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  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    I mean, while its true Hoogak didn't have extreme numbers dont forget people were outrageously prepared for it. We're talking like 7-9 hate pieces in a bunch of decks, this by no means reliquenishes Hoogak being problematic.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Modern looking really healthy outside of that mess of a deck. It should still be banned but im impressed by the format diversity minus that deck.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    I mean, Phoenix is definitely a quiet offender. It had fantastic results at the MC tournament, but due to limited I don't think Phoenix was properly represented.


    I very much think faithless looting is becoming an issue for modern and could go down the road of Probe. No, faithless looting is not to nerf Hoogak decks, it's an overall meta health issue.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Haha, Hoogak swings for 17 on turn 2 against burn, and Reid Duke on commentary says that wasn't even the best hand.


    This is definitely worthy of an emergency ban.

    I don't even know what should be banned, I think it'll honestly take both pieces of something.

    Hoogak was an extremely horribly designed mistake, and they printed this for modern so there's no excuse to say it slipped their radar.

    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    I made out like a bandit for the foils I needed

    2x foil Wrenns for 90 a piece, 2x non foil for low 20's, 2x foil Plague Engineers for 6 a piece, 2x Collector Ouphe foils for 14 a piece, 4x Seasoned Pyromancer for 45 a piece.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    I think hoogak will be banned in order to avoid eldrazi winter on camera at an MC. Unless it completely flops this coming weekend in results.

    The deck is broken. I dont need more convincing. This isnt some cute plays with shadow or Phoenix. The deck is very much busted. You stick s leyline or jailer or 100 percent lose. Reid Duke on camera last night had no issues facing fast decks with it for a turn 3 win.

    Deck is getting banned, let's not do this foolishness again, we all said to give eldrazi a chance for data collection. This is easily a tier 0 deck. Ban it. Its not healthy to see 8 or 9 gy hate in people's 75.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Jund
    We're all up in the discord channel, join us, man
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    By the way, right now Jund isn’t even a competitive Magic deck.


    If I'm going to prioritize a main deck card, I would prefer Veto or Pierce. I think both of those are better and more versatile than Force. Seems fine in the side, but far from "modern's saving grace on a pedestal" that people make it out to be. I didn't realize that was so damn controversial.


    Let’s keep it at facts. Facts say that Dovin’s Veto is the less versatile between the cards you mentioned, cause it has a fringe application only against Ux based strategies. You know what stops people from doing unfair things in Modern? A cc 0 Force of Negation.




    Why do you say that? Jund has been fantastic from the new set. Wrenn is very much the real deal. Seasoned Pyromancer is huge value. BBE has been cut down to 2, some are debating on 0. Jund's actually feeling better than it has in a very long time.

    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Death's Shadow Jund
    Good job. Any of the new cards interest you in Jund shadow?
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    While I'm not demanding a ban for this new deck, I think it's extremely problematic that the format feels it needs to run 4x Leylines and 2x other pieces of grave hate in the main or side to beat Bridgevine. Like, even if this is what it takes to hate the deck out, that says a lot. It kinda seems like a systemic issue with the format, too.

    Could and will this deck be hated out? Sure. Does this mean the moment you switch off Leyline/RIP and just down to 3 to 4 gy hate that you'll lose a tournament to a Vine deck? This isn't healthy.

    WOTC needs to think of a creative way to deal with grave decks.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    I dont think hookarg was a very healthy card to create by concept. It begs to be broken.

    Maybe a few months of leyline with London mulls will help bridgevine to go down.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Yeah, who thought Narset would be the star of the set. No one blinked an eye when she was spoiled. Definitely missed that boat. She's being played in all major formats.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Urza is a broken EDH commander.


    Sigh, this set is going to rob me of money. I plan to buy 4x foil Seasoned Pyromancers, 2x Foil Wrenns and 3x Foil Unearth.

    I don't usually have to really update foil Jund stuff in most sets, and most aren't mythic rates.
    I feel like Wrenn looks SO good and very underestimated. It's 2 mana for a grim lavamancer stapled with CA and an amazing ult.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Quote from idSurge »
    I'm glad Sam is no longer with Wizards.

    "The cards where we are wrong and that ended up much more powerful than we had expected are some of the most iconic cards from the last decade—Primeval Titan; Jace, the Mind Sculptor; Stoneforge Mystic; Bitterblossom; Bridge from Below; Tarmogoyf; etc. These cards are not always the most fun to play with or against, and we have subsequently had to ban them from some formats, but the cards still exist in the same form they did when we printed them."

    Prime Time - Fine in Modern.
    Jace - Fine in Modern
    Bitterblossom - Not Good in Modern.
    Bridge - Not Good in Modern.
    Goyf - Fatal Pushed in Modern.

    If thats the metric, SFM comes off next announcement.


    Dude, they're not unbanning SFM. UW being this good makes WOTC too hesitant to do so. SFM will be banned for several more years, they've made this very clear, whether you agree with their logic or not
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    MTG got WAY better with Sam gone. Standard was a hot garbage mess for years thanks to him.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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