I didn't post much day 2... wait, what was there to post about? how we all agreed that SF is scum?
9. I didn't post last night, even though I was online! wow, this one's got me pegged! I didn't post because I went to the forums and found out that: you had replaced PF, and: there had been quite a bit of activity. so... I decided I wasn't going to deal with all that with a sleepy mind, and went to sleep.
10. You obviously didn't read (shocking) where I pointed out that Ipot was my scum of the week... but I'm obviously in league with him because we were both late to the game. and void... for no reason.
Vote count (please)
IIRC I'm wasn't voting SF yet, but if I were, I'd remove my vote now. Because I'm suddenly seeing the links between 2 players (and posibly a third). Yes, WG is one of them. I still don't like the fact that he didn't come out and say that he got an ability... but I actually do see a reason for doing so possibly, maybe.... probably not.
So... I have a question for you Mr. WG... since we are the types who are asking questions... and I DO expect you to answer...
Why did PF "Know" that there was a scum god? (and, yes he used the word KNOW and did not back down from it.) Obviously, you have the same information he has... being his replacement.
This was in response to the above post
And in response to Iso claiming he was scum....
So... shark, why then did you decide to not let anyone know that your power went off right away? seems like scum behavior to me.